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		<title>By: Anton</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/apple-monitor-27-inch-display-monoprice/comment-page-1/#comment-304405</link>
		<dc:creator>Anton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hmmm...I would not trust these monitors if you do professional work. I got Dell Utrasharp 27&#039; and I love it. 700$ and you get it, it is more expensive than this Korean thingy, but I can rely on it. It is probably a better idea to save money on something else (transport, new gadget etc), but not the equipment...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm&#8230;I would not trust these monitors if you do professional work. I got Dell Utrasharp 27&#8242; and I love it. 700$ and you get it, it is more expensive than this Korean thingy, but I can rely on it. It is probably a better idea to save money on something else (transport, new gadget etc), but not the equipment&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Heiko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, there&#039;s the downside. To calibrate it as good as possible, a monitor should at least have RGB controls.

So these 300 bucks ebay monitors are just like any other 300 bucks monitor: okay for gaming or watching a movie, but when you do serious work, you will need something better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there&#8217;s the downside. To calibrate it as good as possible, a monitor should at least have RGB controls.</p>
<p>So these 300 bucks ebay monitors are just like any other 300 bucks monitor: okay for gaming or watching a movie, but when you do serious work, you will need something better.</p>
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		<title>By: Heiko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 23:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have an Apple 27&quot; cinema display at work and I know that at the time it was bought there was a Dell Ultrasharp 27&quot; with exactly the same panel, only with a non-reflective surface and for 200 Euros less.
Unfortunately it wasn&#039;t my decision to make at the time, so I got the Cinema Display... I would have taken the Dell instantly because I am using an older Dell 27&quot; at home and I like it a lot.

I would not be so sure with some Korean or Chinese product that uses the same panel - the monitor does not only need a panel, it also needs a driver and firmware and whatnot. I wouldn&#039;t be so sure to get decent quality from some no-name company.
Before I buy a monitor, I make sure I can calibrate it correctly - I need to rely on professional tests that can tell me if a monitor is good for photo editing. I don&#039;t get these tests for some no-name thing from ebay that might or might not be okay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an Apple 27&#8243; cinema display at work and I know that at the time it was bought there was a Dell Ultrasharp 27&#8243; with exactly the same panel, only with a non-reflective surface and for 200 Euros less.<br />
Unfortunately it wasn&#8217;t my decision to make at the time, so I got the Cinema Display&#8230; I would have taken the Dell instantly because I am using an older Dell 27&#8243; at home and I like it a lot.</p>
<p>I would not be so sure with some Korean or Chinese product that uses the same panel &#8211; the monitor does not only need a panel, it also needs a driver and firmware and whatnot. I wouldn&#8217;t be so sure to get decent quality from some no-name company.<br />
Before I buy a monitor, I make sure I can calibrate it correctly &#8211; I need to rely on professional tests that can tell me if a monitor is good for photo editing. I don&#8217;t get these tests for some no-name thing from ebay that might or might not be okay.</p>
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		<title>By: Third Party Manufacturers Offer Apple Panel Displays at a Discount</title>
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		<dc:creator>Third Party Manufacturers Offer Apple Panel Displays at a Discount</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ricky</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/apple-monitor-27-inch-display-monoprice/comment-page-1/#comment-302733</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yamakasi Catleap q270, I own one and its great!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yamakasi Catleap q270, I own one and its great!</p>
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		<title>By: Speaking of Apple&#8217;s Prices&#8230; Why Are They So Damn High? - NoFilmSchool</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/apple-monitor-27-inch-display-monoprice/comment-page-1/#comment-302517</link>
		<dc:creator>Speaking of Apple&#8217;s Prices&#8230; Why Are They So Damn High? - NoFilmSchool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] way out to how such pricing is so firmly set. And, in terms of sword metaphors, this is more often the kind that cuts a hole in your pocket than the kind that &#8220;slashes [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] way out to how such pricing is so firmly set. And, in terms of sword metaphors, this is more often the kind that cuts a hole in your pocket than the kind that &#8220;slashes [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ricky</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/apple-monitor-27-inch-display-monoprice/comment-page-1/#comment-302348</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 04:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These are identical to the Yamakasi Catleap q270 2560x1440 monitors that are exactly the same price and from Korea. Although you can get a Yamakasi one for 300$, but the 400$ version they inspect first.

