Comments on: Canon C500 is Shipping, but Canon's RAW Implementation is Unlike Any You've Seen Before

By: larry towers

larry towers — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:49:23 +0000

C500 + Ki Pro Quad + commodity SSDs is going to come out quite a bit cheaper than similar capability from RED or 3rd party kludges.
Your math skills are wanting. The KiPro quad and SSD solutions work for the Red Camera as well, so the only difference is the camera price.

By: larry towers

larry towers — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:42:03 +0000

“Some of the cheaper zoom lenses good for documentary (24-105) are at F4, ”
Get better lenses! It makes much mores ense to put $ into glass than cameras!

By: larry towers

larry towers — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:40:02 +0000

10-bit log encoded, which gives you a 12 bit linear result.
BS
Log shooting is a tradeoff. there is no way 1024 possible levels translates to 4096 levels. You are just sacrificing dynamic resolution in other parts of the image, midtones, to preserve highlights and blacks.

By: Working with Canon C500 RAW and the Convergent Design Gemini 4:4:4 - NoFilmSchool

Thu, 27 Dec 2012 22:07:22 +0000

[...] workflow, and the situation is no different with the Canon C500. We already talked a bit about the interesting way in which Canon is producing a RAW image with that camera (aside from being completely uncompressed), but we didn’t get into what [...]

By: Canon C500 4K Short Film ‘ALEX’ Puts the Camera Through Its Paces - NoFilmSchool

Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:39:25 +0000

[...] film Man & Beast shot by Jeff Cronenweth, ASC, there hasn’t been much footage showing off what the already shipping Canon C500 is capable of. Since it has the same sensor and identical internal recording, footage shot right [...]

By: Daniel Mimura

Daniel Mimura — Sun, 18 Nov 2012 09:15:20 +0000

I’d rather shoot RAW for docs than anything else. The workflow stuff is fine in post—it’s on set (I mean—on location)…where you don’t have that control. I try to still light docs as much as I can, but I’m not doing anywhere near what I do on a narrative.

I don’t get the resistance to RAW. Having that kind of control is the best thing ever. …but 1TB an hour for RAW? Forget it. You lost me a long time ago, Canon.

By: Daniel Mimura

Daniel Mimura — Sun, 18 Nov 2012 09:04:29 +0000

The crop factor shouldn’t be a problem for Epic at 2k…just shoot full K’s and downrez. Oversampling is better quality anyway (look at the Baraka bluray…first bluray to scan at 8K…it shows, it’s the best I’ve bluray I’ve seen).

That way you’d get the best 2K quality, as well as that good ol’ super-35 depth of field. If you think it’s overkill…transcode down to 2k and delete. I’d rather have 4k/5k and not use it than not have it at all.

Btw, I’d never shoot 7D at 3200. I avoid going above 640, and 1250 is the max.

By: A Little Bit Of Everything CanonWatch

A Little Bit Of Everything CanonWatch — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 07:11:47 +0000

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By: Alex James

Alex James — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 18:33:23 +0000

Wow beautiful cinematography from one of my Favourite DP’s His dad is ever so much pioneering with his use of had lighting in Blade Runner

Tech Guys can somebody explain the advantage of using this way of RAW is it to make it less noise, better quality etc.

Also can somebody explain to me what debayering is?

Thanks

By: Andrew

Andrew — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 12:53:44 +0000

That’s a wild assertion. Most mainstream features are being shot on 35mm and Alexa. There are some very prominent Epic productions out there, but not everything the crews working on those films have been saying about the Epic has been positive – big problems in the early months of The Hobbit for example. C500 is already beginning to crop up on big films, e.g. Oscar winner Anthony Dod Mantle used one on Danny Boyle’s Trance as a compact B-camera to the Alexa. The form factor is very appealing, and if the image quality is in the Alexa ball park…

By: Randy Noland

Randy Noland — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:45:48 +0000

JamJam, eager to hear how things are going with your C500. Have you received other components and been able to shoot yet? Thank you.

By: Aaron Kamp

Aaron Kamp — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 08:58:23 +0000

I just saw Man & Beast last night, projected in 4K at a local cinema. All I can say is WOW! I don’t care what Canon are doing ‘under the hood’ to achieve their 4K, the results look absolutely stunning on the big screen.

By: Stephen Brenner

Stephen Brenner — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 08:09:27 +0000

Looks like I’m the only one not impressed by this video. I don’t see much dynamic range here or crisp IQ.
Compare to a Black Magic Cinema sample at http://vimeo.com/46460980#

By: Canon Ships the C500 with White Balance Users May Not Be Thrilled With

Canon Ships the C500 with White Balance Users May Not Be Thrilled With — Thu, 08 Nov 2012 21:15:07 +0000

[...] I’m not much of a numbers guy when it comes to benchmarks, but this is interesting. According to an analysis done by Andy Shipsodes of AbelCine, while Canon does offer a RAW output [...]

By: ryan

ryan — Thu, 08 Nov 2012 03:53:01 +0000

yes

By: Ernesto

Ernesto — Thu, 08 Nov 2012 03:33:05 +0000

Almos all of that promotional has something very wrong: the shutter is at “360º” (the impossible for a mechanichal shutter, but quite a normal option in video cameras; 1/24th, for instance) instead of 180º in all othe slowmo shots. It ends up looking like a video that craved for light when shooting auto. I don’t understand why many pros use this shutter speed. Perhaps coming from film they think that the right setting is that which equals the frames per second (1/24 for 24fps instead of 1/48 to mimic the 180º mechanical shutter from film cameras)?
Of course, this can be an aesthetic choice, or a technical one when you need that extra stop. But seeing how in many movies this happens in slowmo shots (and in some movies like Public Enemies or Captain America it happens in the entire movie, I remember how bad it was to watch it) but stays right in the rest of the shots, I think this is a common mistake. But it screams “video” to me.

By: Canon C500 is Shipping, but Canon’s RAW Implementation is Unlike Any You’ve Seen Before - NoFilmSchool | C500 | Scoop.it

Thu, 08 Nov 2012 03:32:54 +0000

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By: carl weston

carl weston — Thu, 08 Nov 2012 03:10:24 +0000

Question, is the dynamic range of the C500 the same as the C300?

By: ryan

ryan — Thu, 08 Nov 2012 03:02:06 +0000

Jesus fine if you’re style is no reference mixed color temp then the scarlet is better, for those who don’t mind using references and utilizing a base color temperature for a scene then the c500 is a potential option.

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