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	<title>Comments on: 1. Write the Feature. 2. Make a Short. 3. Get the Feature Made. (Coming Soon: a MANCHILD Short)</title>
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		<title>By: The Prequel to My Basketball Feature Film MANCHILD is Here: Be the First to See AMATEUR - nofilmschool</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/comment-page-3/#comment-359556</link>
		<dc:creator>The Prequel to My Basketball Feature Film MANCHILD is Here: Be the First to See AMATEUR - nofilmschool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] take a minute to tweet and/or facebook manchildfilm.com. I&#8217;ve talked in the past about the strategy of making a short, and now that you&#8217;ve seen it I hope the approach is much clearer as the story ties in [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] take a minute to tweet and/or facebook manchildfilm.com. I&#8217;ve talked in the past about the strategy of making a short, and now that you&#8217;ve seen it I hope the approach is much clearer as the story ties in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Paolella</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/comment-page-2/#comment-347622</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Paolella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Mar 2013 13:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I still maintain that no questions need be answered about the campaign. When you give money to a creative for a kickstart campaign, you give it without control or expectation. All that is in place is trust. You look at the pitch and decide to go or no go. Once you go, you shut up and wait. If something happens, fine. If the money is squandered, too bad, be more careful evaluating the next pitch. 

I think Ryan should concentrate ONLY on making the film, not answering these stupid questions. JMO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still maintain that no questions need be answered about the campaign. When you give money to a creative for a kickstart campaign, you give it without control or expectation. All that is in place is trust. You look at the pitch and decide to go or no go. Once you go, you shut up and wait. If something happens, fine. If the money is squandered, too bad, be more careful evaluating the next pitch. </p>
<p>I think Ryan should concentrate ONLY on making the film, not answering these stupid questions. JMO.</p>
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		<title>By: In NYC? Want to Work with Award-Winning Filmmakers? We&#8217;re Looking for an Intern or Two on MANCHILD. - NoFilmSchool</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/comment-page-2/#comment-345205</link>
		<dc:creator>In NYC? Want to Work with Award-Winning Filmmakers? We&#8217;re Looking for an Intern or Two on MANCHILD. - NoFilmSchool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] working hard on my feature MANCHILD and the associated short, and we&#8217;re looking for some extra hands on deck. I&#8217;d like to think this is a good [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] working hard on my feature MANCHILD and the associated short, and we&#8217;re looking for some extra hands on deck. I&#8217;d like to think this is a good [...]</p>
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		<title>By: gerald</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/comment-page-2/#comment-343180</link>
		<dc:creator>gerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Canon? The printer manufacturer?nice that they are also doing dslrs now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Canon? The printer manufacturer?nice that they are also doing dslrs now.</p>
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		<title>By: sammy</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/comment-page-2/#comment-338505</link>
		<dc:creator>sammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 22:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quit encouraging him to do a short.
He doesn&#039;t need to do one he&#039;s ready.

Sure if Peter Jackson likes a short....
he can get anyone $25 million for a feature.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quit encouraging him to do a short.<br />
He doesn&#8217;t need to do one he&#8217;s ready.</p>
<p>Sure if Peter Jackson likes a short&#8230;.<br />
he can get anyone $25 million for a feature.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaleb</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/comment-page-2/#comment-337020</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t forget &quot;Alive in Joburg&quot; which inspired District 9

http://vimeo.com/5398654]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget &#8220;Alive in Joburg&#8221; which inspired District 9</p>
<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/5398654" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/5398654</a></p>
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		<title>By: Why Short Films Are Rejected from Festivals and Reasons You Should Make a Short Before a Feature - NoFilmSchool</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/comment-page-2/#comment-333799</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Short Films Are Rejected from Festivals and Reasons You Should Make a Short Before a Feature - NoFilmSchool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the last clip, Karen Worden mentions our own Ryan Koo&#8217;s Manchild project, and his choice to make a short before the feature. Daniel explains why this is a good idea, and [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Ryan Koo</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/comment-page-2/#comment-331910</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Koo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 16:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Philip and Brad. And yes, we&#039;re hoping to do special features during production -- a way, way smaller version of The Hobbit production diaries, more focused on the nitty-gritty of filmmaking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Philip and Brad. And yes, we&#8217;re hoping to do special features during production &#8212; a way, way smaller version of The Hobbit production diaries, more focused on the nitty-gritty of filmmaking.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/comment-page-2/#comment-331868</link>
		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good luck either way!

