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By: Canon Releases 4k DSLR Hybrid

Canon Releases 4k DSLR Hybrid — Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:04:08 +0000

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Episode 40 – “I’m Buying a Smoke Machine” : On Taking Pictures — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:36:59 +0000

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By: Philip Bloom Braves the Weather for His In-Depth Canon 1D C Review, Plus More Sample Footage - NoFilmSchool

Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:53:33 +0000

[...] it’s the first time a camera of this size has been able to reach that standard. The 1D C has received a mixed reaction, however, mostly because of its price, which is quite a bit above anything most people would call [...]

By: Grab Some 4K Canon 1D C DSLR Sample Footage, and Check Out a Possible FCPX Workflow - NoFilmSchool

Mon, 21 Jan 2013 07:24:30 +0000

[...] 4K video capable DSLR, the EOS-1D C, has marked an upset for the DSLR industry — and in more ways than one. Many feel that the addition of Motion-JPEG alone is not worth [...]

By: Paper_bag

Paper_bag — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 03:53:46 +0000

Couple of quick thoughts — (1) the extra dynamic range and lowlight of this camera are exciting, quite apart from the 4K; (2) for me personally, the image out of this cam looks good, regardless of colour depth; I’ve never entirely liked the look of the C300 and C100, though going by specs maybe you’d think they’d produce a similar image; I suppose internal processing is the difference; not sure; (3) rental option! Say they cost $400 to hire for a weekend, and you needed three of them for a wedding, is that so unrealistic to build into the price of a package? Or companies that shoot with just one highlights person and one or two documentary people could hire just one 1DC.

By: RED SCARLET Named PDN’s Video Camera of the Year, What Will Happen in 2013? - NoFilmSchool

Thu, 03 Jan 2013 15:50:59 +0000

[...] mirror anytime soon, but I’m inclined to think it will start happening sooner or later based on some thoughts from a recent Canon 1D C post. Of course, their reasoning doesn’t factor in usability, which [...]

By: Canon 1DC, is that the 4K camera that we need and want? | Cine Tech Fever

Canon 1DC, is that the 4K camera that we need and want? | Cine Tech Fever — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 06:58:04 +0000

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By: Joshua

Joshua — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 00:01:02 +0000

If this camera had raw or close to it at 2K, I would get it! 4K is awesome, but I’d much rather have a Full Frame 2K raw any day. Why doesn’t someone make this! Canon, or somebody, could make a 2k raw full frame camera that would give just as good of a “film look” as red, and do it much cheaper.

By: Abraham Joffe

Abraham Joffe — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 22:29:03 +0000

Very interesting to read many of the comments above from obviously a wide spectrum of film and television backgrounds. I just want to give a response to a couple of things.. Firstly this wasn’t a canon paid promo. I approahed them asking to get my hands on a couple of 1DCs, and shoot our own projeç. Try had no input or influence on what we did. In fact canon Australia was suprised the “stills from 4k” was what we were focussing on. Secondly, I’m well aware that this is no way a first, I’ve been a RED follower for a long time. What I did enjoy exploring is the “solo” nature of run and gun shooting that this cam allows. (Ie Balancing it on the glidecam was easy.) One thing that isn’t as easy to appreciate in the film is the print quality. With the prints in front of you it’s easy to forget they are essentially 8bit jpegs. Comparing it to an EPIC i think is like comparing a great high performance BMW to a Formula One car. I totally agree the camera is well overpriced, and the “24fps only” is very limiting but I do see a place for this camera for news gatherers and certain hybrid-senarios. The 5Dm2 had so many crtisisms when it was released (in terms of compression, lack of DR, no timecode etc) and it did find a place for filmmakers. The only BIG difference I see here is that the price is very prohibitive and displays aren’t in place for the masses to soak-up the picture quality at 4k. Its been a fascinating debate all the same.

By: wsmith

wsmith — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:50:07 +0000

I’m convinced that Canon only made the camera 4K capable is to allow the shake to be removed from shaky footage and still have usable 1080p (or 720p) footage. Especially footage shot at any distance.

Canon is not making the 1DC for film production. It’s for photo-journalist work in dangerous places and shaky footage.

By: Chris

Chris — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 10:55:38 +0000

Shane Hurlbuts ISO test could have been really boring but I couldn’t stop watching that model, he’s a genius and that model the sexiest creature on earth, wow!

