After talking about the Monstro sensor for the first time in 2008 and as recently as way back in 2011, RED has long had big things on its roadmap. Now, as 8K Helium sensors are finally becoming more common in the roughly Super35mm frame size, we have the surprise announcement from RED of their new Monstro 8K VV sensor, along with a short film Iron Horse which shows off the full frame imagery using some of RED's favorite tropes of western and motorcycle imagery all in one. You can only watch it over on YouTube, but you can check out the launch build video here.
VV, or Vista Vision, is, of course, RED's preferred method for talking about Full Frame 35mm still sensor size. Since motion picture film ran vertically and still film ran horizontally, the same 35mm sensors were very different in size, and the still photo 35mm frame size has become exceptionally popular in motion picture use for the larger photo sites and smaller depth of field. Using a different name is unsurprising since it's RED after all, but it's also fair since RED tends to make its sensors both wider and shorter than traditional sensor aspect ratios so a fresh name makes sense to ease confusion when discussing what lenses will cover what sensors. Saying "This covers full frame but not Vista" is easier than saying "This covers full frame but not RED's proprietary full frame."
Though RED's Vista Vision is also wider and shorter than traditional Vista Vision was, you don't tend to see a lot of traditional Vista glass in rental house inventory these days and if you do they should have the expertise to walk you through what sensors it'll cover. The image qualities of the larger sensor are shown off in a few places in Iron Horse which, aside from its creamy imagery, has a few shots designed to take advantage of the tighter depth of field even in a day exterior.
Credit: RED Digital Cinema
RED loves to give hints about what is coming in the future, and while the company is sometimes wildly off in its timeline, it does tend to eventually deliver a lot of the amazing things it hints towards. The big question is whether the use of the "Monstro" name looks back at the original roadmap from 2009, seen above. There is no mention of Dragon or Helium in that roadmap, and a lot has changed in the digital cinema industry since then, but there is a 35FF "Monstro" sensor on that chart. Below it, there's a Monstro 645 and a 617. With Hasselblad being bought by DJI and having a 4K-capable medium format camera, and the further developments by folks like Fujilfilm in the medium format space, it's possible that this 8K VV Monstro announcement is the first step of fulfilling the original plan.
Credit: RED
Of course, back then RED still called Full Frame "Full Frame" and not Vista Vision, and its sensor sizes where more traditional, but those bold predictions of a Monstro 645 and the insane 28K Monstro 617 were on the map nonetheless. While this doesn't mean we are going to be seeing the Monstro 645 tomorrow, and I think we can all agree it might be another nine years for the 617 to hit market, I think the 645 might finally be on the horizon.
While the 617 size likely won't take over the film industry, super high-resolution imagery could be tremendously useful in certain special application or special effects workflows, and we'd be excited to see how that played out. Or RED just really likes the Monstro name and have been excited to use it all these years.
We can only dream. In the meantime, the initial noise tests for the Monstro are amazing, and as much as we cringe when we hear "watch it full screen," with fine detail noise tests, that is the way to go.
If you grew up or listened to pop music anywhere within arms reach of the 90s and early aughts, you're likely to have some semblance of unavoidable knowledge of Jennifer "J.Lo" Lopez's love life. It seemed like paparazzi and tabloid culture was at an all-time high around then, and luckily (hopefully?) has calmed down at least a little bit as we've all matured in our media literacy (in some ways better than others).
As a response after a 10 year hiatus from music, J.Lo recently released her music film and album This is Me... Now . It's both an answer to that particularly public time in her very successful career and life, as well as a love letter to her voice as an artist.
The result is an hour long conceptual music video-like film cataloguing her love life and growth through good ol' visual metaphor and dance a la the likes of Lemonade (unavoidable reference, though now cliche). It's very cool and stylish and a true testament of artistic expression that's worth a watch for anyone ranging from J.Lo diehards to casual fans. I'm a punk guy with little knowledge of J.Lo past her hits, and I had fun!
But we're not here to talk about that today. While filming This is Me... Now, a separate documentary was film simultaneously of the filmmaking process of the music film, The Greatest Love Story Never Told. (Phew).
