Comments on: Apple Drops nVidia from New Mac Pros to Snub Adobe

By: webo

webo — Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:34:57 +0000

Today Apple is producing / developinig / offering just TOYS instead of TOOLS :(

By: SnugglerBear

SnugglerBear — Fri, 26 Aug 2011 08:36:11 +0000

I would love to see Steve Jobs running in high heels.!

By: Jim Woo

Jim Woo — Sat, 13 Aug 2011 01:39:17 +0000

Well Sascha, I’m writing this a year after your original post and yes, Apple abandoned the pro market with their iMovie Pro, aka FCPX… I wonder how you felt on and after June 21st, the release date of FCPX…

By: Pedro

Pedro — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 07:29:42 +0000

MOVE TO HACKINTOSH

It’s been long since I started to dislike Apple’s behaviour… to make the story short: I moved to hackintosh a cuople of years ago and it’s been perfect for us. We still use Mac applications while we dont have to surrender to Apple’s “way of doing things”.

Things Apple did to me.

1)they charged 479 dollars to repair the supply unit in my G4!
2) I bought an iMac 24″ and it broke 3 months after buying it (it didnt start). I called Apple, they told me I should buy Apple Care Protection Plan to even start talikng on the phone!. I bought of course ACPP and they solved the problem just by telling me a combination of keys to erase i dont know what. I felt stupid again (by that time I already had my hackintosh)

ther are other small things that I dont remember now.

Then I decided I had to go back to PC’s…. and then found a COMPANY (in Europe) that manufactures hackintosh for half the price a mac—-

so to me, I dont care about mac pros, nVidia Cards, etc etc– My hackintosh is 2 years old and my graphic card is 1 gig. Same as Mac pros TODAY. Ridiculous.

By: Michael

Michael — Fri, 06 May 2011 07:11:04 +0000

Apple hasn’t snubbed Adobe!?!? The new Sandy Bridge iMacs all have Intel’s Quick Sync technology, which blows every NVIDIA/AMD GPU out of the water when it comes to encoding & decoding video. All Adobe has to do is include support for Quick Sync in their applications, honestly that would probably be a smart thing to do anyway, since every new PC& Mac is going to have this technology eventually. Pretty smart of Apple if you ask me.

If anyone got snubbed it’s NVIDIA & AMD who now have to compete with Intel’s built-in graphics solution. That’s where the real story lies.

The minor secondary story is that Intel’s Quick Sync won’t work properly yet with a separate discrete NVIDIA/AMD chip, but that’s just a software issue and should be remedied as soon as Windows & OS X catch up.

By: HowardG

HowardG — Sat, 05 Mar 2011 13:58:02 +0000

The recent release of the new Mac Book Pros with Thunderbolt AND forthcoming Final Cut Pro which is stunning according to the most highly skilled and experienced PRO’s even rating “jaw-dropping” features indicates in hindsight this article is sour grapes, even churlish. Some had said even FCP is dead, abandoned. Yeah like RED.

I’m a ‘pro’, have been for over 40 years and yes we will be buying both Mac Pro and Mac Book Pro 17″ to use later in the year with FCP, NOT CS5. A recent comparison shows CS5 is lacking in image quality, our only critera. Despite the clamour of its advances PRO’s output the highest quality work not self serving ideas of the ‘latest n greatest’.

By: Robert Williams

Robert Williams — Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:36:58 +0000

If one is stating a fact how is it whining. I bought one of the first Mac Pro towers that used the Intel chip and worked with boot camp. At the time I selected the Nvidia Quadro 4500 at an extra about $1500. You tell me why they had Nvidia then and not now. While it may be ATI does offer decent video cards for professional graphics, the ones they offer as an option are basically video game toys. Why would I want to spend that kind of money on what is being marketed at a professional machine that is still way more expensive then a PC equivalent only to have to swap out the graphics card. The least they can do is over to sell with out any card installed and save us a few bucks on their over priced machine. Also I am bound to Windows for 3DS Max and was bound to it for AutoCAD. Now there is an AutoCAD on the market for Macintosh but it does not work well at all with my Nvidia Quadro 4500 in Mac yet the latest AutoCAD does work well with that same graphics card in Windows 7 64 bit and even if I want to buy the latest Nvidia Quadro 4000, it will not work in my Mac Pro 1,1. Yet a friend of mine who has a six year old PC was able to swap out his card for the PC version of the Quadro 4000 and it works fine. I know this is a driver issue also but it is also Apple that is holding back making newer hardware incompatible with older machines. Is this what I paid $5000 for while my counter part bought a similar PC for two thirds the cost and is still able to update to the latest components. It seems to me, the big wigs would love to have more clients like you who do not complain and just eat what ever they feed you no matter how much it would cost you. And how does that fly with there ever self proclaiming GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT when we have to keep buying new hardware thus adding more to the landfills.

By: Nvidia Announces High End GPU for the Mac Pro (and Hackintosh) - NoFilmSchool

Nvidia Announces High End GPU for the Mac Pro (and Hackintosh) - NoFilmSchool — Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:38:30 +0000

[...] problem Mac Pro owners face is a lack of available nVidia graphics cards for creative professionals, which is important because of Adobe’s utilization of nVidia cards [...]

