August 31, 2016 at 4:17PM

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Panasonic GH5 on its way

The new specs from the rumor mill are getting better and better:

- 10bit 4K@60p 4:2:2
- No crop on 4K video
- Dual SD slots
- 6K@30p photo mode (probably burst speed)

In the mean time the new G80/85 will be announced soon.

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The 10-bit 4:2:2 is internal, which is a very big deal. People are also speculating that it might have 12-bit 4:2:2 external output, which would be pretty nice to work with.

August 31, 2016 at 5:01PM, Edited August 31, 5:03PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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I'm sorry, but 10bit 4k 4:2:2 at 60P??? Really??? I would be shocked if it has any 60P at 4K at all. The C300 II doesn't even have that. Any info on how true these rumors might be? If they really are true, this camera is going to absolutely destroy the market. I heard from a very reliable source that there will be two different models--anyone know about this??

September 2, 2016 at 8:46PM

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I am skeptical on the 4K 60p, but who knows maybe Panasonic has pulled a rabbit out of their hat. It's been more than 2 years since the GH4 came out, so Panasonic had a lot of time to cook up another winner. Fingers crossed.

September 5, 2016 at 8:52AM

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Guy McLoughlin
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Canon is always behind spec wise anyway. (Although the image is lovely)

September 6, 2016 at 11:18AM

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WalterBrokx
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I would definitely be shocked too, but if it happens it would be awesome.

September 6, 2016 at 1:12PM

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We will know on September 19.

September 2, 2016 at 11:34PM

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Cary Knoop
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Or, if there is no real announcement on Sept. 19th, then we will only be certain that we still don't know yet.

September 3, 2016 at 2:56PM, Edited September 3, 2:56PM

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Sean Bokenkamp
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They will announce the G80/85 and show the GH5 pre-production model.

September 3, 2016 at 5:10PM

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Cary Knoop
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So far no GH5 rumor has proven true.
But hopefully you're right.

September 4, 2016 at 9:40AM, Edited September 4, 9:39AM

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Sean Bokenkamp
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Panasonic has not said ANYTHING about the GH5 so far, so how can a rumor be true or false if we don't know ANYTHING about the GH5.

This is all supposed to change with a Panasonic press conference on Monday September 19th, where they are supposed to reveal their current GH5 prototype camera, which should start to give us a good idea about what they plan on delivering in the GH5 camera.

September 15, 2016 at 7:56PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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Any guaranteed specs? I may pull the trigger on this baby, I heard nothing but good things about the GH4.

September 5, 2016 at 7:32AM

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Nathan Karimi
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The GH5 won't ship unitl Spring 2017, so you have another 6 months to wait before you can buy it.

September 5, 2016 at 8:49AM

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Guy McLoughlin
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G80 is going to be out soon and may have 4:2:2 color.
Basically twice as much as color information as 4:2:0.

The question is will it have IBIS?

September 5, 2016 at 3:57PM

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Cary Knoop
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Bear in mind it's a micro four-thirds sensor, and the GH4 starts getting noisy at 1000 ISO. I'm optimistic about the GH5 but keeping my expectations in check to avoid disappointment.

September 6, 2016 at 10:33PM

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Scott Pinzon
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I shoot a maximum of ISO 800 on my GH4. But that has always been enough. Lately ive shot a lot outdoors in daylight. And when shooting inside I always light my shots anyway

September 7, 2016 at 12:27AM, Edited September 7, 12:27AM

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Adrian Maurud
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Just ordered a GX80 for a trip, so I'll see how the IBIS works with my Sigma 18-35. I'm a staunch c100 user but needed something small as a backup.

I once owned a GH3 and loved it's reliability, battery life and all but I didn't really like the colour and skin tones all that much. From what I've seen the sensor on the GX80 looks a little better so I think the GH5 could be a winner if it can squeeze some more dynamic range in. I'd take skin tones and dynamic range over any other features to be honest.

