February 9, 2015 at 1:42PM

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Getting into/back into Film advice.

Hi guys - so this is going to be a bit of a long one, but I sincerely want your advice on this, I know there isn't a set way to do this, however advice imparted from individuals who have done a similar thing (I.E you guys) before helps, simply, so;

I started my career a few years ago now, I did a small stint with an English TV company as a clip logger for a documentary they were making (first and only paid job) and I didn't really like the environment there - couldn't and still can't place my finger on why -
I then started running for lo - no pay projects, and worked my way up that way speaking to a couple of DP's and Cam ops, and soon worked my way up to Camera Opping - after a few more times Operating on various jobs I moved onto DPing some projects - almost all of these jobs were with DSLRs (with the exception of C100 gig) and ALL were expenses only I sometimes ACed but most of the time was working as the cinematographer. After about a year of doing this I picked up my first feature film which I DPed - again DSLR - I then took a year break after this, due to personal reasons and I'm now back I've re-edited my show reel and applied for a few jobs - now I'm in a sticky situation more so than before -
I'm 25 years old, I no longer live near London (not that I was close before) but I live in North Dorset (train is a bout 2 hours from London)
I don't drive either, I'm learning however, I've only got real experience with DSLR's and using the c100 a couple of times, how, do you guys advice I go on? As I sit here and type this I keep getting hot flushes thinking What the hell will I do? But here's my overall idea right now -

I've got my self a fulltime job - use the money from this to learn to drive ASAP (a matter of months) buy a car then drop down to part time, perhaps sell my DSLR and purchase a c100 and hire myself out to people from the likes of mandy.com, other such websites and the couple of contacts I know as either an AC Or an OP, purchase a nice set of lenses too if possible (I'm fully aware of the price of what I'm looking at to purchase all of this stuff) -
The only real light at the end of the tunnel at the moment, like I mentioned was the full time job I have which will enable me to learn to drive, thus transporting myself MUCH easier than public transport, also I have a meeting with the directors of a local arts center who want me to essentially run their film department (very small village arts center, not like a big town etc) and I have a couple of scripts I could have produced with those guys provided people get interested in the film side of things - so I could also get together a small team there (pending on wether or not people would want to get involved) to have some decent short films made too to get some more stuff out there, also expanding the interest there in the local community.

My question really is does this all sounds plausible, or am I just desperately plunging into the dark and the only real way to find it is to really execute this plan? Would you guys do this any differently?
Like I've said at the start, I know there isn't really

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a set way of doing things, however I would really appreciate your two cents!

Thanks guys!

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February 9, 2015 at 1:43PM

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I am guessing that your full time job is not related to film-making ?

There are lots of Indie film-makers that do something else to make a living and make Indie films in their spare time, which is probably a good idea if you don't live in a large city where full-time film production work is possible.

February 9, 2015 at 3:29PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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Unfortunately it's not film making.
THank you for replying

February 9, 2015 at 3:30PM

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I wouldnt worry too much about the path to success, I to am on the same sort of journey you are (sort of) It has its ups and downs. The problem with this industry is that there are no clear ways of measuring success. Just keep working, Also contact me privately as I live in england too and its always nice to have people to talk to about cameras

February 9, 2015 at 8:50PM

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Luke Jennings
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See thats what I was thinking, just roll with it and go with my instincts, but like I said really was just wondering your guys advice thats all.

Looked on your profile and wasn't too sure how to contact you privately, I can give you my email or you give me yours if you wish?

February 10, 2015 at 4:39AM

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Don't over think it, at least you know your passion. The plan you have can work but don't hold hard and fast to it because things change. The important thing is that you continue to push forward because its your passion and dream. Just do it dude!

February 10, 2015 at 11:42AM

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Wentworth Kelly
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Thank you man :) really appreciate that

February 10, 2015 at 12:16PM

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I've found that even with a plan in place, once executed, it's still like plunging into the dark because circumstances change for better or worse. You kind of have to roll with it while controlling what you can. Just learning this myself.

February 10, 2015 at 2:33PM

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Don Way
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Sound advice! thank you! Adjust and adapt.

February 12, 2015 at 6:25AM

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I am a long ways away from where i want to be but my income does come from working on set. It's hard to tell what will set you on the right path but new ideas definitely will help you stand out and worked for me. I developed and web app, dayplayerapp.com, for the industry and lots of people liked it. That got my name out there. Understand though it's not the first you unique idea i have had but, its the one that got me stable work. The good school or good idea will double your chances but they are pretty small chances to begin with. Don't mean to be a Debbie downer but it is tough and there are no promises of success. Some one will get the job you want and all you can do is try to make that person you. Best wishes.

February 11, 2015 at 12:37PM

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Jeffrey Siljenberg
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Yeah man, I know a couple of people who have landed jobs because of the success of a simple idea, and some people have got the job just because of their simple and raw talent, but yeah I know what you mean - it is going to be hard, but much like you've all really said and I still think now, just keep trying and keep with the passion and keep going I guess - Have a few meetings lined up and a couple of scripts I want to produce too, so I'll start there :) Thanks!

February 12, 2015 at 6:25AM

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The best thing to do is take small steps everyday that are productive and that get you closer to your goals. These could be as small as showing up at your full time job everyday and giving 110% because you know eventually this will allow you to afford a car and open up your options to pursue film work. But everyday do something. No matter how small it might seem. Eventually all of those small steps add up to big ones. It seems like you already have some experience so perhaps looking for an internship somewhere might be an easy way back into the industry?

Your location is also probably inhibiting you a bit. Is it totally out of the question for you to relocate to somewhere with a bigger film industry? Putting yourself in the center of the action is one of the quickest ways to make the right connections and move up in your field.

Depending on what you want to do, you could also practice your craft everyday. You don't need a film crew to go out and shoot a film. You just have to get creative and figure out how to work with what you have. Got a camera? Got an idea? Got some friends that would be willing to spare some time? Use things like this to practice and perfect your craft. It also doesn't hurt to email all of the production companies around you and ask if you can send someone your resume or portfolio even if they aren't hiring.

Hope this helps!

-Ant

February 13, 2015 at 10:56AM

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Anthony Reese Schneider
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Thanks a lot man! all sound advice.

Unfortunaltey I cannot re-locate at the moment due to money essentially. However will be looking to later this year or next year.

Again thank you very much!

February 16, 2015 at 11:43AM

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