The results are a charming and vulnerable look into an already vulnerable project. For our audience here at No Film School, it also offers quite an interesting voyeuristic view on how a production of this magnitude is made (and how it might be particularly hard without the J.Lo money of it all). And, lastly, lucky for us, we got to speak with the director of the documentary Jason Bergh on the process of crafting J.Lo's Heart of Darkness.
If you're still with me after that Russian doll of an introduction, please enjoy our chat with Jason where he gives us some insight into his own musical origins, as well as the ever important advice to value your crew no matter what role they pay.
Editor's note: The following quotes are edited for length and clarity.
The Musical Origins of Jason Bergh
Screenshot from The Greatest Love Story Never Told
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"Yeah, I think for me, music is such a important part of my life.
I was lucky I had parents that played incredible music in the house and for me, introduced me to incredible music from all over the world kind of growing up. So music has always been a big part of me, and also it's a huge part of film and filmmaking and it helps set tones and evoke emotions.
And so I'm obsessed with music, and when I was younger—18, 19 years old—I was lucky enough to work for this magazine in New York called The Fridge Magazine, and we used to put on music festivals where we'd bring action sports and skateboarding festivals with musicians. We'd go up from Brooklyn to Vermont and we'd put together festivals.
And so it was very much documenting musicians. I think I shot an Eminem show, I think before even his first record came out on stage at Mount Snow in Vermont in a warehouse. So I've always just been very drawn to musicians. The process, the creativity behind it, the performance, just from writing a record to performing a record and everything in between has just been fascinating to me.
I've been shooting for, I mean, I've had a camera in my hand since I was probably 12 years old in some way, shape. or form.
Whether it's an old Canon 81 shooting stills and developing the film. And I had a dark room in my basement, kind of a makeshift dark room, and my dad had an enlarger from when he was younger. I remember he basically, he just kind of saw that I was interested in taking photos and telling stories and he was like, well, I think it'd be really cool for you learn how to process this film and there's so many different things and aspects that you can do when you process film, the dodging, the burning, the exposures, and all this.
I think that's where my obsession for filmmaking really begun is just understanding there's a whole process here, and that was kind of my entree into it."
The Camera Kit for 'The Greatest Love Story Never Told'
"So camera wise, for a lot of the stuff that was happening during the filming of [Jennifer Lopez's] movie, This is Me Now, we had two Sony Venices. They were rigged up on easy rigs, they get kind of heavy. And then I had the vintage Cooke S4 lenses, and we stuck a lot on, there's a lot of stuff on the 75, I believe the 35 or somewhere in that 35 range might be a 37 for the S4s.
I love doing that. I love showing the scope of where we are and then mixing that with a closeup kind of shot so you understand the environment that you're in. And then the next shot you see is kind of the intimate shot that's right there and you're brought into that. And our DP, Alex Paul, is incredible, who I love, who I've worked with in the past, we talked a lot about that when we were coming up.
I wanted these big bird's eye shots, but these big bird's eye shots aren't on cranes. Literally going to the GE teams on the big movie, I'm like, 'Hey, do you guys have a ladder? Can we borrow a ladder?'
They're like, 'yeah, take a ladder.' So we're grabbing ladders, we're running, putting them into places, and then we're climbing up on top of the ladders with a sandbag or of sorts that's on top of the ladder and you got the camera on top of it and micro force zooms kind of going in.
That's tough, right? Because you got to get those shots, but you don't have a lot of time because when you're making docs, it's not like you could say, 'Hey, can you redo that?' You got to be able to be able to switch, get the micro force off and get your primes back on and be able to switch pretty fast. And that comes from the incredible assistant cameras, first acs, second acs, and third acs that were just on point. And we knew we got to switch, we're switch swinging the lens, boom, got, we already say, okay, how fast can we swing the lens?
And sometimes we'd be like, all right, this one's going to be like 45 seconds, or this one's going to be a minute and a half, or, oh, I can swing this one in 10 seconds. And then you kind of look and you're like, okay, well I can get this shot. Then you got to kind of plan, okay, if this lens is going to take this long to switch, you got to replan where you are and what you're doing based on that."