By: J

Wed, 03 Nov 2010 20:10:04 +0000

Agreed.

The article does strike me as somewhat partizan toward Adobe.

ATI cards generally perform most hum-drum workstation tasks smother than Nvidia by design and, let’s face it, as Mac users more of our software enjoys these benefits (except our guilty gaming moments of course but few would shell out for a MacPro to excel in games) and I’ve never felt the need to change out my GPU.

If CS5 wants to play Crysis and specifically follow the new, hot NVidia cards by design – over the hyper threading, multitasking route – then it is pushing me toward ATi and FCP anyway. A shame really.

By: Microsoft Could Buy Adobe and Pull the Entire Creative Suite off the Mac - NoFilmSchool

Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:46:50 +0000

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By: Sascha

Sascha — Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:27:59 +0000

Well…
First you go on to say to leave it up for the reader to decide wether this is coincidence or not. And THEN you explain why it can’t be coincidence and what the ASSUMED reasons for Apple’s actions are… and why it makes them so despicable.
I know this is just opinion, but I think you read too much into it. So they left Nvidia out? So what? You buy it from another place. I thought that was the whole purpose of buying a workstation tower. To add more parts that are available from other vendors.
You think they left it out because of ONE application that isn’t even as close to their own product either in terms of market share or price? And that almost only supports $1000+ video cards? Come on.
And I don’t get all this whining “Apple hates professionals now”. After the release of FCP 8 as a full-blown Cocoa-written, 64bit, OpenCL-accelerated, GrandCentralDispatch multicore designed next generation editing system everybody will cheer and shout “it was worth the wait!”.
I hope that will be soon (rumors say late this year or early next year) otherwise they f***ed up and you can call them names given Avid’s and Adobe’s latest NLE versions (which are very good in my opinion). I’m sure they will come up with something great. They just HAVE TO.
I know waiting is the hardest part but don’t get too freaked out about it.

By: Mac Pros Now Available to Order - NoFilmSchool

Mac Pros Now Available to Order - NoFilmSchool — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:17:08 +0000

[...] get one 1GB ATI card, or two 1GB ATI cards. That’s it. If you edit using Premiere Pro CS5, this is a problem, but if you’re a Final Cut editor, these new machines should be fine. Plus, if you run an [...]

By: Roger

Roger — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 17:23:59 +0000

Nice article… it mirrors my thoughts exactly. I need a new editing computer that supports Adobe’s MPE and Apple really isn’t helping me out.

By: Coming Soon: The NoFilmSchool Hac Pro - NoFilmSchool

Coming Soon: The NoFilmSchool Hac Pro - NoFilmSchool — Thu, 05 Aug 2010 17:11:32 +0000

[...] good value proposition. When the same new Mac Pros left off an nVidia graphics card as an option, I took it as a slight to Adobe. When I asked you guys if you’d like me to build a hackintosh in an attempt to have the best [...]

By: Matt

Matt — Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:06:47 +0000

i meant to say ‘not catering’> sorry that post was full of typo’s

By: Matt

Matt — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:07:47 +0000

This Hackintosh idea is very interesting. I personally could never go back to using Windows. The OSX experience for me is much more natural. The 27″ iMac Quad Core is what I use, for me it’s a great deal. I could never consider buying a Mac Pro – what a ridiculous waste of money. The only thing you pay for is OSX, and you pay for it because it IS a propriteary, closed system. They will not let it run on any other machine other than there own authorized components. But I installed Windows on my iMac to mainly play a few games, I would never use Windows as a main way to interface with files, and my digital media. But with a decent monitor and potentially a Hackintosh system, you could get a few mac peripherals (mouse, keyoboard etc) to make the experience kinda true. And the iMac screen is pretty damn good. Find me a screen on par with that I’d be virtually sold. Otherwise, Apple continual rejection of Blu-Ray to me is apalling. They now only cater for compressed, iStore downloads. They are catering for a creative community that needs to share in full, uncompressed HD. This was a recent dilemma for me after completing my first 1080p project… I’ve gotta buy an external Blu-Ray burner!

By: james braselton

james braselton — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:49:06 +0000

hi there wait a minute i am a hard core gamer i want quad 512 gb ssd’s why you say thats a feature that i dont need or want why is sony not going too ssd there ps3 i just dont want hard drive becuase there slow at gaming load times are forever lag times internaty soo i will be buying one of these with quad 512 gb ssd’s and be gunisess book or record for fastest gamer on the planet

By: Koo

Koo — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:11:09 +0000

Re: Google, I love their products now but I've got no illusions that they're a benevolent company. Right now their interests are aligned with ours, but who knows in several years if that will still be the case... such is the life of a consumer. As for nVidia, it seems Apple certainly could've made Fermi-based cards an option, given they just released new workstation cards.

By: Renato

Renato — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:27:59 +0000

First of all great article. I really appreciate when there is an effort on making things as clear as possible.
As a motion designer, if it comes down between choosing apple or adobe, I´ll definitely choose adobe.
Don´t get me wrong, I really love apple´s products, and I feel connected to their philosofy of usability.
But adobe has the tools of my work, If I have to run it in a Windows platform, so be it.

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