November 6, 2014 at 12:07PM

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How would you rate Canon 70D?

I am thinking of purchasing Canon 70D with my main purpose being video and film production. My budget is quite constrained and I am getting this one with either the 18-135mm lens or 18-200mm lens...so what do you think about the camera? I have a Nikon D3000 but that doesnt support video and I am not buying a better Nikon because I have read that Canon's video component is much better...so if not Canon 70D, any other suggestions in Canon with similar range money wise? Thank You :)

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Canon's 70D "video component" is NOT better in any way, except for video autofocus. The Nikon D5200 / D5300 / D7100 all produce a much BETTER video image than any of the Canon APS-C cameras.

i.e. The video from the Nikon cameras I listed above have more detail, very little moire or aliasing, better dynamic range, and you can use custom Nikon picture profiles like the "Flaat" profile to maximize dynamic range from these cameras.

I would only look at the Canon 70D if you already own a lot of Canon lenses or if you really need good video autofocus, otherwise the Nikon cameras produce a BETTER video image than the Canons do.

November 6, 2014 at 1:33PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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Really? Every where I read and everyone I talked to told me Canon is better for video and Canon 70D is great for you at the moment...now I am confused again :/

Ritambhara Agrawal

November 11, 2014 at 11:36AM

Canon DSLR cameras are very popular, but when you compare the image they produce against the equivalent Nikon camera you can see that the Canon cameras are sometimes producing a much lower quality image.

Moire is a big problem with most Canon DSLR cameras. I shoot lots of corporate interviews where moire from the person's clothing can easily ruin your shot.

Here's a video that demos a $295 custom add-on for the 70D camera, that helps to control the Canon moire problem...

Optical Anti-Aliasing for Canon 70D Video
https://vimeo.com/76922520

With the Nikon DSLR cameras you won't have to spend $295 to get rid of moire because they don't have a moire problem.

Guy McLoughlin

November 12, 2014 at 6:57PM

Guy McLoughlin is bang on the money here, completely right. Nikon is blowing Canon out of the water in both photography and filming with DSLRs. *ESPECIALLY* in the APS-C market! I have been shooting professionally with a Nikon D5200 this year (pretty comparable to the much more expensive 5Dmk3: http://www.eoshd.com/2013/02/nikon-d5200-vs-canon-5d-mark-iii/ ), though I did just buy on the weekend a Sony A5100 on sale for just US$330 which I expect will become my next primary camera. (as the A5100 is a way better camera than a stock 5DmkIII is) So yeah, go for Sony/Nikon/Panasonic but *NOT* Canon!

David Peterson

December 7, 2014 at 8:13PM

I have a 70D and have used both canon and Nikon in the past and I would give it a 7/10
would get hire if it 60fps at 1080p and had a few more user functions. Canon offers custom picture profiles and Technicolor offers a cinestyle profile for canon DSLRs
http://www.technicolor.com/en/solutions-services/cinestyle Don't listen to these Nikon fanboys lol.

December 7, 2014 at 6:31PM, Edited December 7, 6:31PM

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Michael Militscher
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Have you however used a more recent Nikon which does well with video such as the D5200? Too many people are basing their opinions on Nikon due to very old ones such as the D3100, D90, D300s, D3s, etc... it is 2014 (nearly 2015!) now, and Nikon has been improving a lot since then. While Canon has stagnant and gone nowhere, pretty sad really how they're ignoring their DSLR filmmakers user base.

Here you can see how the Nikon D5200 compares against the best of Canon's DSLRs, the very expensive 5DmkIII. (Well... if you ignore the insanely priced 1DC, which is ridiculous):
http://www.eoshd.com/2013/02/nikon-d5200-vs-canon-5d-mark-iii/ http://www.eoshd.com/2013/02/nikon-d5200-review/ http://rungunshoot.com/nikon-d5200-studio-and-documentary-footage/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EANtxttUjIo

Or check out the A6000 which take the great sensor from the D5200 and puts it in a mirrorless body (yay!), then adds more extra features on top.
http://www.eoshd.com/2014/04/surprise-sony-alpha-a6000-video-mode-huge-i...

