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	<title>Comments on: Still Waiting on a New Mac Pro? 2012 iMac Beats Mac Pro in DaVinci Resolve and Premiere</title>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/late-2012-imac-beats-mac-pro-benchmark-bare-feats/comment-page-1/#comment-345329</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2013 17:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ha who what to give away ther i mac i want one]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha who what to give away ther i mac i want one</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Jay</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/late-2012-imac-beats-mac-pro-benchmark-bare-feats/comment-page-1/#comment-308626</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Add a 2nd DVI monitor, Add Thunderbolt Blackmagic or AJA HD SDI/HDMI I/O and your MacPro is gone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add a 2nd DVI monitor, Add Thunderbolt Blackmagic or AJA HD SDI/HDMI I/O and your MacPro is gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Dude, You Gettin&#8217; a Dell? Former Apple Editors Choose &#8216;Yes, Bro&#8217; over Mac Pro for Performance - NoFilmSchool</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dude, You Gettin&#8217; a Dell? Former Apple Editors Choose &#8216;Yes, Bro&#8217; over Mac Pro for Performance - NoFilmSchool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] weird is going on. We know the Mac Pro hasn&#8217;t had a substantial upgrade in some time. We know that something is looming over the horizon, but we don&#8217;t know what, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] weird is going on. We know the Mac Pro hasn&#8217;t had a substantial upgrade in some time. We know that something is looming over the horizon, but we don&#8217;t know what, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rachael</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/late-2012-imac-beats-mac-pro-benchmark-bare-feats/comment-page-1/#comment-299623</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 04:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just priced  a Mac Pro at $12.000.00. Yes the zeros are correct.

I then priced the best components to build a PC. That came to just over $2,000.00.
The PC has more storage, more horse power and is faster than the upgraded MAC.

I currently own both and the both run Adobe CS6. There&#039;s no difference. I need to upgrade to begin to edit my own video work. I can but a really nice camera for the $10 grand difference.

The PC wins.

Regards,

Rachael]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just priced  a Mac Pro at $12.000.00. Yes the zeros are correct.</p>
<p>I then priced the best components to build a PC. That came to just over $2,000.00.<br />
The PC has more storage, more horse power and is faster than the upgraded MAC.</p>
<p>I currently own both and the both run Adobe CS6. There&#8217;s no difference. I need to upgrade to begin to edit my own video work. I can but a really nice camera for the $10 grand difference.</p>
<p>The PC wins.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Rachael</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Larche</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/late-2012-imac-beats-mac-pro-benchmark-bare-feats/comment-page-1/#comment-299587</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Larche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 01:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The new iMac 27&quot; can be configured with an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX with 2GB of GDDR5 memory when you buy it. The upgrade costs $150.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new iMac 27&#8243; can be configured with an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX with 2GB of GDDR5 memory when you buy it. The upgrade costs $150.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The iMac is basically a high end laptop, without the portability.
I would love to see a comparison between a loaded iMac and the HP Z1, which offfers a Xeon cpu opption and up gradable graphics, including support for the QuadroFX.

http://www.hp.com/united-states/campaigns/workstations/z1_features.html#.UPBgyG9X18E]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The iMac is basically a high end laptop, without the portability.<br />
I would love to see a comparison between a loaded iMac and the HP Z1, which offfers a Xeon cpu opption and up gradable graphics, including support for the QuadroFX.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hp.com/united-states/campaigns/workstations/z1_features.html#.UPBgyG9X18E" rel="nofollow">http://www.hp.com/united-states/campaigns/workstations/z1_features.html#.UPBgyG9X18E</a></p>
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		<title>By: Heiko</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/late-2012-imac-beats-mac-pro-benchmark-bare-feats/comment-page-1/#comment-298999</link>
		<dc:creator>Heiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 12:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...I forgot to mention that there are a lot of desktop computer parts that you can re-use for the next machine.

When you build a desktop PC and want to upgrade in 3 years, you can keep the power supply, keep the case and fans, keep the optical drive (if you have one), keep the SSDs and HDDs...

A lot of parts can be used longer than just one generation, but a good case lasts even longer. My main desktop PC is still in a 11 year old case - it will now be retired, but it has been the home of at least 5 different systems starting with some single core Athlon in 2001!