I own one and its great, only problems:

1. You need more than 5 dead pixels to get a refund. So its a risk, although 98% of people buying them havent had issues. Mine came perfect. I assume the inspected version for an extra 100$ guarantees it comes without dead pixels

2. No control for contrast, saturation, etc. Only brightness and volume, but it looks pretty well balanced anyway. Not something Id use for fancy coloring, but it does the job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are identical to the Yamakasi Catleap q270 2560&#215;1440 monitors that are exactly the same price and from Korea. Although you can get a Yamakasi one for 300$, but the 400$ version they inspect first.</p>
<p>I own one and its great, only problems:</p>
<p>1. You need more than 5 dead pixels to get a refund. So its a risk, although 98% of people buying them havent had issues. Mine came perfect. I assume the inspected version for an extra 100$ guarantees it comes without dead pixels</p>
<p>2. No control for contrast, saturation, etc. Only brightness and volume, but it looks pretty well balanced anyway. Not something Id use for fancy coloring, but it does the job.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrey Valentsov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrey Valentsov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have the very same monitor and totally happy with it. Use it with my Mac Pro.

Wanna buy one more like this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have the very same monitor and totally happy with it. Use it with my Mac Pro.</p>
<p>Wanna buy one more like this.</p>
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		<title>By: mattiebatt</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/apple-monitor-27-inch-display-monoprice/comment-page-1/#comment-301993</link>
		<dc:creator>mattiebatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 19:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ok IPS panel = good. How well is the color technology? Let&#039;s be real here: Can we use one for Davinci and Photoshop? (I&#039;m not going to spend Thousands on external waveforms and Flanders monitors when I don&#039;t even make money yet doing color correction!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok IPS panel = good. How well is the color technology? Let&#8217;s be real here: Can we use one for Davinci and Photoshop? (I&#8217;m not going to spend Thousands on external waveforms and Flanders monitors when I don&#8217;t even make money yet doing color correction!)</p>
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		<title>By: Jaime</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/apple-monitor-27-inch-display-monoprice/comment-page-1/#comment-301814</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, thanks for the article. Important question, what is the refresh rate on this monitors? Refresh rate makes a big difference on quality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, thanks for the article. Important question, what is the refresh rate on this monitors? Refresh rate makes a big difference on quality.</p>
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		<title>By: I. A. M. Touchingcloth</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/apple-monitor-27-inch-display-monoprice/comment-page-1/#comment-301787</link>
		<dc:creator>I. A. M. Touchingcloth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I own a Shimian, Its awesome!  Better than my 24&quot; iMac, frankly at least in terms of backlight bleed. The only problem is that gaming is so sweet at 2560 lines that you want to run another video card to keep the settings maxed... so budget for it if you game on the same rig.  Some problems are not problems lol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own a Shimian, Its awesome!  Better than my 24&#8243; iMac, frankly at least in terms of backlight bleed. The only problem is that gaming is so sweet at 2560 lines that you want to run another video card to keep the settings maxed&#8230; so budget for it if you game on the same rig.  Some problems are not problems lol.</p>
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		<title>By: DIYFilmSchool.net</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/apple-monitor-27-inch-display-monoprice/comment-page-1/#comment-301784</link>
		<dc:creator>DIYFilmSchool.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any time I can save a few bucks and still get great results is a blessing in production. Not really happy with the DVI-only standard model, but it&#039;s headed in the right direction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any time I can save a few bucks and still get great results is a blessing in production. Not really happy with the DVI-only standard model, but it&#8217;s headed in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: hansd</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/apple-monitor-27-inch-display-monoprice/comment-page-1/#comment-301755</link>
		<dc:creator>hansd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They have been around for some time and I&#039;ve only read good stuff about themso far
There&#039;s. There are different models and brands, but mostly they&#039;re the same.
There&#039;s also a dedicated thread at personal-view.com about them with links to sellers and recommendations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have been around for some time and I&#8217;ve only read good stuff about themso far<br />
There&#8217;s. There are different models and brands, but mostly they&#8217;re the same.<br />
There&#8217;s also a dedicated thread at personal-view.com about them with links to sellers and recommendations.</p>
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		<title>By: maghoxfre</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/apple-monitor-27-inch-display-monoprice/comment-page-1/#comment-301674</link>
		<dc:creator>maghoxfre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a comment that has nothing to do with the article, but I think it&#039;s cool. Maybe you already posted it here, it&#039;s a site that has the information about the cameras used in films:

