Comments on: RED Challenging the Competition with a 4K Content Distribution Network and 4K REDRAY Players

By: RED Announces REDRAY 4K Playback System for Under $1,500 and Debuts New Distribution Network - NoFilmSchool

Sat, 01 Dec 2012 01:18:24 +0000

[...] of the presses, RED has just announced — as they said they would — their REDRAY 4K playback system, a 6-pound, DVD Player-sized playback device for $1,450. It [...]

By: Stu Mannion

Stu Mannion — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 23:24:56 +0000

I see a danger in indie filmmakers thinking its an advantage to finish in 4k and completely destroying their render times. I say leave 4k finishing for the biggest of productions to eventually take on. For budget work finishing in anything more than HD or 2k is a waste of resources that would be much better used on any other aspect of the production. This is not going to change for several years.

By: Sony First out of the Gate with a Home Server Delivering 4K Content - NoFilmSchool

Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:59:25 +0000

[...] just a matter of hours, RED should be unveiling the final shipping model of REDRAY, its compressed 4K playback machine, as well as a brand new 4K distribution network. [...]

By: Daniel Mimura

Daniel Mimura — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:44:12 +0000

4k is great for the theater, but I’m in no hurry for 4k in the home, and I’m generally a quality freak…

If I had the money for a home 4k system, I’d buy my 1st PL mount lens instead. Do more to create beautiful imagery than to consume them…

By: Daniel Mimura

Daniel Mimura — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:39:30 +0000

All it’s costing me is the media cost (& that’s no small price, honestly… Redmags are expensive.), the dock, and a Nikon mount b/c I don’t own PL glass, and cables (which many people consider expensive, but honestly, they’re generally cheaper than other industry standard cables like arri/panavison/moviecam…etc). V-mount batteries…check. Heavy duty tripod…check (and it will work way better than with the light D-SLR’s b/c R1 weighs closer to the 16mm cameras/ENG cameras it was designed for.) Rods, rails, matte box…check. Monitor…check. Anyone that’s been shooting with d-slrs in any professional or semi-professional capacity should have most of what’s needed to make a R1MX work, cheaply. I am gonna get the element technica breakout box ($500) cuz those mini HD-SDI connectors are flimsy.

So for me…redmag:128GB, $1250, reader: $200, 4pin XLR to red one cable: $150, p-tap to red one cable (best to have both options): $185 (& I already can run it off of steadicam rig—I just can’t off of a v-mount plate), Nikon mount: $500: $2785

(I also need to upgrade my less than 1 yr old iMac to get CUDA processing, since I’m avoiding buying a red rocket card.)

No, it’s not cheap, but the difference of between something with 7-8 stops lattitude and 12-13 is HUGE. Enough that it negates, for me, paying a little bit more for a proper camera instead of hobbling together all kinds of AKS to make a d-SLR work. And before anyone anti-Red brings up BMCC about how much cheaper it is, to make it work, you will have to spend just as much excluding the Redmags—SSD’s aren’t cheap, but they’re cheaper…but it eats up 4 times the drive space at 2.5k what Red does at 4.

The price drop, as well as needing a good newer better-than-DSLR for a couple projects starting up…it was a no brainer. I’m camera agnostic…I just what the best tools for the price that I can afford. Actually, I’m no fanboy for any, but I have become a canon hater. (I’m a red fanboy hater too…not the camera…just most of the users.)

By: Daniel Mimura

Daniel Mimura — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 08:56:17 +0000

Nice.

By: Duncan

Duncan — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 14:24:17 +0000

I love this site, and mostly enjoy the comments, but this board really needs an ignore feature.

By: Jason

Jason — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 16:53:16 +0000

Now if only i could get FIOS in 1080p for my 1080p TV, I’m still waiting on the bump up from 1080i. I love fiber though, it’s a beast to work with. Saves time not having to pull out cables

By: Lliam

Lliam — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 05:09:44 +0000

Mmmmm…. arri women.

By: Lliam

Lliam — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 05:09:11 +0000

I’d rather you did your own investigating in future…

LCD – $500
GMP batteries x 2 plus charger – $800
Used Red Drive – $300 – you can buy two if you need to, and still be under 2k.

By: earthrokk

earthrokk — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 03:33:57 +0000

This is cool, but it will suck big time in one way…Internet Service Providers. ISP’s are going to love this because if 4K becomes standard, metered internet access will generate move revenue from customers. Internet access is quickly becoming a entertainment utility service and not the tool to move people forward. I sure Comcast would love to send you a $350 internet bill.

By: RED Drops Another Bomb with News of RED Ray Distribution Network

RED Drops Another Bomb with News of RED Ray Distribution Network — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 20:45:13 +0000

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By: Natt

Natt — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:54:22 +0000

The Big 3… who cares about TV these days anyway?

By: Natt

Natt — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:49:50 +0000

Red Fanboys, Arri Fanboys, Sony Fanboys, Canon Fanboys… They’re everywhere and they want to take our women! What’s your point exactly?

By: Natt

Natt — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:46:57 +0000

Windows 98??? Good God!

By: Natt

Natt — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:43:28 +0000

Yeah, every film ever shot on the magnificent ALEXA was a masterpiece, oh yeah. Let the sky fall.

By: ryan

ryan — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 17:52:28 +0000

I give up, I was never was talking about DPs, I said operator. Most DSLR shooters I work with can’t sync timecode between cameras, don’t know how to calibrate a light meter, and they don’t even know how to properly pack up a tripod. Talk about all the artsy composition vision stuff you want, but if you lack practical basics then you’re useless. Some DP’s are mentors and some are tyrants who are itching to kick a newbie (dslr guy) off a set. I never said to buy anything either, most rental houses have down time. If they’re chill they will let you mess around with gear when its not being rented out. Easiest way to get experience.

By: jack

jack — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 16:34:11 +0000

TV shows 50 years ago won’t become extinct because they were shot on 35mm. 35mm can be scan to 4k resolution. Its because 16mm film was consider an amateur format until the super16 came around. Even than it was only used on indie films and TV News. Actually more modern shows will be come extinct because they were shot on 16mm or SD Video.

But 4k Distribution right now is too expensive. The big 3 (ABC,CBS,NBC) will decide when this happen just like HD. Not Red.

By: Danyyyel

Danyyyel — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:04:38 +0000

In the end, I think that this move by red will be good for the creative side of cinematography. It will show how much more important lighting and composition are compared to resolution. I am sure you will get to see some of those blockbusters and some sleek production, we will a big number of below par production that will have only one merit to have been shot in 4k.

By: Danyyyel

Danyyyel — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 14:54:49 +0000

You should detail us how you can run a redone for lets say a day shoot for $ 1k to 2k more. It would be reasonable for ebay second hand things to understand that the price will be much higher now that this camera is again …. lets say in market again.