Comments on: GoPro HERO3 Shoots 4K, but is It Usable? Plus More Sample Videos

By: lutchot

lutchot — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 05:19:37 +0000

Hello every one,

Y want to know, what work flow you use to edit 4k go pro in FCP ?

Thanks

By: Rick Harker

Rick Harker — Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:28:56 +0000

“OSD image stabilization”
I’ve been trying to find this. Is it available with the GoPro 2?

By: Daniel Mimura

Daniel Mimura — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 01:11:00 +0000

I think the terms should still be used b/c it implies that you are shooting faster or slower than the projected speed, so it still works if your projected speed is 16-18fps silent, 24fps, 30fps, 48 or 60 (like original showscan not the new Coke digital version)) or whatever.

And as far as it being a “film term”, yes, it derived from film, but hand cranking went out with the silent era when it was actually cranked, but the term has still stuck around for the past 90years.

By: Cameradep

Cameradep — Sat, 17 Nov 2012 04:40:28 +0000

Camera Operator (with film cameras) will over crank to make a slow motion effect and under crank to make a fast motion effect.

A projectionist will use overcranking to speed up the film and under cranking to slow the film.

Remember that everything that is shot on film, comes in a negative form of what we see (basically backwards). Once the film is developed, printed, and finally viewed on the big screen you see exactly what you are suppose to see.

By: Monique

Monique — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 22:17:38 +0000

I just bought the Hero3 Silver addition (Yes, the extra 100 cannolies did make a difference considering the LCD was another $100 plus all the other doo-dads one has to purchase). As I am a true member of NoFilmSchool being a virgin to everything “film” my brain is being tortured with all this information. However, I did see a post as I was frantically searching for info that said you could shoot in 1080 (no, I do not know what that means) and then work in a 720 workspace (still don’t understand, but plan to learn) to edit the footage that will then get rid of the fisheye effect (which is why I bought the GoPro). Does anyone here know if this does indeed work?
And just a little FYI (coming from me, ridiculous), I read through an article with John Galt http://magazine.creativecow.net/article/the-truth-about-2k-4k-the-future-of-pixels
and he explains why 4k isn’t really 4k. Just to make my head hurt even more. I believe that the Hero 3 lands in the “bull” 4k department.

By: Tyler

Tyler — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:50:34 +0000

I wouldn’t like to use 14fps footage, even crop 2.7k because of the fisheye. It would look really weird.

By: Ty

Ty — Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:45:35 +0000

I know, that video looks pretty great for GoPro footage! I think it helps that pretty much all of it was filmed outside on bright sunny days. Lots of light will bring out the best in any sensor. Also helps to point said sensor at people jumping off cliffs and beautiful women surfing.

By: Ty

Ty — Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:42:47 +0000

True story! 1080 @ 60fps is enough for me to justify the cost of a GoPro. Sadly my 5D3 can’t do this, and it will forever remain a mystery as to why… I am sure it has been discussed endlessly beneath one of these articles.

By: Ty

Ty — Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:40:24 +0000

Sort of. There is no manual white balance in the way you could white balance a normal video camera – as in, aiming the camera at a white card and using it to balance manually. You CAN set the white balance manually to 3000k, 5500k, 6500k, and a mode called Cam RAW.

From the GoPro Manual:
“GoPro Cam RAW mode yields a minimally processed data file direct from the image sensor that allows for more precise adjustments to be made in post-process. Working in this mode takes full advantage of the image sensor’s capabilities.”

By: GoPro HERO2 vs. HERO3 Showdown, and Shooting 2.7K with the HERO3 - NoFilmSchool

GoPro HERO2 vs. HERO3 Showdown, and Shooting 2.7K with the HERO3 - NoFilmSchool — Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:47:05 +0000

[...] you’re thinking about a GoPro HERO3 but you already have a HERO2? We’ve seen some full 4K samples of the new GoPro HERO3 Black Edition, now we’ve got not only a comparison between the new and [...]

By: Mike

Mike — Sun, 11 Nov 2012 13:53:51 +0000

OSD or OIS?

By: Travis

Travis — Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:27:26 +0000

Can you manually white balance?

By: shaun wilson

shaun wilson — Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:51:13 +0000

It does have a view finder, the LCD is an optional mod for around the $100 mark depending on where you live.

By: dj

dj — Sun, 11 Nov 2012 01:59:00 +0000

Sony’s FS700 $8,000 dollars – Go pro 3 $400

By: Swested

Swested — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:03:07 +0000

Thanks, that’s a pretty helpful assessment. I might hold off on seeing a few more actual video reviews before placing an order.

Makes you really wonder how much grading and effects work went into making that official promo that claims to be 100% from the Black edition: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3PDXmYoF5U

By: David S.

David S. — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:49:32 +0000

Personally, I think the most practical purpose for 4k and 2.7k on this camera is for cropping in post. The most obvious necessary evil of the gopro is the lack of viewfinder, so shot composition is always a guessing game.

By: Mike

Mike — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:56:42 +0000

why would a projectionist be doing under cranking or over cranking?

By: Mike

Mike — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:55:07 +0000

4k 15fps is very useful. Timelapse is almost a staple of videography nowadays. Every option is a tool that is very useful for the right application.

By: Ty

Ty — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 07:56:17 +0000

Just picked up my GoPro3 Black Edition a couple days ago. After fooling around with it, I have observed some things:

1. The lens is slightly improved from the old model. f/2.8 helps in indoor situations, and aspherical elements in the glass help with lens distortion but don’t eliminate it all together. Still has some “bubble” to it.

2. Right now, it does not support compatibility with the GoPro app on iOS. I have read that they will release a firmware update in December to make this happen. This will allow the user to check framing with iOS device as well as access settings more easily, which will be nice because it’s a pain to toggle through the whole menu with just two buttons.

3. It includes a cine-mode that helps a little in boosting dynamic range, but this essentially still operates like a point and shoot camera. Everything is auto.

4. The slow motion is one of the features that drew me to this camera. 720p at 120fps looks terrible unless you are in bright daylight situations. Lots of moire and lots of (undesirable) grain. Having used Sony’s FS700, I can tell you they simply don’t compare. 1080p at 60fps looks much better and seems to be useable on a professional level (depending on the job).

5. Although the demos above make it seem optimistic, I see very little situations where the 4k would be useable from this camera. Especially with fast motion and moving objects that are “complicated” for a motion estimation algorithm to figure out. I haven’t tried it myself though, but I’d say you are more limited by the lack of control (aka auto everything) than by the pixels with this camera.

By: trackofalljades

trackofalljades — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 05:26:13 +0000

It gets confusing because to a projectionist and to a cameraman the terms mean exactly opposite things. ;)