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	<title>Comments on: Choosing Neutral Density Filters with Infrared Protection: Necessary or Overboard?</title>
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		<title>By: Canon C100 and C500 ND Filter/Sensor Dust Prevention Improvement Now Available for the C300 - NoFilmSchool</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/choosing-neutral-density-filters-infrared/comment-page-1/#comment-348862</link>
		<dc:creator>Canon C100 and C500 ND Filter/Sensor Dust Prevention Improvement Now Available for the C300 - NoFilmSchool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] inside the Canon C100/C300/C500 are actually very specific to the cameras themselves, and they do a good job of blocking out infrared light, which starts to appear more with regular cameras as you block out visible light. It seems Canon [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] inside the Canon C100/C300/C500 are actually very specific to the cameras themselves, and they do a good job of blocking out infrared light, which starts to appear more with regular cameras as you block out visible light. It seems Canon [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blackmagic Cinema Camera, RED EPIC, and Arri Alexa RAW Camera Test Part 1: IR Pollution - NoFilmSchool</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/choosing-neutral-density-filters-infrared/comment-page-1/#comment-326910</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackmagic Cinema Camera, RED EPIC, and Arri Alexa RAW Camera Test Part 1: IR Pollution - NoFilmSchool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] light, but let in more infrared light which can pollute the image. We&#8217;ve seen a few examples showing what IR pollution can do, and today, we have a video comparing RAW cameras, specifically the Blackmagic Cinema Camera, Arri [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] light, but let in more infrared light which can pollute the image. We&#8217;ve seen a few examples showing what IR pollution can do, and today, we have a video comparing RAW cameras, specifically the Blackmagic Cinema Camera, Arri [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/choosing-neutral-density-filters-infrared/comment-page-1/#comment-296262</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I use an IR/ND filter on my EX3.  Without it on hot days, skin tones have a funky fake looking tan.  Other things started to turn organe.  I&#039;d hate to fix that pollution in post so I opt for the quick camera fix...even if I lose a stop.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use an IR/ND filter on my EX3.  Without it on hot days, skin tones have a funky fake looking tan.  Other things started to turn organe.  I&#8217;d hate to fix that pollution in post so I opt for the quick camera fix&#8230;even if I lose a stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan E. Walters</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/choosing-neutral-density-filters-infrared/comment-page-1/#comment-294356</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan E. Walters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 21:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you seriously like the BMCC sans protection? (I&#039;m honstly asking, not being disrespectful.) Check out 2:45 of the first video - the blacks are bright purple. According to Micth the BMCC needs IR potection almost straight out of the gate. (With low levels of IR.) If this is an effect you like, or don&#039;t mind that is one thing. Accurate and precise colors are a different issue.

Even with RAW images IR is still a problem if your goal is accurate colors and skin tones at the end of the process. I have 5k RAW files available for download here if you want to play with them for yourself: http://www.ryanewalters.com/Blog/blog.php?id=4094508292434585142