I hope there will be some great special features when it does come out!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck either way!</p>
<p>I hope there will be some great special features when it does come out!</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/comment-page-2/#comment-329118</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to kind of &quot;agree&quot; with the above. It sounds like either you are bewildered with all the stuff you&#039;re faced with in getting this thing from script to screen, or you never intended to. To be quite honest, your film doesn&#039;t sound very interesting to not only me - but many other posters here, and you bought a very expensive, flashy camera off the backs of your kickstarters... whether you paid for it or not - not the point... it just looks messy. 

You say the current budget will not do the film justice, tell that to Robert Rodriguez. You hatched the initial plan pal!  You want to include subplots into your boring film - ipso facto - making it more boring. Take Kevins Smiths advice - cut that *ish down. Keep it snappy, quick, interesting... it&#039;s a sports film - not Pride and Prejudice. 

I say you need to return your kickstarter funds and crank out a no budget short, maybe then you&#039;ll regain the confidence of your supporters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to kind of &#8220;agree&#8221; with the above. It sounds like either you are bewildered with all the stuff you&#8217;re faced with in getting this thing from script to screen, or you never intended to. To be quite honest, your film doesn&#8217;t sound very interesting to not only me &#8211; but many other posters here, and you bought a very expensive, flashy camera off the backs of your kickstarters&#8230; whether you paid for it or not &#8211; not the point&#8230; it just looks messy. </p>
<p>You say the current budget will not do the film justice, tell that to Robert Rodriguez. You hatched the initial plan pal!  You want to include subplots into your boring film &#8211; ipso facto &#8211; making it more boring. Take Kevins Smiths advice &#8211; cut that *ish down. Keep it snappy, quick, interesting&#8230; it&#8217;s a sports film &#8211; not Pride and Prejudice. </p>
<p>I say you need to return your kickstarter funds and crank out a no budget short, maybe then you&#8217;ll regain the confidence of your supporters.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Rydzewski</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/comment-page-2/#comment-327632</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Rydzewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 01:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It should be noted that the final cost for Mr. Burns&#039; film was around $100,000. $9,000 was production cost and $100K for post. Films aren&#039;t cheap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be noted that the final cost for Mr. Burns&#8217; film was around $100,000. $9,000 was production cost and $100K for post. Films aren&#8217;t cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/comment-page-2/#comment-323572</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Ryan, gotta respect you for working so hard and so openly too. For every hater, there&#039;s 10 of us who look up to you. MAKE AWESOME STUFF!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ryan, gotta respect you for working so hard and so openly too. For every hater, there&#8217;s 10 of us who look up to you. MAKE AWESOME STUFF!</p>
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		<title>By: Putting the Cart before the Horse &#124; Trojan Horse Films</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/comment-page-2/#comment-322875</link>
		<dc:creator>Putting the Cart before the Horse &#124; Trojan Horse Films</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2013 01:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/   Bookmark the permalink. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/" rel="nofollow">http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/</a>   Bookmark the permalink. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John B.</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/comment-page-2/#comment-322606</link>
		<dc:creator>John B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2013 15:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ryan: Are you aware that Ed Burns just made a film for $9,000 and also did a very informative interview that encouraged &quot;serious&quot; filmmakers to comprehend that can be done? I also just saw an excellent feature that earned spots in several major film festivals that cost $30,000? If you can&#039;t make a feature for $115,000, you need to rethink your career choice. And I agree with the other poster that a YOU were the one who set your Kickstarter goal. You got your money. You led contributors to belive you would make a film. Now go make the film. Period.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan: Are you aware that Ed Burns just made a film for $9,000 and also did a very informative interview that encouraged &#8220;serious&#8221; filmmakers to comprehend that can be done? I also just saw an excellent feature that earned spots in several major film festivals that cost $30,000? If you can&#8217;t make a feature for $115,000, you need to rethink your career choice. And I agree with the other poster that a YOU were the one who set your Kickstarter goal. You got your money. You led contributors to belive you would make a film. Now go make the film. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Taipan</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/comment-page-2/#comment-321174</link>
		<dc:creator>Taipan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 09:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=six57W53PFc 
Above is the link a short I made.  If anyone can please give creative critism, I would most appreciate it.  I am here to learn.
Thank you all,
Taipan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=six57W53PFc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=six57W53PFc</a><br />
Above is the link a short I made.  If anyone can please give creative critism, I would most appreciate it.  I am here to learn.<br />
Thank you all,<br />
Taipan</p>
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		<title>By: Shelley</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/comment-page-2/#comment-320337</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, you can make your point without personally attacking people. Drawn and quartered? Really? I may not agree with every decision Ryan makes regarding ManChild, but it&#039;s his journey. Let him do what he wants!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you can make your point without personally attacking people. Drawn and quartered? Really? I may not agree with every decision Ryan makes regarding ManChild, but it&#8217;s his journey. Let him do what he wants!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Koo</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/comment-page-2/#comment-320261</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Koo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 05:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Feel free to share links to these projects.]]></description>
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		<title>By: biagio</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/comment-page-2/#comment-320222</link>
		<dc:creator>biagio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 03:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[look man so many people on this forum talk way to much and never show a link to there work. without seeing your movie i cant say whether it is good or not. however telling someone who clearly cares a great deal about his craft how to make his movie is not something i think people have any right to do. hes the one under the gun and i think he knows that people want the movie done but he is making the best decisions based on the information he has. i think hes more informed about his movie. id love to watch your film and tell you if you made something good. (a link to imdb doesnt really show me anything) but for 2k i just dont see how you make a film with any real production value. unless your making it based on looking crappy (found footage/cellphone).
prove me wrong man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>look man so many people on this forum talk way to much and never show a link to there work. without seeing your movie i cant say whether it is good or not. however telling someone who clearly cares a great deal about his craft how to make his movie is not something i think people have any right to do. hes the one under the gun and i think he knows that people want the movie done but he is making the best decisions based on the information he has. i think hes more informed about his movie. id love to watch your film and tell you if you made something good. (a link to imdb doesnt really show me anything) but for 2k i just dont see how you make a film with any real production value. unless your making it based on looking crappy (found footage/cellphone).<br />
prove me wrong man.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/comment-page-2/#comment-320118</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 23:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wait wait... so you raise $90,000 to shoot a film you claim to have budgeted and planned for only to reveal to the people who gave you money that the script isn&#039;t finished and and you&#039;ve decided to shoot a short instead because some how you&#039;ve discovered that wasn&#039;t enough money?   My company shot a feature on 10K that has worldwide distribution, friends of ours shot films on 20K and 40K that are amassing epic followings!!  We are presently shooting a film on 2K that is gaining the support of major companies across the state?!  And you can&#039;t shoot a feature on 90K?