Now that is not only saving you a lot of money, but also saves a lot of resources :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;I forgot to mention that there are a lot of desktop computer parts that you can re-use for the next machine.</p>
<p>When you build a desktop PC and want to upgrade in 3 years, you can keep the power supply, keep the case and fans, keep the optical drive (if you have one), keep the SSDs and HDDs&#8230;</p>
<p>A lot of parts can be used longer than just one generation, but a good case lasts even longer. My main desktop PC is still in a 11 year old case &#8211; it will now be retired, but it has been the home of at least 5 different systems starting with some single core Athlon in 2001!</p>
<p>Now that is not only saving you a lot of money, but also saves a lot of resources :)</p>
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		<title>By: Heiko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 12:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I generally don&#039;t like the iMac as a work and render machine. The case and cooling might be sufficient, but barely so. I have seen a few HDDs die in iMacs because they get pretty warm, plus you always have to move the spinning drives when you move the monitor.

The iMac looks good and is certainly a good computer for a lot of things, but as a work horse in video editing I need a desktop computer with flexibility and perfect cooling. I mean I have seen iMacs rendering video for a few hours, and they do get pretty hot. The cooling is sufficient, but just about that - the temperatures in that thing aren&#039;t so funny for the hardware when you push your machine a lot, they will definitely die earlier, than well cooled desktop parts.

Thunderbolt connectivity on the iMac is flexible, but it still means I need to connect everything externally. I know an editor who works professionally with an iMac and there are always like 5 external drives connected to it, so the space she needs on her desk is actually more than if she had a desktop box under her desk with most of these drives internally.

Then you can&#039;t change anything except the RAM. Even switching the switching harddrive is not easy and takes like a whole day. With my desktop I have the same thing done in less than 15 minutes, minus the fear of destroying the display.
With a desktop, I can change the graphics card in 2 years and get a major performance boost for just a few hundred bucks - also not possible with the iMac.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I generally don&#8217;t like the iMac as a work and render machine. The case and cooling might be sufficient, but barely so. I have seen a few HDDs die in iMacs because they get pretty warm, plus you always have to move the spinning drives when you move the monitor.</p>
<p>The iMac looks good and is certainly a good computer for a lot of things, but as a work horse in video editing I need a desktop computer with flexibility and perfect cooling. I mean I have seen iMacs rendering video for a few hours, and they do get pretty hot. The cooling is sufficient, but just about that &#8211; the temperatures in that thing aren&#8217;t so funny for the hardware when you push your machine a lot, they will definitely die earlier, than well cooled desktop parts.</p>
<p>Thunderbolt connectivity on the iMac is flexible, but it still means I need to connect everything externally. I know an editor who works professionally with an iMac and there are always like 5 external drives connected to it, so the space she needs on her desk is actually more than if she had a desktop box under her desk with most of these drives internally.</p>
<p>Then you can&#8217;t change anything except the RAM. Even switching the switching harddrive is not easy and takes like a whole day. With my desktop I have the same thing done in less than 15 minutes, minus the fear of destroying the display.<br />
With a desktop, I can change the graphics card in 2 years and get a major performance boost for just a few hundred bucks &#8211; also not possible with the iMac.</p>
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		<title>By: Heiko</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/late-2012-imac-beats-mac-pro-benchmark-bare-feats/comment-page-1/#comment-298983</link>
		<dc:creator>Heiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 11:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are missing the point: the comparison was amongst Apple products only - and because there are no newer MacPros available, they tested the old MacPro against the new iMac. Nobody said it was a &quot;fair&quot; test, it was just a test in the reality of what Apple delivers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are missing the point: the comparison was amongst Apple products only &#8211; and because there are no newer MacPros available, they tested the old MacPro against the new iMac. Nobody said it was a &#8220;fair&#8221; test, it was just a test in the reality of what Apple delivers.</p>
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		<title>By: LT</title>
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		<dc:creator>LT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How does these new iMac&#039;s handle with heat, dust and screen temperature?
Considering that components are now even closer to the screen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does these new iMac&#8217;s handle with heat, dust and screen temperature?<br />
Considering that components are now even closer to the screen.</p>
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		<title>By: Toobs</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/late-2012-imac-beats-mac-pro-benchmark-bare-feats/comment-page-1/#comment-298639</link>
		<dc:creator>Toobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How can you upgrade the graphics card to a GTX680? These are not made for mac.