http://shotonwhat.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a comment that has nothing to do with the article, but I think it&#8217;s cool. Maybe you already posted it here, it&#8217;s a site that has the information about the cameras used in films:</p>
<p><a href="http://shotonwhat.com" rel="nofollow">http://shotonwhat.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Apple Quality but Not the Premium? $400 Gets You the Same 27-Inch Panel Used in Their Displays - NoFilmSchool &#124; screenturner &#124; Scoop.it</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/apple-monitor-27-inch-display-monoprice/comment-page-1/#comment-301621</link>
		<dc:creator>Apple Quality but Not the Premium? $400 Gets You the Same 27-Inch Panel Used in Their Displays - NoFilmSchool &#124; screenturner &#124; Scoop.it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] There is a good chance the computer or mobile device screen you&#039;re looking at right now was not actually manufactured by the same company who made the device.&#160; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There is a good chance the computer or mobile device screen you&#039;re looking at right now was not actually manufactured by the same company who made the device.&nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Álex Montoya</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/apple-monitor-27-inch-display-monoprice/comment-page-1/#comment-301616</link>
		<dc:creator>Álex Montoya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was waiting for the LG EA83, a very color accurate 28 inch new display. Though no pricing or release dates have been confirmed, march and around 800$ have been rumoured. 

This display seems to get you like 80% of the way for half the price...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was waiting for the LG EA83, a very color accurate 28 inch new display. Though no pricing or release dates have been confirmed, march and around 800$ have been rumoured. </p>
<p>This display seems to get you like 80% of the way for half the price&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/apple-monitor-27-inch-display-monoprice/comment-page-1/#comment-301601</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its only old news if you heard about it when ;-)

Mater of fact I remember reading that on Anand but completely forgot about it - now I&#039;m looking on ebay with Achieva&#039;s going for only $340 and free delivery. Really tempted to roll the dice and just order one for the heck of it. 

Mmmmmmm 27 inches of 2560 x 1440 goodness arghghghghghghg....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its only old news if you heard about it when ;-)</p>
<p>Mater of fact I remember reading that on Anand but completely forgot about it &#8211; now I&#8217;m looking on ebay with Achieva&#8217;s going for only $340 and free delivery. Really tempted to roll the dice and just order one for the heck of it. </p>
<p>Mmmmmmm 27 inches of 2560 x 1440 goodness arghghghghghghg&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel H</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/apple-monitor-27-inch-display-monoprice/comment-page-1/#comment-301595</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 08:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Old news. Here you have some image quality tests on a similar ebay model:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5885/the-achieva-shimian-qh270-a-350-27inch-wqhd-sips-display]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old news. Here you have some image quality tests on a similar ebay model:<br />
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/show/5885/the-achieva-shimian-qh270-a-350-27inch-wqhd-sips-display" rel="nofollow">http://www.anandtech.com/show/5885/the-achieva-shimian-qh270-a-350-27inch-wqhd-sips-display</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gleb Volkov</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/apple-monitor-27-inch-display-monoprice/comment-page-1/#comment-301573</link>
		<dc:creator>Gleb Volkov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 06:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Link? Model?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Link? Model?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Marine</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/apple-monitor-27-inch-display-monoprice/comment-page-1/#comment-301567</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Marine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 05:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing anyone manufactures is perfect - there are tolerances - and depending on those tolerances, they may still be able to sell them because they technically work. LG has quality control in whatever factory they use, and based on the flaws in the manufacturing process, each panel would get a rating, and the bigger companies will likely select only those with the highest rating - but they pay a premium for this.

Here&#039;s the description from The Wirecutter, who is the one recommending these panels in the first place:

How could it be that cheap? Well, a bunch of eBay sellers have set up shop exporting budget monitors from South Korea. There are two reasons they can sell these monitors so cheaply:

1. Apple and Dell&#039;s high prices make for high standards, so they only accept A+ quality (basically flawless) panels. The A or A- quality panels get handed off to other companies, who use them for these cheap monitors.

2. They&#039;re barebones. The stands are usually cheap and wobbly (but are VESA compatible), they usually have a single DVI input, and there are no extras inside. No resolution scaling, no USB ports, no webcam, and so on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing anyone manufactures is perfect &#8211; there are tolerances &#8211; and depending on those tolerances, they may still be able to sell them because they technically work. LG has quality control in whatever factory they use, and based on the flaws in the manufacturing process, each panel would get a rating, and the bigger companies will likely select only those with the highest rating &#8211; but they pay a premium for this.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the description from The Wirecutter, who is the one recommending these panels in the first place:</p>
<p>How could it be that cheap? Well, a bunch of eBay sellers have set up shop exporting budget monitors from South Korea. There are two reasons they can sell these monitors so cheaply:</p>
<p>1. Apple and Dell&#8217;s high prices make for high standards, so they only accept A+ quality (basically flawless) panels. The A or A- quality panels get handed off to other companies, who use them for these cheap monitors.</p>
<p>2. They&#8217;re barebones. The stands are usually cheap and wobbly (but are VESA compatible), they usually have a single DVI input, and there are no extras inside. No resolution scaling, no USB ports, no webcam, and so on.</p>
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