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	<title>Comments on: The Google Phone will be free</title>
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		<title>By: Cos</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2009/11/the-google-phone-will-be-free/#comment-63324</link>
		<dc:creator>Cos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a difference between giving out free software and free hardware. Hardware has a huge per unit cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a difference between giving out free software and free hardware. Hardware has a huge per unit cost.</p>
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		<title>By: hazydave</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2009/11/the-google-phone-will-be-free/#comment-63299</link>
		<dc:creator>hazydave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could believe that, if they&#039;re doing this (still a big IF), they could make a Wifi/VoIP phone only... that would work. Not like current phones, though... things like Google Navigator currently depend on a permanent wireless network. 

So, the real question is, what about that? Google doesn&#039;t own a wireless network... there are four of them that more or less cover the USA: Verizon, Sprint, AT&amp;T, and T-Mobile... and that&#039;s very much &quot;more or less&quot;. 

Google is a partner in Clear, the company donig WiMax nationally (includes Sprint, Comcast, Intel, and a few others). They&#039;re now delivering spotty but high speed coverage in five or so cities. That&#039;s not a general answer, either. 

They could hook up with a mobile carrier and pay the connection fees themselves. But why would any mobile carrier help them advance the inevitable move to an all-IP network... not as long as they&#039;re still nickel, dime, and dollaring you for voice and text minutes. That&#039;s prime real-estate... a 1200 minute monthly phone plan is only going to run you about 100MB of total potential data traffic. This pretty much proves that any &quot;unlimited&quot; plan could easily move voice to data, only, that would take money out of the wireless companies pockets and boost their 3G traffic.

They really don&#039;t want that to happen until 4G... particularly if they have spotty 3G coverage (Verizon is universal 3G, though it&#039;s slower than AT&amp;T&#039;s best verison, and like anyone else, you&#039;ll get bumped to EDGE if you&#039;re too far away or there&#039;s too much other 3G traffic). AT&amp;T is about 20% 3G, but roughly the same 2G coverage. Sprint has less overall coverage, and T-Mobile less still, with a small percentage of that being 3G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could believe that, if they&#8217;re doing this (still a big IF), they could make a Wifi/VoIP phone only&#8230; that would work. Not like current phones, though&#8230; things like Google Navigator currently depend on a permanent wireless network. </p>
<p>So, the real question is, what about that? Google doesn&#8217;t own a wireless network&#8230; there are four of them that more or less cover the USA: Verizon, Sprint, AT&amp;T, and T-Mobile&#8230; and that&#8217;s very much &#8220;more or less&#8221;. </p>
<p>Google is a partner in Clear, the company donig WiMax nationally (includes Sprint, Comcast, Intel, and a few others). They&#8217;re now delivering spotty but high speed coverage in five or so cities. That&#8217;s not a general answer, either. </p>
<p>They could hook up with a mobile carrier and pay the connection fees themselves. But why would any mobile carrier help them advance the inevitable move to an all-IP network&#8230; not as long as they&#8217;re still nickel, dime, and dollaring you for voice and text minutes. That&#8217;s prime real-estate&#8230; a 1200 minute monthly phone plan is only going to run you about 100MB of total potential data traffic. This pretty much proves that any &#8220;unlimited&#8221; plan could easily move voice to data, only, that would take money out of the wireless companies pockets and boost their 3G traffic.</p>
<p>They really don&#8217;t want that to happen until 4G&#8230; particularly if they have spotty 3G coverage (Verizon is universal 3G, though it&#8217;s slower than AT&amp;T&#8217;s best verison, and like anyone else, you&#8217;ll get bumped to EDGE if you&#8217;re too far away or there&#8217;s too much other 3G traffic). AT&amp;T is about 20% 3G, but roughly the same 2G coverage. Sprint has less overall coverage, and T-Mobile less still, with a small percentage of that being 3G.</p>
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		<title>By: bc</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2009/11/the-google-phone-will-be-free/#comment-63298</link>
		<dc:creator>bc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly hope this is true. A &quot;Free Google Phone&quot; was a rumor for quite some time now, but always poo-pooed as ridiculous. The article and comments above lay out a very convincing argument for just such a thing.

And boy am I glad that I let my Verizon contract run out earlier this year. I let it lapse and went with a month-to-month plan. 

I need a new phone. Hello, Google!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly hope this is true. A &#8220;Free Google Phone&#8221; was a rumor for quite some time now, but always poo-pooed as ridiculous. The article and comments above lay out a very convincing argument for just such a thing.</p>
<p>And boy am I glad that I let my Verizon contract run out earlier this year. I let it lapse and went with a month-to-month plan. </p>
<p>I need a new phone. Hello, Google!</p>
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		<title>By: 1977twenty3</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2009/11/the-google-phone-will-be-free/#comment-63293</link>
		<dc:creator>1977twenty3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 06:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google as Robin Hood makes me root for a company for the first time.  It kinda creeps me out that all my digital communication can be seen by them, but I guess it&#039;s better to have it all centralized to one company that seems to have my best interests in mind (FREE).  I guess the real concern is, &quot;Who really is Google?&quot;  In the meantime I will trust them, primarily because at the moment I&#039;m not running any secret cells or underground political conquests.

