February 10, 2011

'A Nuclear Reactor in a Matchbox' is a Reality: First Lucky Owners Start Shooting on RED EPIC

RED's long-awaited follow-up to their RED ONE, the 14-megapixel-per-frame, 120 frames-per-second-shooting RED EPIC supercam, is now shipping to those lucky enough to have a low reservation number (and the cash to cover it). This is the same camera that will be used to shoot Steven Soderbergh's Contagion, the new Spiderman reboot (so soon?), David Fincher's American version of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, Underworld 4, Peter Jackson's The Hobbit, and many more Hollywood superblockbusterfests. Yet the release of EPIC also concerns those of us with less storied resumes and smaller budgets, because the same underlying technology will soon be available for us as well.

While the hand-machined brain-only price of $58k for an EPIC-M is a bit steep for most of us, the factory-produced version, the EPIC-X, will cut that price in half. The EPIC-S will again half that price, though as with all things RED, the brain-only price is far less than the amount you should expect to spend on outfitting a camera with lenses, power sources, shoulder mounts, and monitoring options. The RED SCARLET, with its 2/3" sensor and fixed lens, should come in at half the price of the EPIC-S (which, if you're keeping track, pegs the SCARLET at around $6k), but it will actually ship with a lens (and presumably some basic accessories), bringing it close to the price of a high-end DSLR like the Canon 1D Mark IV.

However, the next generation of RED technology, as with most launches, starts at the high-end. The first few EPIC-Ms are now in the wild, with user reports starting to trickle in. Here's what it look like to unbox over $80k of camera equipment:

http://vimeo.com/19714035

As you can see in the video, this was EPIC #008. Meanwhile Mark Pederson of Offhollywood received #007, aka BOND, and after a quick shoot posted a 96FPS clip shot on his EPIC. To view this .R3D clip on a Mac or PC, you can download REDCINE-X, RED's free (currently in beta) post-processing and initial color correcting tool for RED footage. If you're on a Mac, you can also try The Foundry's Storm for free until March 1, when it comes out of Public Beta and will cost $375.

REDCINE-X is for "pre-editorial image manipulation," which seems like a strange concept -- what, color correcting before editing? -- until you remember that RED footage is RAW and the changes that REDCINE-X makes to files are non-destructive. It's also not really "color correction" in the sense that many of us think of it, in that you're not processing an actual video file, but you're in fact setting white balance, gamma, black level, and other settings that a normal video camera applies during the shoot. For photographers, this is similar to shooting RAW stills as opposed to manipulating JPEGs after the fact. In terms of workflow, REDCINE-X processes the native .R3D files, allows you to do basic image processing, and outputs your shots in the editing format of your choice (whatever codec and resolution your NLE prefers). Then, after you've finished your edit, you can do your color correction in earnest, returning to the full-resolution, camera original files.

Brief tangents on workflow aside, here's what it looks like to put the modular camera together, from the same #008-owning Ketch Rossi Studios:

http://vimeo.com/19717765

When it comes down to it, the EPIC module is absurdly small, considering how much processing power is crammed into that box (the "nuclear reactor in a matchbox" quote originated from RED's Jim Jannard). As such, all EPICs have internal fans for temperature control, to avoid the overheating issues we DSLR shooters have come to know and hate.

Both EPIC owners have promised more clips in the days to come, so stay tuned to both threads below (there are separate discussion threads, but these two are limited to posts from the shooters themselves).

Watching the EPIC in action, what are you thoughts on the future of RED?

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Hey Koo,

We have almost never had an over heating issue and we shot a whole feature on HDSLR, on 7D and T2i. We where in 95+ degrees on black pavement in direct heat for over 8 hours shooting with the 7D, it gave us a warning but never failed us. The T2i turned off on us once in 95+ degrees in direct sun in a corn field. I can't say there is any over heating issues. We ditched all warnings and issues by flagging off the sun light. The T2i was back online in less than a minute once we flagged off the sun.

Over heating issues are way over pushed.

-Darren

February 10, 2011

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shooting in sunny and hot southern Spain in the summer (where 95ºF is very mild weather), I've had plenty of overheating issues

but I didn't have my battery grip back then, and this part helps a lot, as the battery is one of the bits of the camera that creates most heat, so taking it farther away from the sensor is a good idea; I'll see, next summer, if the problem is definitely solved or just mitigated

February 11, 2011

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Beautiful...I have to keep reminding myself: "It's the filmmaker, not the camera." Red, obviously, will continue to be a huge player in the world of independent film. I'm glad they've finally made it (somewhat) beyond the vaporware stage...and I look forward to the day that I'll be able to buy a Scarlet. For now, my T2i works just fine...I just need to get out there and shoot more!

February 10, 2011

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I have nothing but thanks to RED, I like their cameras I plan to use their cameras in the future, but my concern with the above post has nothing to due with that. It's just about the over heating, that I think is grossly over talked about. It's not really a problem at all with the cameras.

February 10, 2011

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I still think DSLR is the trick for small film makers in small markets like Arica where film simply reduced them to extras in stories about foreigners in their land. Long live DSLR, just let us shoot RAW.

February 10, 2011

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Bob

*Africa

February 10, 2011

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Bob

$58,000 gets a little more than just the epic-m brain. you also get the bomb evf, 5" touch screen LCD, side handle, side SSD module, redmote, 4 128gb SSD, 4 batteries and charger. so it's not quite as pricey when you look at it that way. http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=52244

i'm really hoping that scarlet stays at $6000 for a shooting package. that's still really expensive for me, but at least it's feasible.

February 10, 2011

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dustin

Thanks Dustin -- I'd forgotten the EPIC-Ms were a package deal.

February 10, 2011

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Ryan Koo
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Hi Koo the "96FPS clip shot on his EPIC" reference that you address here, works for you ??? because for me in redcine-x and premiere is not working at all. At least for me.

February 11, 2011

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atd3d

I'm having the same problem. I assumed it was because I'm on a laptop right now -- has anyone else gotten the .R3D file playing back correctly?

February 11, 2011

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Ryan Koo
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Same here W7 x64 bits, i7 950 12 gb ram. So is not a power horse problem.

February 12, 2011

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Atd3d

Rumor is that they will add EPIC compatibility in the new Adobe CS6. Maybe CS5 will get an update to accept .RED files that come out of the EPIC...

February 12, 2011

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Fotis

this comment made me look for this info, maybe some other people will find it useful:

CS3: announced on March 27, 2007
CS4: announced on September 23, 2008
CS5: announced on March 23, 2010, released on 30 April 2010

February 13, 2011

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Discovered you need a specific build of REDCINE-X for EPIC files. The links are here:

http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=53310

February 13, 2011

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Ryan Koo
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@ Bob, I have to absolutely agree with you there as an African. I can drool all i want over the latest RED gear but know that the exchange rate favors the HDSLR and all its mods and gets us shooting our stories... our way.

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tolu