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		<title>By: Michael Prestage</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/kodak-not-down-yet-announces-super-8mm-stock/comment-page-2/#comment-341381</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Prestage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 01:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This 50D for small format cinematography is great news for the many still-loyal film shooters out there, and there are many. Just try buying a decent Super 8 or 16mm camera on Ebay, only to discover that there are a number of other interested parties, usually with more than sufficient funds to ruin your day!

I&#039;ve already gotten hold of several rolls of 50D, and I can&#039;t wait to try it out. HD scans of of properly shot Super 8 footage burned to Blu-Ray can yield amazing results on 16x9 TVs. 

Never mind nostalgia, FILM is still the highest resolution capture format in existence. For dynamic range and color gamut, film leaves even high-end DSLR sensors in the dust. Thanks to the mass exodus of mid-tier filmmakers to embrace digital, even once astronomically-priced 35mm motion picture cameras are now within reach of aspiring FILMmakers everywhere.

For mere hundreds, not tens of thousands, I was able to purchase a perfectly-functioning 35mm camera, along with 5 accompanying lenses.  For a mere fraction of the cost of a pricey HD cam or DSLR, I&#039;m finally realizing my long-time dream of shooting 35mm footage. Presently, I&#039;m stocking up on low-cost Kodak and Fuji motion pictures stocks that are readily available via Craigslist &amp; Ebay, in preparation for shooting my first micro-budgeted feature.

For those who have always dreamt of shooting the real thing, a rare window of opportunity has opened up that may not stay open very long. Take the plunge. The sheer exhilaration of hearing that film racing through the camera is something that simple words cannot express. If you&#039;re bored of running with the pixelated pack, see what Welles, Ford, Peckinpah and Kubrick found so utterly intoxicating.

Film might just be the fix you&#039;re looking for...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This 50D for small format cinematography is great news for the many still-loyal film shooters out there, and there are many. Just try buying a decent Super 8 or 16mm camera on Ebay, only to discover that there are a number of other interested parties, usually with more than sufficient funds to ruin your day!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve already gotten hold of several rolls of 50D, and I can&#8217;t wait to try it out. HD scans of of properly shot Super 8 footage burned to Blu-Ray can yield amazing results on 16&#215;9 TVs. </p>
<p>Never mind nostalgia, FILM is still the highest resolution capture format in existence. For dynamic range and color gamut, film leaves even high-end DSLR sensors in the dust. Thanks to the mass exodus of mid-tier filmmakers to embrace digital, even once astronomically-priced 35mm motion picture cameras are now within reach of aspiring FILMmakers everywhere.</p>
<p>For mere hundreds, not tens of thousands, I was able to purchase a perfectly-functioning 35mm camera, along with 5 accompanying lenses.  For a mere fraction of the cost of a pricey HD cam or DSLR, I&#8217;m finally realizing my long-time dream of shooting 35mm footage. Presently, I&#8217;m stocking up on low-cost Kodak and Fuji motion pictures stocks that are readily available via Craigslist &amp; Ebay, in preparation for shooting my first micro-budgeted feature.</p>
<p>For those who have always dreamt of shooting the real thing, a rare window of opportunity has opened up that may not stay open very long. Take the plunge. The sheer exhilaration of hearing that film racing through the camera is something that simple words cannot express. If you&#8217;re bored of running with the pixelated pack, see what Welles, Ford, Peckinpah and Kubrick found so utterly intoxicating.</p>
<p>Film might just be the fix you&#8217;re looking for&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whilst this new stock is a good thing, its a real shame Kodak never made a decent attempt to market reversal colour properly for years. People remained in dis-belief that such a thing still existed in the last decade until i turned up with the stuff and filmed with it. When you look at the clever marketing behind &#039;lomography&#039; I really think its a shame that Kodak missed a trick. Now that colour-reversal is gone, i really dont think i am ever going to use this negative stuff - its just too expensive to get onto a screen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst this new stock is a good thing, its a real shame Kodak never made a decent attempt to market reversal colour properly for years. People remained in dis-belief that such a thing still existed in the last decade until i turned up with the stuff and filmed with it. When you look at the clever marketing behind &#8216;lomography&#8217; I really think its a shame that Kodak missed a trick. Now that colour-reversal is gone, i really dont think i am ever going to use this negative stuff &#8211; its just too expensive to get onto a screen.</p>
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		<title>By: New Lomography Kickstarter Makes Your Smartphone a Mobile Film Scanner - NoFilmSchool</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/kodak-not-down-yet-announces-super-8mm-stock/comment-page-2/#comment-301684</link>
		<dc:creator>New Lomography Kickstarter Makes Your Smartphone a Mobile Film Scanner - NoFilmSchool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] come from, calling something like Lomography &#8220;the analog Instagram&#8221; is like calling Kodak&#8217;s new Super 8 stock &#8220;the chemical MiniDV,&#8221; or even better, &#8220;the new digital from back before [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] come from, calling something like Lomography &#8220;the analog Instagram&#8221; is like calling Kodak&#8217;s new Super 8 stock &#8220;the chemical MiniDV,&#8221; or even better, &#8220;the new digital from back before [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RR thomas</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/kodak-not-down-yet-announces-super-8mm-stock/comment-page-2/#comment-284689</link>
		<dc:creator>RR thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 22:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[cinegrain is a nice alternative, not as good as kodak but still a good option]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cinegrain is a nice alternative, not as good as kodak but still a good option</p>
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		<title>By: Will Film Actually Die? &#124; &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Film Actually Die? &#124; &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] This all got me thinking. In a recent post, I talk about taking an average shoot and trying to make it unique. The other day I was looking at a project and thought to myself &#8220;man, it would be cool to try and shoot that on film&#8221;. It dawned on me that the video/film production world is, like most things, a cyclical world. Take a look at the resurgence of Super 8mm film: Kodak just announced a new Super 8mm film stock for the masses. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This all got me thinking. In a recent post, I talk about taking an average shoot and trying to make it unique. The other day I was looking at a project and thought to myself &#8220;man, it would be cool to try and shoot that on film&#8221;. It dawned on me that the video/film production world is, like most things, a cyclical world. Take a look at the resurgence of Super 8mm film: Kodak just announced a new Super 8mm film stock for the masses. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/kodak-not-down-yet-announces-super-8mm-stock/comment-page-2/#comment-283996</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, folks,a brief moment of reflection would allow you to notice that Vision 500 is an EXISTING neg stock in 35 &amp; 16mm, so slitting it down and perforating it with existing S8 production facilities IS actually a cost effective way of introducing a &quot;new&quot; S8 stock. 