Valkyrie Ice, the thought of Google putting the wireless phone companies out of business at the expense of business (via advert dollars) blows my mind with excitement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google as Robin Hood makes me root for a company for the first time.  It kinda creeps me out that all my digital communication can be seen by them, but I guess it&#8217;s better to have it all centralized to one company that seems to have my best interests in mind (FREE).  I guess the real concern is, &#8220;Who really is Google?&#8221;  In the meantime I will trust them, primarily because at the moment I&#8217;m not running any secret cells or underground political conquests.</p>
<p>Valkyrie Ice, the thought of Google putting the wireless phone companies out of business at the expense of business (via advert dollars) blows my mind with excitement.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2009/11/the-google-phone-will-be-free/#comment-63259</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like a bit more airspace would be needed for the long term to make it really work, for everyone.</description>
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		<title>By: Valkyrie Ice</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2009/11/the-google-phone-will-be-free/#comment-63253</link>
		<dc:creator>Valkyrie Ice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if it has occurred to anyone that telco&#039;s are completely unnecessary?

If some bright designers got together, built a wireless system that not only connects to any available network but to any other nearby available wireless device, be it smartphone, laptop, desktop or whatever, using it as a ad hoc network connection and potential routing hub, it seems like it should be quite possible to build a nationwide network that has absolutely no dependence on the telco&#039;s good graces to connect, enabling smartphones to bypass the cell tower grid and get reception anywhere by simply connecting to the nearest other device like the internet does.

With the increasing number of smartphones, netbooks, and the upcoming tablets available, most cities should be saturated with enough potential nodes to provide a connection anywhere within it, regardless of whether there is a tower nearby or not.  Especially bad reception cities like San Francisco would benefit enormously from such a system, no?

And you could basically tell the telco&#039;s to shove it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if it has occurred to anyone that telco&#8217;s are completely unnecessary?</p>
<p>If some bright designers got together, built a wireless system that not only connects to any available network but to any other nearby available wireless device, be it smartphone, laptop, desktop or whatever, using it as a ad hoc network connection and potential routing hub, it seems like it should be quite possible to build a nationwide network that has absolutely no dependence on the telco&#8217;s good graces to connect, enabling smartphones to bypass the cell tower grid and get reception anywhere by simply connecting to the nearest other device like the internet does.</p>
<p>With the increasing number of smartphones, netbooks, and the upcoming tablets available, most cities should be saturated with enough potential nodes to provide a connection anywhere within it, regardless of whether there is a tower nearby or not.  Especially bad reception cities like San Francisco would benefit enormously from such a system, no?</p>
<p>And you could basically tell the telco&#8217;s to shove it.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2009/11/the-google-phone-will-be-free/#comment-63251</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been trying to explain this to my shortsighted colleagues for years. We may not understand everything Google does when they do it, but there&#039;s always a purpose. I&#039;ve been waiting for it for years. Its finally happening and I&#039;ve been able to watch it all unfold. If only more entities would take responsibility, and look more toward the future instead of the buck today, we&#039;d all be much better off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been trying to explain this to my shortsighted colleagues for years. We may not understand everything Google does when they do it, but there&#8217;s always a purpose. I&#8217;ve been waiting for it for years. Its finally happening and I&#8217;ve been able to watch it all unfold. If only more entities would take responsibility, and look more toward the future instead of the buck today, we&#8217;d all be much better off.</p>
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		<title>By: iPod Touch vs. iPod Touch? &#171; iPodxpert</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2009/11/the-google-phone-will-be-free/#comment-63249</link>
		<dc:creator>iPod Touch vs. iPod Touch? &#171; iPodxpert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] applications opened at the same time (maybe VOIP/SIP) and since the announcement of a future Google Phone this iPod Touch will need to be able to connect not only to WiFi but  to a wider area wireless [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] applications opened at the same time (maybe VOIP/SIP) and since the announcement of a future Google Phone this iPod Touch will need to be able to connect not only to WiFi but  to a wider area wireless [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2009/11/the-google-phone-will-be-free/#comment-63218</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valkyrie- Thanks for reading and responding. I think people spend far too much time talking about the placement of buttons or other minutiae of device construction, since the innovation in phones will soon level off (like, say, laptops), if it hasn&#039;t already. If Google&#039;s going to do something truly disruptive in this space, it will be on the service side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valkyrie- Thanks for reading and responding. I think people spend far too much time talking about the placement of buttons or other minutiae of device construction, since the innovation in phones will soon level off (like, say, laptops), if it hasn&#8217;t already. If Google&#8217;s going to do something truly disruptive in this space, it will be on the service side.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony C</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2009/11/the-google-phone-will-be-free/#comment-63208</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valkyrie Ice you are so right!!  I agree 110% I want one now, and would even sacrafice not having WiFI everywhere, jsut to get rid of my cash cow phone!  Screw At&amp;T and Verizon they can suck it down !!!  HAHA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valkyrie Ice you are so right!!  I agree 110% I want one now, and would even sacrafice not having WiFI everywhere, jsut to get rid of my cash cow phone!  Screw At&amp;T and Verizon they can suck it down !!!  HAHA</p>
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