September 7, 2016 at 3:45AM

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Liam Martin
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These "fantasy" specs are from the current Panasonic Varicam LT; I doubt Panasonic can or want to distill that camera in a SLR sized camera. The GH2 and GH3 were both 1080 cams and close in specs; this camera will be close in specs to the GH4.
10-Bit 422? Likely. And AVC-I & Pro-Res for sure. Or H265...gasp!
60p? Doubt it. 60p @ 2K probably. And 240 fps in 1080p.
The LT has an EF mount; the GH5 will probably have an M43 mount..like always.
Not Sony low-light @ 800 to 12800 ISO.
Dual SD? Doubt it. MicroP2 card slot? Hmmm.
Better audio interface like Sony? Probably. And no more YAGH.

September 7, 2016 at 5:01PM, Edited September 7, 5:06PM

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Sathya Vijayendran
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>>>10-Bit 422? Likely.

Yes, it's possible. Panasonic doesn't have any mid-range pro camera to protect, so why not go for it if the GH5 can do it.

>>>And AVC-I & Pro-Res for sure. Or H265...gasp!

I strongly suspect that it's going to be the same h.264 CODEC that the GH4 uses, but with higher bit-rates and 10-bit encoding. ( the h.264 format already supports 10-bit video )

>>>60p? Doubt it. 60p @ 2K probably. And 240 fps in 1080p.

I have my doubts too. We will have to see what gets announced on September 19th.

>>>The LT has an EF mount; the GH5 will probably have an M43 mount..like always.

Yes, it will have a Micro 4/3 mount, which has lots of EF adapters, so no problem with most Canon lenses.

>>>Not Sony low-light @ 800 to 12800 ISO.

We might get high quality 1600 ISO, but I'm not expecting more than this. Light your shots and everything is fine.

>>>Dual SD? Doubt it. MicroP2 card slot? Hmmm.

This might happen as the Olympus EM-1 Mk2 is supposed to have dual SD slots. Micro P2 is a dead-duck. SDXC V60 and SDXC V90 cards might be a possibility.

>>>Better audio interface like Sony? Probably.

I am not crazy about the Sony adapter. I would prefer a battery-grip with audio ports, but nothing like the crazy YAGH.

September 8, 2016 at 4:45PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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If the footage from GH5 sensor has the same appealing characteristics as the GX80/GX85, I'll get it.

September 8, 2016 at 9:31PM, Edited September 8, 9:32PM

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Marc B
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I agree, the GX80/85's sensor's colors are an improvement over the GH4/G7 sensor.

I also like the video levels (including the over 100% peaks), I do not miss the data levels that were available on the GH4/G7.
However you do have to bring them into legal to prevent clipping in an NLE or when they are rendered extended to data levels!

September 8, 2016 at 11:16PM, Edited September 8, 11:17PM

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Cary Knoop
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If this is so... Canon... You Dead! take crop factor and all of that out of it.. so many speed boosters available.. sure win!

September 9, 2016 at 3:28PM

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Wentworth Kelly
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Just been shooting a bit of b-roll with the GX80 over the last week. It's fine. Colours are nice and it's sharp and there's more detail than I expected. The image isn't a patch on my c100 though. It lacks the character and detail that is so appealing, so I wouldn't say Canon is dead. I would say that their DSLR's will be used less and less by filmmakers and more by wedding/combo shooters etc. C100/C300 and who knows maybe even c700 owners/renters will continue because they're different beasts.

But the GX80 image looks noisier, over sharpened and has less character than my ancient spec'd c100. So they're very, very different tools once you look at the image instead of the specs.

September 14, 2016 at 2:24AM

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Liam Martin
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The settings are everything with Panasonic's Micro 4/3 cameras, and you have to process your footage in post to achieve the best image these cameras can produce. I haven's seen any C100 1080p footage that looks more detailed than GH4 4K footage, or GH4 4K footage properly down-rezzed to 1080p. As for character, there is a very wide range of looks possible with the GH4, it all depends on your settings and post production process.

The C100 produces a great 1080p image, it's also really good in low-light situations, and it's got proper XLR audio inputs. The GH4 also produces a great image, as long as you stay away from low-light shooting.

September 15, 2016 at 8:03PM, Edited September 15, 8:03PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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