The problem these days, and demonstrated well in the video examples, is that different cameras need different solutions. If you only use one system, then only one solution is needed. I use multiple systems, so I&#039;m looking into solutions that work a cross multiple camera systems ... Lots to figure out on this end, and there doesn&#039;t seem to be any one answer for everything unfortunately ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you seriously like the BMCC sans protection? (I&#8217;m honstly asking, not being disrespectful.) Check out 2:45 of the first video &#8211; the blacks are bright purple. According to Micth the BMCC needs IR potection almost straight out of the gate. (With low levels of IR.) If this is an effect you like, or don&#8217;t mind that is one thing. Accurate and precise colors are a different issue.</p>
<p>Even with RAW images IR is still a problem if your goal is accurate colors and skin tones at the end of the process. I have 5k RAW files available for download here if you want to play with them for yourself: <a href="http://www.ryanewalters.com/Blog/blog.php?id=4094508292434585142" rel="nofollow">http://www.ryanewalters.com/Blog/blog.php?id=4094508292434585142</a></p>
<p>The problem these days, and demonstrated well in the video examples, is that different cameras need different solutions. If you only use one system, then only one solution is needed. I use multiple systems, so I&#8217;m looking into solutions that work a cross multiple camera systems &#8230; Lots to figure out on this end, and there doesn&#8217;t seem to be any one answer for everything unfortunately &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Watson</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/choosing-neutral-density-filters-infrared/comment-page-1/#comment-293683</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 23:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IR is definitely a problem area.  I first encountered it with the Sony F-35 with 12 stops ND in front of the lens.  This was before IR filters were standard filters as they are now.  The leaves on the trees went brown.  The only fix was to use the built in ND wheel on the Sony, just like the old time video cameras had and some new cameras still have.  The internal ND wheel  also blocked the IR.  Worth a try if you have that style camera.  I also ran into this on some accidentally underexposed Canon 7D footage.  It can&#039;t be fixed in color correction, just manipulated a bit.
So, great, informative video.  IR will surprise you if your don&#039;t prepare for it.  Thanks!
Best to you and to all on your projects.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IR is definitely a problem area.  I first encountered it with the Sony F-35 with 12 stops ND in front of the lens.  This was before IR filters were standard filters as they are now.  The leaves on the trees went brown.  The only fix was to use the built in ND wheel on the Sony, just like the old time video cameras had and some new cameras still have.  The internal ND wheel  also blocked the IR.  Worth a try if you have that style camera.  I also ran into this on some accidentally underexposed Canon 7D footage.  It can&#8217;t be fixed in color correction, just manipulated a bit.<br />
So, great, informative video.  IR will surprise you if your don&#8217;t prepare for it.  Thanks!<br />
Best to you and to all on your projects.</p>
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		<title>By: RED Dragon Unleashes Its First Image, and SCARLET Camera Gets an Upgrade Path - NoFilmSchool</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/choosing-neutral-density-filters-infrared/comment-page-1/#comment-292630</link>
		<dc:creator>RED Dragon Unleashes Its First Image, and SCARLET Camera Gets an Upgrade Path - NoFilmSchool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 07:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Jarred Land added later that the Dragon will be getting a brand new IR OLPF, so the issues many have been having because of IR pollution with heavy ND filtering and the MX sensor may be a thing of the past. This is essential as the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jarred Land added later that the Dragon will be getting a brand new IR OLPF, so the issues many have been having because of IR pollution with heavy ND filtering and the MX sensor may be a thing of the past. This is essential as the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DIYFilmSchool.net</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/choosing-neutral-density-filters-infrared/comment-page-1/#comment-292247</link>
		<dc:creator>DIYFilmSchool.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 18:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So far, I&#039;ve had no problem with this issue. It&#039;s nice to see people considering it, but I don&#039;t think I&#039;m going to spend a lot of my time worrying about infrared light.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far, I&#8217;ve had no problem with this issue. It&#8217;s nice to see people considering it, but I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m going to spend a lot of my time worrying about infrared light.</p>
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		<title>By: LostFeliz</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/choosing-neutral-density-filters-infrared/comment-page-1/#comment-292206</link>
		<dc:creator>LostFeliz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 17:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe the 5diii has a built in IR filter. I wonder if it&#039;s the same as the ones on the cinema cameras. Just starting to shop for filters for my Tamron 24-70 and was considering the need for IR on the NDs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the 5diii has a built in IR filter. I wonder if it&#8217;s the same as the ones on the cinema cameras. Just starting to shop for filters for my Tamron 24-70 and was considering the need for IR on the NDs.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard van den Boogaard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard van den Boogaard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 13:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was thrilled to see Canon clearly has decided to fix this &quot;in-camera&quot;, which is always preferable to fixing it in post. Since C300 and C100 have an identical codec as C500, these are truly good working tools.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thrilled to see Canon clearly has decided to fix this &#8220;in-camera&#8221;, which is always preferable to fixing it in post. Since C300 and C100 have an identical codec as C500, these are truly good working tools.</p>
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		<title>By: hansd</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/choosing-neutral-density-filters-infrared/comment-page-1/#comment-291974</link>
		<dc:creator>hansd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[don&#039;t panic people :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t panic people :)</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/choosing-neutral-density-filters-infrared/comment-page-1/#comment-291906</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 05:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow!!!!!.......... After 4 freaking months not knowing what the hell was happening to the movie I&#039;m editing. Finally the best answer.

THANKS SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!
5 stars to Abelcine and NFS!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!!!!!&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. After 4 freaking months not knowing what the hell was happening to the movie I&#8217;m editing. Finally the best answer.</p>
<p>THANKS SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!<br />
5 stars to Abelcine and NFS!!</p>
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		<title>By: ThunderBolt</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/choosing-neutral-density-filters-infrared/comment-page-1/#comment-291902</link>
		<dc:creator>ThunderBolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 05:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Filters are a good thing. Protect your glass, protect you ass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Filters are a good thing. Protect your glass, protect you ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/choosing-neutral-density-filters-infrared/comment-page-1/#comment-291884</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 03:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why surprised about the Canons? The C100/300/500 all have a hot mirror-style IR filter built in between the lens mount and the ND filters, and it serves to seal all that works so your NDs and sensor don&#039;t get dirty. No need to worry about this or a lot of other things it all just works.

The Canons are very well designed and implemented. I get a kick out of people who hate on them. But at least we&#039;re all not shooting on the same camera.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why surprised about the Canons? The C100/300/500 all have a hot mirror-style IR filter built in between the lens mount and the ND filters, and it serves to seal all that works so your NDs and sensor don&#8217;t get dirty. No need to worry about this or a lot of other things it all just works.</p>
<p>The Canons are very well designed and implemented. I get a kick out of people who hate on them. But at least we&#8217;re all not shooting on the same camera.</p>
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		<title>By: Libby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Libby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 01:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you. This first video is excellent and explains a lot of things for me,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you. This first video is excellent and explains a lot of things for me,</p>
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