Color reversal stocks are gone, but Kodak is wisely making the best of a bad situation in this instance. 

I thought myself a few weeks ago that they were finished, but when they announced their willingness to spin-off the film division from the parent company, hope was renewed. 

How, or why,  the continuation of film profoundly disturbs some people is a total mystery to me.   Film will stand or fall on its own econonomic and aesthetic merits, but to paint this simplistically as an issue of nostalgia and technophobia is absurd. 

The most skilled technicians I know value both film and digital and are highly skilled in both mediums. They produce &quot;moving images&quot; and don&#039;t bring the level of discourse down to fashionable techno-bashing, but use the tool that works the best to deliver their message to the masses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, folks,a brief moment of reflection would allow you to notice that Vision 500 is an EXISTING neg stock in 35 &amp; 16mm, so slitting it down and perforating it with existing S8 production facilities IS actually a cost effective way of introducing a &#8220;new&#8221; S8 stock. </p>
<p>Color reversal stocks are gone, but Kodak is wisely making the best of a bad situation in this instance. </p>
<p>I thought myself a few weeks ago that they were finished, but when they announced their willingness to spin-off the film division from the parent company, hope was renewed. </p>
<p>How, or why,  the continuation of film profoundly disturbs some people is a total mystery to me.   Film will stand or fall on its own econonomic and aesthetic merits, but to paint this simplistically as an issue of nostalgia and technophobia is absurd. </p>
<p>The most skilled technicians I know value both film and digital and are highly skilled in both mediums. They produce &#8220;moving images&#8221; and don&#8217;t bring the level of discourse down to fashionable techno-bashing, but use the tool that works the best to deliver their message to the masses.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It may be inevitable, but the demise of film is sad. It&#039;s as if watercolor paint was slipping away - forever. Tarantino recently announced that he&#039;d prefer to quit filmmaking then be forced into digital. And I can kind of see why.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be inevitable, but the demise of film is sad. It&#8217;s as if watercolor paint was slipping away &#8211; forever. Tarantino recently announced that he&#8217;d prefer to quit filmmaking then be forced into digital. And I can kind of see why.</p>
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		<title>By: Predrag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Predrag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can understand how many film stock fans can be sensitive (and perhaps a bit defensive) on the subject of film dying out. Frankly, what Martin said was not really bashing film (nor those who use it); he was just stating the fairly obvious (practical advantages of digital, that more than make up for the artistic advantages of film). I don&#039;t believe anyone here is arguing the film&#039;s bright and long future. Even the most emotional defenders of the medium concede that there are probably only a few good years left for the medium.

