October 30, 2014 at 9:18PM

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Workflow Woes

Hey everyone,

So I shot this talk-show type thing where two hosts talked to alumni at a homecoming game (I work at a high school.) Since I'm the school's only video guy, I was literally jumping between two dSLRs with a GoPro catching a wide shot from the coffee table. I had second system sound with the anchors passing around a handheld mic.

On top of all of this, the dSLR batteries would periodically die and/or the memory cards from all three cameras would run out of space.

What this is all leading up to is the massive headache of editing all this footage. I have the unbroken second system audio which clocks in at just under two hours, and the dSLR stuff is a mess. Not only are they broken into 12 minute files, I have all those gaps from having to change batteries and run up to my office to free up the memory cards. Oh, and I had shotgun mics mounted on the dSLRs and one of them died so I can't easily sync via waveforms for that stuff.

Is there a right way to go about my process in Premiere CC? Normally, I'd grin and bear the clunkiness of how I had to shoot it and post would be merely annoying... but that's if I had only shot twelve minutes or whatever. But I'm tasked with condensing two hours into a two minute highlight reel and it feels like a nightmare. I'm about 10 hours into editing this project and maybe 20% done with the process. I've never had to work with this amount of footage before.

At first I listened through the audio and marked the usable quips and whatnot. But then half the time I'd be short on coverage because there were moment where I'm changing batteries or whatever and all I'm left with is a static close up on one face for a three person conversation.

I'm not even sure what I'm asking at this point. I think I'm just tired and frustrated and needed to complain on the internet. =P

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You probably don't have any budget for new gear, but Panasonic GH3 and GH4 cameras get 3+ hours of shooting per battery, and have no time limit, so you can shoot 3 hour takes provided your memory card has room to hold them.

I would also handle audio separately, and manually sync in post. Using Sony Vegas Pro I can sync a 3 hour video to a separate audio track in about 10 seconds. ( it has a very easy to use time-stretching feature that makes it easy to match video tracks to audio tracks )

Sony Vegas Pro also has a very good multi-camera editing feature. ( you can download a trial copy to test this out )

October 31, 2014 at 2:04AM

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Guy McLoughlin
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I am with Guy. GH3 or 4 is the best option. Blackmagic pocket camera is a nice option too. Long batteries and memories with only limito to the card you have.

October 31, 2014 at 4:16AM

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Ragüel Cremades
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Thanks for the feedback guys. I was actually considering a C100 down the line... it's pricey but ease-of-use is paramount to me. I've got a collection of decent Canon glass too.

I know Premiere has a multicam feature, but it didn't work when I first tried it. Maybe I'll give it another go today.

October 31, 2014 at 1:04PM

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I have invested in 1000x 64 GB cards for my cameras to make sure I never bump into the memory issue while doing a project like the one you mentioned above. That helps a lot with not worrying about the cards running out. I also ask the client if there is a mixer present that would supply the house audio so I could run a line in with a portable recorder like the H4N to have one solid audio file for post. This makes the process a little easier but you definitely should look for another camera op for help to avoid a headache.

October 31, 2014 at 4:24PM

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Juan Ortiz
Producer At Redd Pen Media
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That's some good advice, Juan. I have a 64GB card on my own T4i, but the one I borrowed had a 16GB one. If I had more prep time I would have considered this stuff.

Believe me, I've campaigned for an intern many times already...

October 31, 2014 at 9:57PM

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There's a plugin called plural eyes that will sync all your footage for you. Except you would still have to do the clip without the shotgun mic manually. Besides that their really isn't a magic workflow. Without using multiclip i would just stack them up in a sequence and if it gets too crazy for your CPU then just make layers invisible when you work to use less RAM. Once you get you dialogue cut then go back and worry about which shot to use.

December 15, 2014 at 8:38PM

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Tim McDermott
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