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	<title>Comments on: First RED EPIC-M Monochrome Footage Might Be the Beginning of a Black and White Resurgence</title>
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		<title>By: blog &#124; leopold fuchs</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/10/red-epic-m-monochrome-footage/comment-page-1/#comment-334311</link>
		<dc:creator>blog &#124; leopold fuchs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] red epic-m monochrome footage [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Jóy Williams : David Fincher and Justin Timberlake Team Up for &#8216;Suit &#38; Tie&#8217; Music Video Shot on RED EPIC Monochrome.</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/10/red-epic-m-monochrome-footage/comment-page-1/#comment-329312</link>
		<dc:creator>Jóy Williams : David Fincher and Justin Timberlake Team Up for &#8216;Suit &#38; Tie&#8217; Music Video Shot on RED EPIC Monochrome.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] mentioned we might be seeing a comeback for real black and white, and it looks like we’ve got one of our first examples on a big scale. We knew David Fincher was [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: RED Founder Jannard sues Sony featuring Justin Timberlake, huh? - Anne-Rae Vasquez</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/10/red-epic-m-monochrome-footage/comment-page-1/#comment-322364</link>
		<dc:creator>RED Founder Jannard sues Sony featuring Justin Timberlake, huh? - Anne-Rae Vasquez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2013 03:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and Ties&#8221;, directed by Academy Award nominee David Fincher and ironically shot on five of Red Epic M Monochrome cameras, the latest in digital film [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: David Fincher and Justin Timberlake Team Up for &#8216;Suit &#38; Tie&#8217; Music Video Shot on RED EPIC Monochrome - NoFilmSchool</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/10/red-epic-m-monochrome-footage/comment-page-1/#comment-322299</link>
		<dc:creator>David Fincher and Justin Timberlake Team Up for &#8216;Suit &#38; Tie&#8217; Music Video Shot on RED EPIC Monochrome - NoFilmSchool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2013 01:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] mentioned we might be seeing a comeback for real black and white, and it looks like we&#8217;ve got one of our first examples on a big scale. We knew David Fincher [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mentioned we might be seeing a comeback for real black and white, and it looks like we&#8217;ve got one of our first examples on a big scale. We knew David Fincher [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/10/red-epic-m-monochrome-footage/comment-page-1/#comment-261702</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 03:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...No. I mean as in using the monochrome image as the base, and using the color footage as a filter, similar to the way you combine images to make an HDRI. Is it fun being condescending?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;No. I mean as in using the monochrome image as the base, and using the color footage as a filter, similar to the way you combine images to make an HDRI. Is it fun being condescending?</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Phillips</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/10/red-epic-m-monochrome-footage/comment-page-1/#comment-261653</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 01:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Switching my Disply Pref to PAL/SECAM actually gave this media the blackness it needs (imho).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Switching my Disply Pref to PAL/SECAM actually gave this media the blackness it needs (imho).</p>
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		<title>By: RED EPIC Monochrome vs. RED EPIC: a Jaw-Dropping Black and White Comparison - NoFilmSchool</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/10/red-epic-m-monochrome-footage/comment-page-1/#comment-261632</link>
		<dc:creator>RED EPIC Monochrome vs. RED EPIC: a Jaw-Dropping Black and White Comparison - NoFilmSchool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 00:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] since we first talked about RED&#8217;s new black and white only EPIC Monochrome cameras, and then even showed footage, many have still been unsure why a product like this exists in the first place. Why not just take [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] since we first talked about RED&#8217;s new black and white only EPIC Monochrome cameras, and then even showed footage, many have still been unsure why a product like this exists in the first place. Why not just take [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Mimura</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/10/red-epic-m-monochrome-footage/comment-page-1/#comment-254881</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Mimura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 01:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree 100%.  without color information, you can&#039;t make color specific contrast adjustments.

You have no secondary color correction.  You have primary only (on set)...you can put a red filter on the lens to make a grey apple look darker than the grey leaves on the apple tree.  Or you could put a green filter on to make the leaves darker grey than the apples (I&#039;m talking about red apples in my example, obviously...not granny smiths...)