Right now, for me, the only significant major advantage of the medium (over digital) is its latitude. You can comfortably over- and under-expose film without losing visual information. In other words, the dynamic range gives you much more room for maneuvering in situations with strong contrast. Digital sensors simply aren&#039;t yet there. Otherwise, the sheer number of pixels, and their individual bit depth, allow for so much detail in the visual information that you can manipulate that image into anything you want.

For Kodak, being on the ropes, introducing another film stock (and especially Super-8) today clearly means that this is not a strategic, long play. For Super 8 fans out there, it is a wonderful moment. Still the reality remains, and it is that not many years down the road, we&#039;ll all be nostalgically reminiscing of the technology, workflow, obstacles, frustrations, as well as the artistic gratification that film used to give.

Vinyl seems to have stayed alive despite the practicality of CD (and subsequent digital formats). I&#039;m not quite sure, though that Super 8 (or any other film format, for that matter) will be able to avoid the ultimate fate. In order for vinyl to remain viable, all that was necessary was some vinyl press to stay in business. Turntables are still alive, and few makers still make them (it is quite cheap to do it), and some demand remains for the format. With film, in addition to some Kodak of this world (that would continue making it), one would need some lab to continue to process it, and that represents the level of inconvenience that will be difficult to justify, just for the sake of keeping the format alive.

