October 4, 2016 at 7:13PM

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Sample footage help!

Anyone have or know of some sample footage with the following setups? I've spent countless hours diving to the depths of both vimeo and youtube and I end up with reviews more often than not that spit out the same initial complaints.

Panasonic DVX200

Sony a7rii a7sii fs5 with nikon glass via vello or commlite adaptors

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Are you looking for native camera footage that you can check out with your editor, or are you looking for a comparison between these cameras ?

For me the distinction between these cameras is pretty clear...

Panasonic DVX200 ENG Style Camera
- Micro 4/3 ENG style camera with long zoom lens. ( I haven't shot with one, but I believe the lens is "parfocal" but it might be doing this electronically. Optically parfocal is better, but also a LOT more expensive ) The internally recorded V-Log feature of this camera is better than the GH4 V-log, as it shows much less green/magenta noise. For live-events this would be a great camera.

Sony A7R II Mirror-less Camera
- Full frame sensor camera, better in low-light than APS-C or Micro 4/3 cameras, shoots 42 Mpx still-photos.

Sony A7S II Mirror-less Camera
- Full frame sensor camera, best low-light camera available, shoots 12 Mpx still-photos.

The semi-famous YouTuber, Dave Dugdale, switched from Canon 5D Mk3 to the Panasonic GH4, and then to the Sony A7S II and Sony A7R II cameras. Dave has produced a video where he compares shooting with the Sony A7S II and A7R II over the past 8 months, and reveals at the end that he uses the A7R II for almost ALL of his video shoots. Watch his video to find out why : https://goo.gl/4cIXYz

Sony FS5 Cine Camera
- Super35 cine camera, good in low-light, has XLR audio inputs, wide range of shooting CODECs and bit-rates. Great affordable cine camera. Does NOT shoot still photos. ( If it was me, I would spend the extra money to buy the FS7 to shoot 4K 10-bit 4:2:2 footage, instead of the FS5. FS7 is bigger and bulkier, but has some higher end features over the FS5. )

October 4, 2016 at 10:17PM, Edited October 4, 10:17PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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I could only wish I had an editor haha but I am a one man shop. I've got a solid Nikon setup for photography, and I'd like to have a separate setup dedicated to video.

Due to budget constraints going with a full sony setup with lenses etc isn't in the picture right away hence why I'm looking for footage with nikon glass.

The dvx200 has always intrigued me as a simple setup maybe a bit big for packing into the backcountry but at least I wouldn't have to lug multiple lenses around.

I almost sold off my Nikon gear for an a7rii setup but I never really got any takers. I've followed Dave's stuff and the only reason I asked about the a7sii is to see the nikon glass on a sony setup.

I want to rent a setup before purchasing, but I have some time before I'll be able to get out and really test them so in the meantime I'm stuck watching / searching for convincing footage.

Thanks for putting together a solid post!

Austin Wesnitzer

October 5, 2016 at 12:46AM

>>> I've got a solid Nikon setup for photography, and I'd like to have a separate setup dedicated to video.

I own eight Nikon AI-S lenses that I use with my Panasonic GH4 cameras, along with a few dedicated Micro 4/3 lenses. I shoot a lot of interviews and I prefer the softer / lower contrast image from the Nikon AI-S glass over the maybe too-sharp Micro 4/3 lenses. Because of the GH4 sensor size, you can't use Nikon glass for anything wider than "normal" focal lengths, so I use Micro 4/3 lenses for wide shots.

I've also shot with a friend's Sony FS5 camera with Nikon G lenses against my GH4 set-up, and found it was very easy to get almost identical images from these two camera systems. The Sony was a "touch" sharper overall ( which might have been the difference between my older AI-S lenses versus the brand new G lenses ), but I was kind of surprised at how similar the finished image was. ( this was all shot in bright light, where I know the FS5 would have killed my GH4 in low-light situations, but I almost always light my shots so I don't need low-light performance )

October 5, 2016 at 1:19AM

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Guy McLoughlin
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Awesome any chance you have a link to the footage?

Austin Wesnitzer

October 5, 2016 at 10:37PM

>>>Awesome any chance you have a link to the footage?

It was purely test footage shot from the roof of my friends house in bright sunlight, and all I wanted to see was how well the two camera systems would mix together in terms of color and contrast. I did not keep any of the footage once I was done.

Also, I did not shoot with LOG profiles as I wanted to see what the image was like straight out of the camera. I know that the GH4 LOG has a green-magenta "fleck" problem when shooting internal, so I would expect better performance from the FS5 when shooting internal LOG footage. ( the upcoming GH5 with 4K 10-bit 4:2:2 internal recording should have much better LOG performance than the GH4 )

The main take-away for me was that these two cameras could be used together on the same shoot, provided you weren't shooting in low-light. The FS5 is the better camera, but the finished image ( when shooting in bright light with no LOG profile ) was remarkably similar.

October 10, 2016 at 9:03PM, Edited October 10, 9:10PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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Hard to believe nobody has seen anything or shot anything with the dvx200 or a sony with nikon glass... How about some XF200 or Z100 or comparable stuff?

October 13, 2016 at 3:19PM, Edited October 13, 3:19PM

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Checking Vimeo.com, there are currently about 20 videos tagged for the XF200 and the same for the Z100. The DVX200 has about 120 videos tagged on Vimeo.

I've heard that the DVX200 can produce a better image than the GH4 can. ( especially with the V-Log profile )

I prefer to shoot almost everything with prime lenses if I can, but occasionally I shoot with an ENG camera just because it's faster to work with and when ENG quality is good enough.

I had a Panasonic HMC-150 for about 5 years, and currently have access to a Sony X70 camera. The X70 is a great little ENG camera, but I hate the camera controls. ( almost everything is set with tiny little buttons )

If I was going to buy another ENG camera I would definitely check out the new Panasonic UX180 camera that should be shipping very soon. ( 4K 60p with Panasonic color, and proper sized camera controls )

Guy McLoughlin

October 15, 2016 at 12:55AM

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