Alternatively, you can get the A5100 for even cheaper than the A6000.

The A5100 is basically the same camera as the A6000, but you lose the EVF and a few buttons, but you gain a touch screen and XAVCS codec. Which is a net gain in my books for filming with. I just picked up an A5100 myself for only US$330 thanks to the Black Friday sales.

David Peterson

December 7, 2014 at 8:18PM

>>>Don't listen to these Nikon fanboys lol

Not a Nikon fanboy. I've mainly shot with Panasonic GHx cameras over the past 4 years, and currently shoot with Panasonic GH3 and GH4 cameras.

Before this I owned and shot with Canon cameras. ( Canon 30D, Canon 40D, Canon 60D, and I rented Canon 5D Mk2 and Canon 5D Mk3 cameras for commercial projects )

I've also shot with a few Nikon cameras and two Sony cameras. Choosing between the Canon and Nikon consumer cameras I would always pick Nikon over Canon to shoot video, mainly because Nikon does not have the moire and aliasing problems that the Canon cameras have.

Nikon also has picture profiles, including the very handy FLAAT video picture profiles by Samuel Hurtado...

http://www.similaar.com/foto/flaat-picture-controls/index.html

December 7, 2014 at 7:38PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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Ditto, I'm not a Nikon fanboy either, even though currently I shoot with a Nikon. I've shot with a LOT of different cameras over the years, too many to list, and from many different brands (Canon, Nikon, Sony, RED, Panasonic, Blackmagic Design, etc) and from my perspective Nikon is waaaay out ahead of Canon in both photography stills and filming. (especially if you're looking for an APS-C DSLR, which most newbies are) So no, I'm not a Nikon fanboy, I'm just simply a fan of what is good! And for most people I'd even recommend one of the Sony (A6000 or A5100) or Panasonic (G6/GX7/GM1) cameras over a Nikon.

David Peterson

December 7, 2014 at 8:21PM

Texture wise if you are into cinema its a nice thing to have, people talk about AF but if you are serous about video then the last thing on your mind is AF. Its a proper camera and very cutomizable. And remember, its kool to have good gear but it whose hand its in that makes the difference

December 11, 2014 at 11:24AM

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Wentworth Kelly
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If I can give an advise, don't use Flaat profile, first it ruins skin tones, then as you are not showing raw, your flat profile will introduce banding and compression artifact. My favorite profile picture is VisionColor, way better than Flaat and technicolor cinestyle !
http://www.vision-color.com/visioncolor-for-canon-eos/

April 1, 2015 at 8:37PM

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AvdS
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I own the 70d and love it. The autofocus makes life so much easier for a lot of run and gun situations. And one of the things I personally found to help a ton with dynamic range is the Technicolor Cinestyle picture profile. It essentially allows you to lower the contrast further than the stock picture profiles allow. If you want to see an example, I have a quick comparison here between the canon 70d’s Neutral and Cinestyle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxQN0Exv9Sg

I think you might find it interesting.

There's a good bit of debate out there on whether or not Cinestyle causes banding or makes it more difficult to bring back proper color, but I've had really good experiences with it. Hope you enjoy whatever you decide to purchase!

May 5, 2015 at 1:28PM

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For the price, the BMPCC or BMCC will outperform pretty much any DSLR with regard to color quality and dynamic range. Many people are not comfortable with these cameras however, as they require a modicum of effort & skill in post grading. Though I don't fully understand all of the reasons, I have also noticed that neophyte movie makers tend to be overly concerned with low light performance and sharpness at the expense of color response and dynamic range. IMHO, for the money, you can get far superior images with the Blackmagic as compared to the 70D. That being said, I have seen beautiful images from pretty much all low end Canon cameras when the lighting is suitably matched to the sensor. You might also check out the G4, if you are interested in better performance for the buck, but Canon is fine. In the end, if you are a proficient and creative photographer and story teller, the camera won't have much of an effect on the impact that your videos have on the viewer.

April 18, 2016 at 2:49PM

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