We have all been observing the enormously rapid pace of advance of digital image acquisition technology (think back only five years -- the emergence of AVCHD, for example). It is obvious that the pace won&#039;t slow down. It makes sense to expect the digital imaging devices to continue to increase pixel count, and, hopefully, the dynamic range (the only serious disadvantage vs. the film). In parallel, the computing devices will continue to make digital video less and less of a CPU burden, storage will continue to get less expensive and more accessible, and, most likely, all current perceived advantages of film will be erased. There is no reason to doubt that the pace of changes would significantly slow down. Therefore, the realistic expected life of film as a medium caon&#039;t be too long. Single-digits, most likely (in years).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand how many film stock fans can be sensitive (and perhaps a bit defensive) on the subject of film dying out. Frankly, what Martin said was not really bashing film (nor those who use it); he was just stating the fairly obvious (practical advantages of digital, that more than make up for the artistic advantages of film). I don&#8217;t believe anyone here is arguing the film&#8217;s bright and long future. Even the most emotional defenders of the medium concede that there are probably only a few good years left for the medium.</p>
<p>Right now, for me, the only significant major advantage of the medium (over digital) is its latitude. You can comfortably over- and under-expose film without losing visual information. In other words, the dynamic range gives you much more room for maneuvering in situations with strong contrast. Digital sensors simply aren&#8217;t yet there. Otherwise, the sheer number of pixels, and their individual bit depth, allow for so much detail in the visual information that you can manipulate that image into anything you want.</p>
<p>For Kodak, being on the ropes, introducing another film stock (and especially Super-8) today clearly means that this is not a strategic, long play. For Super 8 fans out there, it is a wonderful moment. Still the reality remains, and it is that not many years down the road, we&#8217;ll all be nostalgically reminiscing of the technology, workflow, obstacles, frustrations, as well as the artistic gratification that film used to give.</p>
<p>Vinyl seems to have stayed alive despite the practicality of CD (and subsequent digital formats). I&#8217;m not quite sure, though that Super 8 (or any other film format, for that matter) will be able to avoid the ultimate fate. In order for vinyl to remain viable, all that was necessary was some vinyl press to stay in business. Turntables are still alive, and few makers still make them (it is quite cheap to do it), and some demand remains for the format. With film, in addition to some Kodak of this world (that would continue making it), one would need some lab to continue to process it, and that represents the level of inconvenience that will be difficult to justify, just for the sake of keeping the format alive.</p>
<p>We have all been observing the enormously rapid pace of advance of digital image acquisition technology (think back only five years &#8212; the emergence of AVCHD, for example). It is obvious that the pace won&#8217;t slow down. It makes sense to expect the digital imaging devices to continue to increase pixel count, and, hopefully, the dynamic range (the only serious disadvantage vs. the film). In parallel, the computing devices will continue to make digital video less and less of a CPU burden, storage will continue to get less expensive and more accessible, and, most likely, all current perceived advantages of film will be erased. There is no reason to doubt that the pace of changes would significantly slow down. Therefore, the realistic expected life of film as a medium caon&#8217;t be too long. Single-digits, most likely (in years).</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Besides having more colours and making a variety of skin tones all look beautiful without much work, film has a few practical benefits.  
Only a little while ago a client whose music video I made with 8mm film contacted me desperately because his hard drive crashed and the tape backup of his video had gone north (magnetically speaking). Fortunately I still had the camera originals which he had rescanned to HD to redo his music video.
If you would like to see what 8mm film can look like with out the scratches and jumps ect go to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-M-n8objeA&amp;feature=share&amp;list=UUmLD708Vo9SUXldsKV7EzzQ
This video of the Egyptian museum was shot entirely on a variety of Kodak 8mm film stocks and transferred to DVCAM. In 2003 HDV or HD for small operators was not a viable option then. 
The beauty of having your origination on film is that it can  be rescanned to HD today. 
Yes it is more expensive initially and can be quite scary to work with at first but I would hate to see it gone forever]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides having more colours and making a variety of skin tones all look beautiful without much work, film has a few practical benefits.<br />
Only a little while ago a client whose music video I made with 8mm film contacted me desperately because his hard drive crashed and the tape backup of his video had gone north (magnetically speaking). Fortunately I still had the camera originals which he had rescanned to HD to redo his music video.<br />
If you would like to see what 8mm film can look like with out the scratches and jumps ect go to<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-M-n8objeA&#038;feature=share&#038;list=UUmLD708Vo9SUXldsKV7EzzQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-M-n8objeA&#038;feature=share&#038;list=UUmLD708Vo9SUXldsKV7EzzQ</a><br />
This video of the Egyptian museum was shot entirely on a variety of Kodak 8mm film stocks and transferred to DVCAM. In 2003 HDV or HD for small operators was not a viable option then.<br />
The beauty of having your origination on film is that it can  be rescanned to HD today.<br />
Yes it is more expensive initially and can be quite scary to work with at first but I would hate to see it gone forever</p>
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		<title>By: gillian</title>
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		<dc:creator>gillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yesssssssssssssssssss!
Kodak we love you!
I&#039;ll be using it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yesssssssssssssssssss!<br />
Kodak we love you!<br />
I&#8217;ll be using it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kodak Not Down for the Count Yet, Announces a New Super 8mm Stock to Prove It. By Joe Marine &#124; Digital Cinema Tools &#124; Scoop.it</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kodak Not Down for the Count Yet, Announces a New Super 8mm Stock to Prove It. By Joe Marine &#124; Digital Cinema Tools &#124; Scoop.it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: William Karl Thomas</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/kodak-not-down-yet-announces-super-8mm-stock/comment-page-2/#comment-282529</link>
		<dc:creator>William Karl Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 04:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ooooops!  that shold have been:  http://www.mediamaestro.net/equipment.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooooops!  that shold have been:  <a href="http://www.mediamaestro.net/equipment.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mediamaestro.net/equipment.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: William Karl Thomas</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/kodak-not-down-yet-announces-super-8mm-stock/comment-page-2/#comment-282528</link>
		<dc:creator>William Karl Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 04:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although only the most sophisticated technicians and artists are aware of or fully appreciate it, the inescapable distinction between film and digital is the random size and positioning of silver particals as opposed to the well ordered mapping of pixels in rows and columns.  However, the more sensitive viewer will subliminally recognize the random pattern as real and the well ordered pixels as artificial.  As a photo interpreter analyzing aerial photos of possible enemy encampments, those with truly random camouflage patterns looked like a real forrest, while those with poor or no camouflage stood out like a sore thumb and were easily targeted and destroyed.  We may not be concious of the distinction, but our brains and our &quot;gut&quot; tell us that film images are more &#039;real&#039; than digital images.  Costs more in materials and learning curve, but for those who&#039;ll go the extra mile to get a little closer to perfection, film will always be around.
Also:
Cine equipment that&#039;s cheaper than pro houses and costlier (but much more reliable) than yard sales:
http://www.mediamestro.net/equipment.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although only the most sophisticated technicians and artists are aware of or fully appreciate it, the inescapable distinction between film and digital is the random size and positioning of silver particals as opposed to the well ordered mapping of pixels in rows and columns.  However, the more sensitive viewer will subliminally recognize the random pattern as real and the well ordered pixels as artificial.  As a photo interpreter analyzing aerial photos of possible enemy encampments, those with truly random camouflage patterns looked like a real forrest, while those with poor or no camouflage stood out like a sore thumb and were easily targeted and destroyed.  We may not be concious of the distinction, but our brains and our &#8220;gut&#8221; tell us that film images are more &#8216;real&#8217; than digital images.  Costs more in materials and learning curve, but for those who&#8217;ll go the extra mile to get a little closer to perfection, film will always be around.<br />
Also:<br />
Cine equipment that&#8217;s cheaper than pro houses and costlier (but much more reliable) than yard sales:<br />
<a href="http://www.mediamestro.net/equipment.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mediamestro.net/equipment.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gus Frederick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gus Frederick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 00:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome news! As one who cut his teeth on Super 8, this is great! I have several S8 cameras, rigged for time-lapse, (using windshield wiper delays and(or) a dedicated Minolta intervelometer). These are great for time-lapse work, where the &lt;3 minute running time roll is not as big an issue. Can&#039;t wait to hack my Eumig projector...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome news! As one who cut his teeth on Super 8, this is great! I have several S8 cameras, rigged for time-lapse, (using windshield wiper delays and(or) a dedicated Minolta intervelometer). These are great for time-lapse work, where the &lt;3 minute running time roll is not as big an issue. Can&#039;t wait to hack my Eumig projector&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Muulen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Muulen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 00:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This year I bought a Bolex and projector. Sold the projector and bought a telecine unit. Now i can convert family 8mm films (going back to the 1950&#039;s), plus my 8mm and Super8 films. Then I plan to open a conversion service (&quot;film2files&quot;) that does frame-by-frame transfer to ProRes 422 onto SDHC cards.