Can you just install PC graphic card in a mac and they work now?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can you upgrade the graphics card to a GTX680? These are not made for mac.</p>
<p>Can you just install PC graphic card in a mac and they work now?</p>
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		<title>By: Nikki</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/late-2012-imac-beats-mac-pro-benchmark-bare-feats/comment-page-1/#comment-298538</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like I need to eat my shirt on this one. We just got a new iMac in and I sat the two next to each other earlier. It&#039;s a major improvement on glare. I haven&#039;t worked on it yet, but the difference is quite dramatic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like I need to eat my shirt on this one. We just got a new iMac in and I sat the two next to each other earlier. It&#8217;s a major improvement on glare. I haven&#8217;t worked on it yet, but the difference is quite dramatic.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Larche</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/late-2012-imac-beats-mac-pro-benchmark-bare-feats/comment-page-1/#comment-298054</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Larche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 00:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just got the new iMac comes with nVidia GeForceGTX  680 upgrade option with Cuda to drive the Mercury playback engine. I don&#039;t use Resolve, but Premiere and AE work beautifully with the new system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got the new iMac comes with nVidia GeForceGTX  680 upgrade option with Cuda to drive the Mercury playback engine. I don&#8217;t use Resolve, but Premiere and AE work beautifully with the new system.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikki</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/late-2012-imac-beats-mac-pro-benchmark-bare-feats/comment-page-1/#comment-297281</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 04:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, a confidence monitor should be used. The iMacs I&#039;m referring to are used for building tutorials, not broadcast work. That&#039;s what my workstation and confidence monitor are for. Even still, it&#039;s difficult to see my UI keyframes, and generally anything. It&#039;s frustratingly blinding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, a confidence monitor should be used. The iMacs I&#8217;m referring to are used for building tutorials, not broadcast work. That&#8217;s what my workstation and confidence monitor are for. Even still, it&#8217;s difficult to see my UI keyframes, and generally anything. It&#8217;s frustratingly blinding.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikki</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/late-2012-imac-beats-mac-pro-benchmark-bare-feats/comment-page-1/#comment-297277</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 04:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, I believe they state about 75% less. Would still prefer a matte IPS panel. To each their own I suppose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I believe they state about 75% less. Would still prefer a matte IPS panel. To each their own I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Hansen</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/late-2012-imac-beats-mac-pro-benchmark-bare-feats/comment-page-1/#comment-296940</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 15:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This test isn&#039;t fair to the Mac Pro. Anyone running Premiere or Resolve heavily is using a nVidia card, not the stock Radeon card. I bought a used 4,1 Mac Pro, loaded it up with 64GB of RAM, SSD, internal RAID and a GTX 570. Even though its 3 years old, I would rather have this machine for my work in Resolve, After Effects and Premiere, than a new iMac.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This test isn&#8217;t fair to the Mac Pro. Anyone running Premiere or Resolve heavily is using a nVidia card, not the stock Radeon card. I bought a used 4,1 Mac Pro, loaded it up with 64GB of RAM, SSD, internal RAID and a GTX 570. Even though its 3 years old, I would rather have this machine for my work in Resolve, After Effects and Premiere, than a new iMac.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Hansen</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/late-2012-imac-beats-mac-pro-benchmark-bare-feats/comment-page-1/#comment-296936</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 15:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s exactly what I did and I feel the same way. You can find used 4,1 Mac Pros for $1500 and then load em up!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s exactly what I did and I feel the same way. You can find used 4,1 Mac Pros for $1500 and then load em up!</p>
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		<title>By: Razor</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/late-2012-imac-beats-mac-pro-benchmark-bare-feats/comment-page-1/#comment-296722</link>
		<dc:creator>Razor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 09:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Using a Mac for desktop development will soon become a dead-end road. Despite Apple&#039;s tiny surge in popularity, Windows still overwhelmingly dominates the market* at 91% vs. Mac OS X at 7%.

*Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using a Mac for desktop development will soon become a dead-end road. Despite Apple&#8217;s tiny surge in popularity, Windows still overwhelmingly dominates the market* at 91% vs. Mac OS X at 7%.</p>
<p>*Reference: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Koo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Koo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 09:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The new iMacs have a lot less glare...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new iMacs have a lot less glare&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alan McInnes</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/late-2012-imac-beats-mac-pro-benchmark-bare-feats/comment-page-1/#comment-296709</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan McInnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 08:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a 2008 Intel Mac Pro with dual quad cores and am hoping that Apple doesn&#039;t abandon this market.  I want the tower form factor and configurability.  I use all four drive bays and also have an external 8 TB array as my main video storage.  I really hope that Apple comes up with a new Mac Pro soon.  I have the budget and my Mac Pro is due for swap out.  I can&#039;t believe that Apple would think that iMacs can replace the Mac Pro.  I have a 27&quot; at home and do some editing on it, but I need a real workhorse at work and the Mac Pro form is it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 2008 Intel Mac Pro with dual quad cores and am hoping that Apple doesn&#8217;t abandon this market.  I want the tower form factor and configurability.  I use all four drive bays and also have an external 8 TB array as my main video storage.  I really hope that Apple comes up with a new Mac Pro soon.  I have the budget and my Mac Pro is due for swap out.  I can&#8217;t believe that Apple would think that iMacs can replace the Mac Pro.  I have a 27&#8243; at home and do some editing on it, but I need a real workhorse at work and the Mac Pro form is it.</p>
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