September 29, 2015 at 5:40PM

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a7S II really worth the upgrade?

Hi Guys.
I Just was thinking, if the a7S II would be a really good upgrade from the a7S. Is it the best DSLM out there? What would you buy? a7S II or a7R II? Do you believe that the overheating issues are fixed?

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Lets see if it has the overheating problem that a7r II has. If it does, then its as useful as the I<3NY plastic mugs. If it does not then I'll upgrade -- the image stabilization and the 120fps do mean that much to me.

September 29, 2015 at 7:36PM

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Alex Zakrividoroga
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Do you have a a7s? Are you satisfied with it? Are 12 MP enough for pictures? Or would it be better to go with the a7R II? :)

September 30, 2015 at 4:44PM

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I got A7S in April. First used L glass with metabones adapter then got Rokinon DS line to compare. Finally sold the L glass keeping only the Rokinons.

12 MP is more than enough for me. I mean look at the wall-sized billboards shot with iphone 6 and i think iphone 6 is under 10 MP.

A few jpgs - the raws are obviously better:

https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B6xL_gxIHZfkRnJlbkh3dmdpaEU/edit

I am not gonna use 4K for the next 2 year because it chews through storage.

Whats really important for me is the low light capability that A7S has. People that never tried it will rationalize why it is not important. I think it takes like a few shootings for ut to grow on you. During fasion week i was shooting a show at iso 10,000 - after all there are times when you cant light up what you shoot.

Finally about color science and skin tones - if you know how to grade then its not even important. If you cant then yea people hide that by saying they prefer another camera's colors. Since Resolve 12 is free that excuse is really lame.

September 30, 2015 at 6:30PM

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Alex Zakrividoroga
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Thank you very much for this answer. Well for me it is all about 4K and so I don't know which one to get. There are 2 possibilities for me, a7S II or a7 + an external recorder. This would be a lot bigger and I don't know if there is any difference in Video between prores and xavcs.

I don't think the a7s II will overheat too, because it's the filmcamera from sony. But I really don't know what to do. What would you do if you have to buy a new camera and need 4K? Is the 5-axis stabi really worth the extra money?

October 1, 2015 at 1:32AM

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For me it would all come down to the question: Does it overheat when shooting 4K ?

...Because if it does, then maybe keeping the original A7S and buying a good 4K recorder like the $1,195 Video Devices PIX-E5H is a better investment.

We should know very soon if the A7S II has the same overheating problem that the A7R II does.

September 29, 2015 at 10:29PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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Maybe a7s with an external Recorder would be the better and cheaper option for me? Do you think it would be better? a7s II has the same sensor so there should be no difference in the picture...

September 30, 2015 at 4:43PM, Edited September 30, 4:43PM

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Most of the time I am going to want to shoot with an external monitor, so having one that is a little bigger that also records very high quality 4K video seems like an ideal situation.

I think there are many people who want to know if the A7S II overheats when recording long form 4K video. I know for myself, I would hesitate buying a camera if it did this. ( I don't want to have to tell people to chill out while my overheated camera has to cool down, or have to bring along a second camera because the first one has overheated. ) I am hoping that Sony has fixed this issue with the new A7S II.

September 30, 2015 at 4:58PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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That's very true and I wouldn't buy it too. I want do buy a new camera and be between the a7s II and the a7s. I just want to know if there is that big difference with the 5-axis system and xavcs vs prores. I really need 4K and this low light capability. If you were me, what would you do?

October 1, 2015 at 1:37AM

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I would wait until we have proper reviews of the A7S II camera...

In the meantime you should take a look at Dave Dugdale's review of the Sony A7R II, which does a pretty good job of covering what the 5-axis camera stabilizer can do.

Dave Dugdale Review of the Sony A7R II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqjTSNOoLC0

October 1, 2015 at 2:36PM, Edited October 1, 2:36PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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The E5 pairs very well with the A7s. 4K looks great, no issues so far. I use it for interviews and with the Ronin M as a monitor/recorder. Great piece of kit.

November 16, 2015 at 12:42PM

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Isn't this al speculation untill the A7S II is available?
The proof is always in the eating of the pudding, not in reading recipies...

October 1, 2015 at 2:00PM

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WalterBrokx
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You are going to pay over $1000 more for the A7sII from the original, so you have to ask yourself is internal 4k, 1080p instead of 720p at 120fps and S-Log3 worth the money?

December 20, 2015 at 9:07PM

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