The problem Kodak and other Super8 companies and I face is that there are few ways to let the younger &quot;digital&quot; generation know about low-cost film techniques and services. For example, I could write an eBook on shooting film, but marketing it in our digital world would be very hard.

Since there are few discussions of film -- congratulation for posting this good news -- few people know about it, and so each year less film is shot. Really, nothing looks like film, especially Super8. It has a unique esthetic -- as all those who posted they were using film are well aware of.

Lastly, shooting film does not mean you don&#039;t also shoot digital movies.
Steve Mullen]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This year I bought a Bolex and projector. Sold the projector and bought a telecine unit. Now i can convert family 8mm films (going back to the 1950&#8242;s), plus my 8mm and Super8 films. Then I plan to open a conversion service (&#8220;film2files&#8221;) that does frame-by-frame transfer to ProRes 422 onto SDHC cards.</p>
<p>The problem Kodak and other Super8 companies and I face is that there are few ways to let the younger &#8220;digital&#8221; generation know about low-cost film techniques and services. For example, I could write an eBook on shooting film, but marketing it in our digital world would be very hard.</p>
<p>Since there are few discussions of film &#8212; congratulation for posting this good news &#8212; few people know about it, and so each year less film is shot. Really, nothing looks like film, especially Super8. It has a unique esthetic &#8212; as all those who posted they were using film are well aware of.</p>
<p>Lastly, shooting film does not mean you don&#8217;t also shoot digital movies.<br />
Steve Mullen</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Thompson</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/kodak-not-down-yet-announces-super-8mm-stock/comment-page-1/#comment-282426</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 23:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really don&#039;t get this release, how come Kodak aren&#039;t using its many patents to create some thing to the digital era? Every kid out there wants a DSLR ..... I&#039;m sure many would love to play with 8mm but the developing is the issue.... Kids today don&#039;t have that kind a patience lol,