Jason Bergh on the Importance of Respecting Your Crew
Screenshot from The Greatest Love Story Never Told
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"I mean, we're nothing about crew. Crew is the heartbeat of any project that you're on. Every single person from the PA to the executive producers, everybody needs to be respected and needs to be treated the way that you would want to be treated.
I'm so lucky because we had such a wonderful family-like crew on this, and I was reading a post at someone the Post the other day, and Natalie, one of our first acs was just like, I'm miss hearing Jason's banter on the comms because you also, when you're on the comms, sometimes it's intense and I have a tendency to just throw a joke in there or just say, how lucky are we to be doing what we're doing just to keep everyone, it gets intense when you're in these scenes and you need to break through the intensity a little bit throughout the day.
We all were a PA at some point in our career and PAs are the future of our business, and they are there learning and they're there trying to soak in as much knowledge as they possibly can, and they're on their come up in a business that's already tough. And that's why you try to just, at least for me, I try to when I'm in control and I try to fix the things that I saw were broken when I was coming in."
The Ebb and Flow of Shooting a Doc about a Shoot
"There was tons of meetings beforehand, understanding what was happening and what was taking place as far as her making her film This is Me Now.
We did a ton of research. We read the scripts, we talk to people, and we try to figure out what's happening. And then on the day before, every day at night before, I'll reread the sides and really just try to understand what's happening on that specific day. And then that's when I'll make the plan with a DP will come in the morning and say, 'okay, well, let's concentrate on these lenses for the day, or this is how we're going to move, or we got rain coming today. How do we play that into the story? And so we just going with the flow, right?'
Because again, with docs, you can't ask to do things twice, so you have to be ready and go with the flow. So yes, we do plan, but a lot of it is found during the day and you got to be kind of open as a filmmaker to be able to just let things find you while you're doing what you're doing throughout the day, but you also have to search for it and look for it. I hope that makes sense. It's a combination of things.
Those are the documentaries that I learned when things happen and phone call happens and I changes the trajectory of your story, and then now you got to go and follow that kind of story as that's happening. And that's not scripted. You can't script that. That's just real life happening, and you have to be so aware and so in tune to what's going on that you are able to pivot.
That's the difference I think with docs is that things can change in a matter of a second, and if you're not prepared and always ready, and sometimes I come home at the end of the night and literally I make it to my bed and I'm fully clothed and I'll just sleep. I've been thinking so hard all day and trying to be ahead of it. You always got to be steps ahead and your preparation and how you get down. So yeah, I hope that answers the question.
Yeah, I mean, we had a fantastic editorial team led by Lindsay Utz, Grace Zahrah, Lenny Masina, Jenn Horvath, Elizabeth Maria Barrett. They are the best of the best. We basically, we shot everything and yes, I don't look too much at dailies because I'm still obsessive of what I'm getting throughout the day and taking notes. I'm always taking notes throughout the day of things that stood out to me."
Jason's Advice to Future Filmmakers
Jason Bergh
"I think advice for filmmakers is always based on that specific filmmaker that asks me just based on who they are and what they're doing and what they want to do.
But I think for me, and it's funny that we're on No Film School, but for me, and again, this advice doesn't go to everyone, but from my piece of advice is don't go to film school and get a business degree or some sort of business degree because you as filmmakers, we are our own business and it doesn't matter if we work in a company, it doesn't matter if we work at a production company or an agency or whatever.
As filmmakers, we are our own business and we need to know how to operate our business or we get taken advantage of. And so you can learn film as a PA and especially now with YouTube and all of the things, you can learn all the things on set. I think being a PA for a year, you can learn a lot, probably more than a year in college as far as going to film school.
Yeah, film school right now, I think you could look at the Chapman's and the NYU's amazing institutions, but they're 90 grand a year. To me, it's like if you have someone that's going to pay 90 grand a year, I would say, well take that 90 grand and put that into a budget for a film, and you can make a film for $90,000.
You can do it. People do it all the time."
The Greatest Love Story Never Told is now streaming on Amazon Prime.