June 28, 2015 at 8:02PM

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2.5k Raw Coloring / Editing Computer

Looking for help building a rig for editing. A system that can easily handle Blackmagic Cinema Camera 2.5k raw footage and also work well in Davinci Resolve and most if not all of Adobe's suite. The size of raw footage is approximately 70mb per second. I'm not the best at math but approximately 50 minutes of footage is 256gbs.

Approximate Purchase Date: July 1st or 2nd week 2015.

Budget Range: 2000 give or take a few hundred, I could push the budget to 3000 but would rather not unless it just made a WHOLE LOT of sense and is really necessary for a good experience

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Coloring/editing 2.5k raw from the BMCC cam in resolve/adobe, also a way to handle the footage and file sizes storage wise, web surfing, occasional foray into gaming no need to optimize for this, although would be nice to be able to sometimes switch from 3 to 1-2.

Are you buying a monitor? No. But this is the monitor I plan on using I have three of them.
http://www.amazon.com/HP-ZR22w-21-5-inch-S-IPS-Monitor/dp/B003D1CFHY/ref...

Parts to Upgrade; Willing to upgrade EVERYTHING. But, here's some information about my current setup just in case some of it may be able to be used in the new build.

Intel i5-3570k 3.40 GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

RAM 16 GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104361

Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139018

Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131837

Power supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

Fan
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009ZN03AA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00

128gb Kingston SSD for OS
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007R67FTY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s01

DVD Drive; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289

GPHX card; 1 x SAPPHIRE 100352-3L Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

Also a few assorted sizes of different 1 TB to 3 TB drives

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Amazon would be my top one since I have prime, but, I guess anywhere reputable is fine! Would rather buy it all online than go to a physical store.

Overclocking; Maybe?

SLI or Crossfire; I'm assuming yes? But not sure.

Additional Comments: Would like the ability to quiet the fan or PC when surfing the web, like for example on my current setup when I use 1-2 of my 3 monitors to just surf the web I can go into Corsair Link and tell the computer to run in quiet mode.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I need a computer that can handle the footage easily and relatively quickly. I don't want to be frustrated when coloring or editing the footage. Also would like the computer to last me 4-5 years (stretching it I know lol).

One additional question;What about raid controllers? Cuda processing / GPU for the editing side of things? USB 3.0 vs Thunderbolt?

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You don't need SLI/Crossfire for 2.5K raw. The specs you've listed are more than enough to handle it in Resolve and in the new Premiere Pro CC 2015 for example (Premiere CC 2014 is much slower when processing raw).

The only possible bottleneck here is the hard drive. In theory, running 2.5K compressed raw footage from a defragmented hard drive should be ok. Going to a speed oriented raid for a working drive will improve the odds for no hickups, but it is best to try a single HDD first and only go to a raid if needed. It is surprising the continuous throughput a simple clean WD Blu can handle.

Your chosen video card is already a VERY capable OpenCL and OpenGL device so you are good in most GPU accelerated applications. Obviously, there is no CUDA support in AMD cards but there is no CUDA-only acceleration in new and recent video software as the industry is shifting towards OpenCL.

June 30, 2015 at 10:19AM, Edited June 30, 10:21AM

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Ezi Seel
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Thank you for your reply Ezi. Good luck out there.

Brian Anthony

June 30, 2015 at 11:29PM

First, if you're dealing with Adobe, go Nvidia all the way. You'll be losing a lot of performance without CUDA support...for now. A good gaming card can be tricked so Adobe thinks its a Quadro=) Going with an i7 from an i5 will help with rendering, if a time crunch matters. But much of the rendering is GPU accelerated, so the more bang you've got, the better. 16GB of RAM is OK and for just editing, so you should be fine there. With After Effects, you'll want more. As much as you can afford. Easily upgrade-able though at a later time. Frankly, the SSD C\ drive isn't going to make a difference when editing, besides start up times and applications launching.

What you have will certainly work. AMD will be your biggest issue. Go Nvidia. Any reputable 7200rpm drives, for video, will be fine. For portable storage, G-Drives are beasts, either USB3.0 or Thunderbolt.

July 1, 2015 at 1:59PM

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Josh.R
Motion Designer/Predator
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I am curious which CUDA only Adobe features do you mean?
The only one I'm aware of is the raytracer in After Effects and it is now obsolete with the Cinema4D integration.

Ezi Seel

July 1, 2015 at 5:17PM

I would stay clear of Radeon cards as well... they really aren't that good, unless ofcourse you can't afford something proper, then they will always be rated as "fine".

Larger SSD drives will run faster, and if you get one large SSD for your work drive instead (1 tb or something like that) then you can let go of the idea of having several mechanical drives.

My current setup is 1x 500gb SSD for OS and apps - 1x 1tb SSD for work files (ssd's negate the idea of separating source / export drives) - 1x 4tb mechanical storage for raw and finished edits.

I also see an issue in you choosing an i5 processor since it has no hyperthreading, so while it technically has a nice clock speed, it will only run 4 threads when working.
If you chose an i7 you'd have 8 threads to work for you and that would be felt on render times.

Any chance you could wait and save up a little more money to invest in a 4k ready machine instead? I don't think your proposed setup will last you 4-5 years (without you becoming frustrated at some point...) since it's all old tech by now, and if you one day decide or find out that you want to upgrade and / or need something like 64gb of ram, then you motherboard wont support it.
Investing in a x99 motherboard would give you some headroom in the long run since they will take up to 128gb.
Then ofcourse everything as to match to that from there on :)

July 2, 2015 at 1:53AM, Edited July 2, 2:35AM

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Torben Greve
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I just upgraded to a 6-core i7 5820K and it cut general times by 50% compared to my old i7 4770. For video editing, you definitely want hyperthreading. If you want a 6+ core, you'll have to basically start over, which I don't necessarily recommend. An i7-4790K won't require a new mobo or RAM, is $340 on Amazon, and will crush what you currently have.

I also recommend Nvidia cards. I have a GTX 970, but if I had $2K to start with, I'd go for a 980 Ti no question. That thing is an absolute monster. Those two together will cost about $1K. Maybe consider liquid cooling for the CPU. It's got a 4 GHz base clock with a 4.4 GHz boost, so OC probably isn't necessary, but... I dunno. Maybe it could go up a bit more? Also get a decently sized SSD and a couple of external drives for backup. You may need to upgrade your PSU (we've got the same one, but I dunno how it would handle a 980 Ti). If you have money left over, more RAM.

You should be able to keep all that under $2K without much trouble.

July 2, 2015 at 9:32AM, Edited July 2, 9:37AM

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Alec Kubas-Meyer
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