January 14, 2015 at 6:33PM

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Trying to ditch my DSLR...

I have a Nikon D800 and am trying to switch to something even more "filmy".
I've had my eyes on the Blackmagic line of products for sometime now and wanted to see what you guys thought of this:

I posted on Craigslist to trade my camera with some accessories for a Blackmagic Package.
Here's one offer I got:
"I have a back up Blackmagic Cinema Camera that I rarely use as I got the 4K BMPC a couple of months after I purchased it in April 2014. I have the EF Mount along with a $175 Cage that I have not taken off of it since I bought it. I have the original box and covers. I would throw in a 240 GB Sandisk Extreme II SSD valued about $200 on NewEgg and Amazon. "

Would this be worth the trade and how much more money can I expect to spend before having a short film/music video ready rig? I already have Nikon glass that I'm holding on to so an adapter would be all I need for right now.

Thanks so much!

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And keep in mind they are offering me the 2.5K version.

January 14, 2015 at 6:34PM

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Ian
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If you can, rent or borrow a BMCC to be sure you like working with this camera ( or even ask the guy who wants to trade to test-drive his camera ) before making the trade. Because once you commit you better be sure you like what you're getting.

January 14, 2015 at 8:33PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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I would VERY strongly advise against getting a BMCC EF, as now the BMCC MFT and BMPCC are finally shipping (and have been for quite a while too) you are not forced to get a BMCC EF.

As that EF mount is a huge as hindrance to going wide as you can't use a focal reducer with it.

January 15, 2015 at 1:38AM

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David Peterson
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Like McLoughlin, I suggest you get your hands on one first and test it out. I've worked with both BMCC and BMPCC and I can say the quality is amazing, but it comes at the compromise of convenience; battery, ergonomics etc.

Nothing to major I think. If you strive for the best end result, it's nothing.

If you enjoy using a BMCC, then I think this is a pretty decent deal.

After that, I recommend getting the Speedbooster. (Reduces crop factor and gives you an extra stop of light!) A solid battery pack or two. A couple of SSDs, size depending on what you need to shoot.

Since you have the glass and you're getting a cage, should be all set.

All the best! Do let us know what you decided

January 15, 2015 at 9:21PM

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skay
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Like McLoughlin, I suggest you get your hands on one first and test it out. I've worked with both BMCC and BMPCC and I can say the quality is amazing, but it comes at the compromise of convenience; battery, ergonomics etc.

Nothing to major I think. If you strive for the best end result, it's nothing.

If you enjoy using a BMCC, then I think this is a pretty decent deal.

After that, I recommend getting the Speedbooster. (Reduces crop factor and gives you an extra stop of light!) A solid battery pack or two. A couple of SSDs, size depending on what you need to shoot.

Since you have the glass and you're getting a cage, should be all set.

All the best! Do let us know what you decided

January 15, 2015 at 9:21PM

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skay
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Hey.
Thank you guys for the responses!
To be honest, I don't like Canon at all, but I thought it being the BMCC and all...it might be worth a shot. But I think I will look elsewhere.
I'm also being offered a BMPCC with accessories.
I really want to try the BMPCC with those Kiev 16U lenses! It looks like a beautiful combo!

Anyone have experience with that setup?

Thank you again!

January 15, 2015 at 10:16PM

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Ian
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I don't have Kiev lenses, but the BMPCC is a great camera. I bought one and have zero regrets. Lightweight, shoots beautiful footage. I always shoot in raw for that extra detail and latitude in post. The BMCC - don't get it. We have one for our church film/video team, and it is a heavy beast. The battery pack solution too? Makes it even heavier on a rig. Now the BMPCC and its battery pack (just two repurposed lp-e6 batteries from switronix - or you can do a DIY version) won't break your back - again, it's light. To boot, the M4/3 mount is a win, and the memory card is an SD card, which it appears your 800 uses anyways. With the recent updates, you can format your SD cards in camera too.

January 17, 2015 at 12:17PM

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Jake,

Thank you so much for the response!
Literally, right as I was reading your post, I got an email from someone offering to trade for either a Pocket OR a 2.5k MFT.
Decisions, decisions...
I have used the BMPCC though and loved it...minus the battery.

January 18, 2015 at 2:21AM

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Ian
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I think that if your goal is to be more filmic, that buying a new camera will not get you there. Learn to light a set like film, props like film, good acting and good script. I know this is not what you want to hear, but if you want it to look like film, then you have to do all the things that shooters on film will do, choice of camera is way down in the priority, your craft, knowledge, experience and talent not a new camera will get you there, getting off the couch and B and H equipment catalogs will not get you there, making more films will.

October 26, 2015 at 7:16PM

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You're better off getting the MFT version and using a speedbooster. The EF mount cements you into a large crop factor. Otherwise the BMCC or the Pocket camera both shoot really nice footage. The pitfalls are the miserable screen on both cameras as well as the horrendous battery life.

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Logan Fish
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