By: Grey

Grey — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 06:16:59 +0000

Maybe when Canon allows it to record a compressed raw format like what RED does with REDCODE, then it will be :)

But the price is still out of reach for most people as well even in this form…

By: Is Canon Producing a Truly Budget Cinema EOS Camera in a 7D Sized Body? - NoFilmSchool

Fri, 28 Dec 2012 03:31:44 +0000

[...] With the release of the Canon 1D C just around the corner, I think this is an interesting rumor, especially since many believe that camera and the C100 are both overpriced for their capabilities. Canon has a huge hole in their product line to compete with the Blackmagic Cinema Camera from a budget standpoint, so it would not surprise me if Canon was working on something else to slot right in there with better image quality than the 5D Mark III. That camera is still a photography camera first, and what Canon is missing is a camera like the BMCC that comprises on certain aspects but doesn’t compromise on image quality. [...]

By: Iain Philpott

Iain Philpott — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 01:15:04 +0000

Don’t doubt. I shoot Epic for stills with motion. This is a way cheaper alternative. It’s looking good to me – not for everything but it is looking good. Dragon needs to majorly step up the game to remain in the DSMC marketplace. I shoot for some pretty serious people but the cost of shooting Epic in terms of it’s weight when kitted to shoot means we are on a Fisher with a Dolly Grip. I can shoot with the 5D all by myself and one assistant on a Kessler Pod and Mini Jib. Bottom line on all of this if RED want’s to break into mainstream ‘owner operator’ stills territory (who are so used to the Canon workflow) they have still to reduce prices in what kit supports the main kit or just roll over and accept that Canon/Nikon/Phase are not far behind offering a DSMC solution (that I do not dispute RED invented) that just whips their butt’s.
Interesting times that 6 months ago I would have put all my money on RED. Now I’m not so sure. Give me a 1DC that shoots compressed RAW (similar to RED’s compressed format) and then I’m super happy.

By: Is Canon’s 4K DSLR, the 1D C, the Perfect Hybrid Photo/Video Camera? - NoFilmSchool | CINE DIGITAL ...TIPS, TECNOLOGIA & EQUIPO, CINEMA, CAMERAS | Scoop.it

Thu, 27 Dec 2012 23:47:33 +0000

[...] A lot of the talk around the 1D C has been the somewhat high price for a camera that has only a slight advantage in specs compared to the 1D X, which is far [...]

By: Rabi

Rabi — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 22:12:46 +0000

Newspaper shooters are used to having to shoot both video and stills at one event, and for them frame grabbing is a really attractive idea. The problem, though, is shutter speed. If you’re shooting with a 180 degree shutter you’ll be at 1/50 or 1/60. This is just too slow to shoot moving subjects.

By: Canon 1DC – the professional 4K (H)DSLR ad » cinema5D news

Canon 1DC – the professional 4K (H)DSLR ad » cinema5D news — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:29:02 +0000

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By: Nate O

Nate O — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:39:58 +0000

There is uncompressed out to bypass the compression. As much as I hate 8-bit and desperately wish Canon would move up to at least 10-bit if not 12/14 this camera is going to see use on feature films. Its 1D X on steroids, and yes I do believe Canon bolstered up the internals, 4096×2160 frames at 24 frames per second could melt allot of cheap internals Canon might try and get away with on a few parts of the 1D X’s internals (not that the 1D X by any means is a slouch when it comes to ruggedness). If you can do a professional film out from a Canon 5D Mk.II’s even worse compression (Act of Valor) then you can do allot more with a 4:2:2 color space and other features.

By: Joe Marine

Joe Marine — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:04:08 +0000

Of course you can pull stills, but using this as a stills camera doesn’t make any sense, especially because of the form factor which would require you to keep it locked down on a tripod or risk tons of motion blur. I’m not saying you can’t use this camera in lots of different situations, but after using it, I know it’s going to fight you in certain instances where you would have been better off using a different tool.

By: marklondon

marklondon — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 15:15:21 +0000

Let me put it another way – could you shoot video, and pull stills for a tablet magazine from the BMDCC? Sure. In travel or fashion that’s a winner right there. Its certainly something worth exploring. I bet there are a few DNGs from the Mexico shoot that look amazing – and the model stuff from John Brawley you could have made an effective stills shoot from.