But you do either of those and you&#039;re making decisions that will affect the skin tones of actors (and the sky and every other color b/c you can&#039;t individually isolate it.)

Also, when&#039;s the last time you saw a color filter set at a rental house for black and white?  Who has all these filters with modern levels of sharpness for modern sensors or cameras?

And the only real benefit is sharpness and lack of noise in the shadows and things that the red&#039;s (and prettymuch every other professional digital camera---and most non-professional ones too, btw...) already have.  Okay, so if the new dragon is gonna be 6k...that&#039;s gonna be plenty sharp for a 4k projector...

Color is better for modern black and white except for this &quot;sharpness&quot; &quot;resolution&quot; bs...

...since sharpness is also a psychological phenomenon, heightened by contrast, the ability to make your image more contrasty based on the color information (or less contrasty---to make a different part of the image more prominent, or to defocus a certain color like say the cooler colors to make backgrounds less sharp of a vista type of shot [since the cooler colors recede]) ...you can make your film &quot;sharp&quot; without having a technically sharper resolved image.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 100%.  without color information, you can&#8217;t make color specific contrast adjustments.</p>
<p>You have no secondary color correction.  You have primary only (on set)&#8230;you can put a red filter on the lens to make a grey apple look darker than the grey leaves on the apple tree.  Or you could put a green filter on to make the leaves darker grey than the apples (I&#8217;m talking about red apples in my example, obviously&#8230;not granny smiths&#8230;)</p>
<p>But you do either of those and you&#8217;re making decisions that will affect the skin tones of actors (and the sky and every other color b/c you can&#8217;t individually isolate it.)</p>
<p>Also, when&#8217;s the last time you saw a color filter set at a rental house for black and white?  Who has all these filters with modern levels of sharpness for modern sensors or cameras?</p>
<p>And the only real benefit is sharpness and lack of noise in the shadows and things that the red&#8217;s (and prettymuch every other professional digital camera&#8212;and most non-professional ones too, btw&#8230;) already have.  Okay, so if the new dragon is gonna be 6k&#8230;that&#8217;s gonna be plenty sharp for a 4k projector&#8230;</p>
<p>Color is better for modern black and white except for this &#8220;sharpness&#8221; &#8220;resolution&#8221; bs&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;since sharpness is also a psychological phenomenon, heightened by contrast, the ability to make your image more contrasty based on the color information (or less contrasty&#8212;to make a different part of the image more prominent, or to defocus a certain color like say the cooler colors to make backgrounds less sharp of a vista type of shot [since the cooler colors recede]) &#8230;you can make your film &#8220;sharp&#8221; without having a technically sharper resolved image.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Mimura</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/10/red-epic-m-monochrome-footage/comment-page-1/#comment-254868</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Mimura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 01:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yup.  It&#039;s usually forced on the filmmakers by the behest of the producers and/or the studio.  In the Soup was a black and white film that was released in color at Blockbuster...

Some filmmakers chose color b/c the modern color stocks have significantly less grain than plus-x, tri-x, double-c, (and especially) 4x.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup.  It&#8217;s usually forced on the filmmakers by the behest of the producers and/or the studio.  In the Soup was a black and white film that was released in color at Blockbuster&#8230;</p>
<p>Some filmmakers chose color b/c the modern color stocks have significantly less grain than plus-x, tri-x, double-c, (and especially) 4x.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/10/red-epic-m-monochrome-footage/comment-page-1/#comment-252456</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, strange. Works fine for me in Chrome and Safari.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, strange. Works fine for me in Chrome and Safari.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Epic-M Monochrome skapar snygga svartvita bilderStorytools &#124; Storytools</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/10/red-epic-m-monochrome-footage/comment-page-1/#comment-252447</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Epic-M Monochrome skapar snygga svartvita bilderStorytools &#124; Storytools</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 06:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] fördelarna är att filma i svartvik istället för att göra svartvitt i gradingen istället. Som ni kan hitta här.   (function(d, s, id) { var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; if (d.getElementById(id)) [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fördelarna är att filma i svartvik istället för att göra svartvitt i gradingen istället. Som ni kan hitta här.   (function(d, s, id) { var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; if (d.getElementById(id)) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Marine</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/10/red-epic-m-monochrome-footage/comment-page-1/#comment-252393</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Marine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 02:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a future post where I&#039;m going to show people why sensors with the color filters removed do better black and white than color sensors with footage converted to black and white.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a future post where I&#8217;m going to show people why sensors with the color filters removed do better black and white than color sensors with footage converted to black and white.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/10/red-epic-m-monochrome-footage/comment-page-1/#comment-252384</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 02:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stupid Infantile Rookie Question:

(Further disclaimer, this may sound like drawing a handlebar mustache on the Mona Lisa right before you set it on fire) If the Epic M does black and white better than a color camera could, does that mean that the Color Epic would do better than the Epic M? Why not buy an Epic M and then colorize the footage in post production (So that you can have great black-and-white if you want without needing to forego color footage either?

 I highiy suspect this wouldn&#039;t work and violates some sort of cinematic sacred ground, but if I don&#039;t ask the question, I won&#039;t get the answer. Thank you for your patience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupid Infantile Rookie Question:</p>
<p>(Further disclaimer, this may sound like drawing a handlebar mustache on the Mona Lisa right before you set it on fire) If the Epic M does black and white better than a color camera could, does that mean that the Color Epic would do better than the Epic M? Why not buy an Epic M and then colorize the footage in post production (So that you can have great black-and-white if you want without needing to forego color footage either?</p>
<p> I highiy suspect this wouldn&#8217;t work and violates some sort of cinematic sacred ground, but if I don&#8217;t ask the question, I won&#8217;t get the answer. Thank you for your patience.</p>
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		<title>By: sammy</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/10/red-epic-m-monochrome-footage/comment-page-1/#comment-251644</link>
		<dc:creator>sammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are so many color Epics out there but if you
bought this B&amp;W one you&#039;d have alot easier time renting it and making
money with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are so many color Epics out there but if you<br />
bought this B&amp;W one you&#8217;d have alot easier time renting it and making<br />
money with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Marine</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/10/red-epic-m-monochrome-footage/comment-page-1/#comment-251483</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Marine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep, somehow totally missed that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, somehow totally missed that.</p>
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		<title>By: Natt</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/10/red-epic-m-monochrome-footage/comment-page-1/#comment-251476</link>
		<dc:creator>Natt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;the girl wasn`t that hot, either…
it&#039;s okay to be gay, though]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;the girl wasn`t that hot, either…<br />
it&#8217;s okay to be gay, though</p>
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		<title>By: Natt</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/10/red-epic-m-monochrome-footage/comment-page-1/#comment-251473</link>
		<dc:creator>Natt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt; It will be interesting to see if they do a monochrome version of the new Dragon sensor

$42,000 ( brain only ) includes upgrade to Dragon Monochrome Sensor spring 2013.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; It will be interesting to see if they do a monochrome version of the new Dragon sensor</p>
<p>$42,000 ( brain only ) includes upgrade to Dragon Monochrome Sensor spring 2013.</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/10/red-epic-m-monochrome-footage/comment-page-1/#comment-251456</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[some of my favorite movies are shot in B&amp;W,
but in general I think that color = more information
also these days grading (color correction) is quite easy to do, so I don&#039;t really see a reason not to shoot in color...
(if you don&#039;t need to shoot a whole movie at ISO 2000+ that is :-)
imho even this footage would look better in color...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some of my favorite movies are shot in B&amp;W,<br />
but in general I think that color = more information<br />
also these days grading (color correction) is quite easy to do, so I don&#8217;t really see a reason not to shoot in color&#8230;<br />
(if you don&#8217;t need to shoot a whole movie at ISO 2000+ that is :-)<br />
imho even this footage would look better in color&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Fischer</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/10/red-epic-m-monochrome-footage/comment-page-1/#comment-251200</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...a flat Colorprofile]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;a flat Colorprofile</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/10/red-epic-m-monochrome-footage/comment-page-1/#comment-251149</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 05:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the clarification, it makes a little more sense now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the clarification, it makes a little more sense now.</p>
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