I as well as hundreds of other film makers would kill for even half of what you&#039;ve scammed out of your supporters.  Suck it up boy-o and shoot the feature you promised people... any actual investor would have had you drawn and quartered by now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait wait&#8230; so you raise $90,000 to shoot a film you claim to have budgeted and planned for only to reveal to the people who gave you money that the script isn&#8217;t finished and and you&#8217;ve decided to shoot a short instead because some how you&#8217;ve discovered that wasn&#8217;t enough money?   My company shot a feature on 10K that has worldwide distribution, friends of ours shot films on 20K and 40K that are amassing epic followings!!  We are presently shooting a film on 2K that is gaining the support of major companies across the state?!  And you can&#8217;t shoot a feature on 90K?</p>
<p>I as well as hundreds of other film makers would kill for even half of what you&#8217;ve scammed out of your supporters.  Suck it up boy-o and shoot the feature you promised people&#8230; any actual investor would have had you drawn and quartered by now.</p>
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		<title>By: BSamson</title>
		<link>http://nofilmschool.com/2013/02/1-write-feature-2-short-3-feature-made/comment-page-2/#comment-319891</link>
		<dc:creator>BSamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who the f are you two to be questioning me or the quality of my work? The writer asked for feedback on this so he got some. My point as well as a few of the other posters here is that he&#039;s basically paralyzed himself in search of perfection. He&#039;s not going to get it and i am not trying to call out Mr. Koo at all. I am thinking he just needs to stop wasting time with shorts, rewrites and other crap and make his movie as best he can with the fairly ample resources he has. 

As far as my work goes; that makes my other point. We would have killed to have a fifth of what he has for resources. Either of you questioning the quality of it or my integrity because you don&#039;t like my comment is both petty and ridiculous. 

But because i have enough balls to be proud of what we have done here&#039;s the first of the two (the other won&#039;t be officially released until April)   http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2349406/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who the f are you two to be questioning me or the quality of my work? The writer asked for feedback on this so he got some. My point as well as a few of the other posters here is that he&#8217;s basically paralyzed himself in search of perfection. He&#8217;s not going to get it and i am not trying to call out Mr. Koo at all. I am thinking he just needs to stop wasting time with shorts, rewrites and other crap and make his movie as best he can with the fairly ample resources he has. </p>
<p>As far as my work goes; that makes my other point. We would have killed to have a fifth of what he has for resources. Either of you questioning the quality of it or my integrity because you don&#8217;t like my comment is both petty and ridiculous. </p>
<p>But because i have enough balls to be proud of what we have done here&#8217;s the first of the two (the other won&#8217;t be officially released until April)   <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2349406/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2349406/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1</a></p>
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