And I&#039;m sure they think it would be easier to shoot digital and run it through magic bullet any way]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t get this release, how come Kodak aren&#8217;t using its many patents to create some thing to the digital era? Every kid out there wants a DSLR &#8230;.. I&#8217;m sure many would love to play with 8mm but the developing is the issue&#8230;. Kids today don&#8217;t have that kind a patience lol,</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m sure they think it would be easier to shoot digital and run it through magic bullet any way</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 23:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No use for it my self Digital gets better every month And I like the digital look when done properly. 
for me film is pretty much dead. It&#039;s all in the lighting. Just using film it will not make it look like a movie. We all know or should know that the lighting is the thing that gives the depth and texture people associate with the movies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No use for it my self Digital gets better every month And I like the digital look when done properly.<br />
for me film is pretty much dead. It&#8217;s all in the lighting. Just using film it will not make it look like a movie. We all know or should know that the lighting is the thing that gives the depth and texture people associate with the movies.</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Blais</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/kodak-not-down-yet-announces-super-8mm-stock/comment-page-1/#comment-282403</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre Blais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 22:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Canada, Niagra film labs in Toronto processes vision 3 stocks in super 8, and they still print 16mm, also a bunch of other services, and they quite affordable, with student discounts, and various discount association with filmaking groups around Canada. 

you can also process by hand btw... I do this quite often. Of course you won&#039;t get the clean pristine film result of a lab, specially not on your first try, but I manage to get very good result. C-41 color process is easy and relatively cheap to get and is very similar to the the cine equivalent used by labs, you just have to get dirty and remove the protective backing at the end...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Canada, Niagra film labs in Toronto processes vision 3 stocks in super 8, and they still print 16mm, also a bunch of other services, and they quite affordable, with student discounts, and various discount association with filmaking groups around Canada. </p>
<p>you can also process by hand btw&#8230; I do this quite often. Of course you won&#8217;t get the clean pristine film result of a lab, specially not on your first try, but I manage to get very good result. C-41 color process is easy and relatively cheap to get and is very similar to the the cine equivalent used by labs, you just have to get dirty and remove the protective backing at the end&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Blais</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/kodak-not-down-yet-announces-super-8mm-stock/comment-page-1/#comment-282395</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre Blais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 22:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank you are absolutly right. I work with both medium regularly and am glad to see I have a bit more choice, although I rarely use super8 anymore, except for artistic or home movie (yes home movie, I refuse to film any family archive digitally, as I know it will disapear in a hard drive and I will never look at it). Print is dead, Kodak needs to realize that and drastically reduce it&#039;s production in that sense, but film aquisition still has a good few years left, not forever probably, but digital ironically opened up a world of possibilty for film with the DI workflow,  Scanning film offer a perfect image with the ease of the digital post-production workflow and delivery. As per Martin&#039;s point about digital being enviroment friedly, this could not be further from the truth! photo chemicals are actually quite green(relative to other industrial chems), and when recycled and disposed properly the footprint on the environment is minuscule, landfills however are filling up quickly on out of date camera&#039;s that &quot;expire&quot; after only 2-3 years, computers, hard drives, etc. far more damageable unfortunately.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank you are absolutly right. I work with both medium regularly and am glad to see I have a bit more choice, although I rarely use super8 anymore, except for artistic or home movie (yes home movie, I refuse to film any family archive digitally, as I know it will disapear in a hard drive and I will never look at it). Print is dead, Kodak needs to realize that and drastically reduce it&#8217;s production in that sense, but film aquisition still has a good few years left, not forever probably, but digital ironically opened up a world of possibilty for film with the DI workflow,  Scanning film offer a perfect image with the ease of the digital post-production workflow and delivery. As per Martin&#8217;s point about digital being enviroment friedly, this could not be further from the truth! photo chemicals are actually quite green(relative to other industrial chems), and when recycled and disposed properly the footprint on the environment is minuscule, landfills however are filling up quickly on out of date camera&#8217;s that &#8220;expire&#8221; after only 2-3 years, computers, hard drives, etc. far more damageable unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Blais</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2012/12/kodak-not-down-yet-announces-super-8mm-stock/comment-page-1/#comment-282392</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre Blais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 22:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[my bad, just got the news, oh well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my bad, just got the news, oh well.</p>
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