July 14, 2016 at 1:47PM

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Adobe Premiere Pro desktop vs cloud

If pricing is not an issue, which are the pros & cons of having the desktop version installed vs the cloud access? Disk space, access speed, wifi availability, features & tools, etc...

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The latest Premiere Creative Cloud version is at least 2 generations ahead of the old Premiere Pro CS6, so apart from compatibility with new cameras and new formats, it has lots of new features, including a new code base that was designed to deliver maximum rendering performance.

Eventually Premiere Pro CS6 will be so old that it won't be able to work with any current camera formats.

I am not crazy about the cost of Creative Cloud, but Adobe has done a great job of keeping their product line up to date.

July 14, 2016 at 3:36PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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Thanks, compatibility & upgrades make a great point to consider... any pros that CS6 has and you miss in the cloud? I'm concerned you need Internet access all the time, or a substantial speed to work properly.

Pablo Goldbarg

July 14, 2016 at 4:49PM

Pablo, from the way you phrased your question, I'm not sure you're aware that Adobe CC DOES get installed on your computer...

July 14, 2016 at 4:06PM, Edited July 14, 4:06PM

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You're right. I meant it in terms of avoiding the need of cloud access, of course it's not a 100% internet-based tool... thanks for the clarification :)

Pablo Goldbarg

July 14, 2016 at 4:51PM

I agree and disagree with Guy on Adobe's Creative Cloud performance. As a RED user, Adobe left us twisting in the wind for nearly a year with respect to Weapon ProRes support. I've largely switched over to Blackmagic's Davinci Resolve, which has always been nearly instantaneous at supporting whatever new features RED releases in their SDKs.

The latest version of Adobe (released last month) has been more stable than any other I've used since CS6, and I'm glad for that. But years of misery with crashes and incomplete renders (on OSX) and missing features (for RED) have made me very reluctant to trust that their next release (or their current release) will work on whatever is the next firmware, hardware, or OS release I might run. If, after a year, it proves to be stable and it supports what should be some very exciting new graphics cards and cameras (Weapon 8K), then great! If not, I'll probably never use it again.

July 15, 2016 at 7:37AM

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I think the poster may be mistaken about what the cloud version entails.

It is really no different, it is simply a newer version of the product however the licensing terms are very different. With the cloud versions you effectively rent the software, once you stop paying you no longer can use the product.

This licensing model, I suspect, will soon become the industry standard for all proprietary software.

July 15, 2016 at 12:54PM

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Cary Knoop
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I was told that an internet connection was needed for several features and it wasn't possible to edit without being online. I read now that the connection is only needed to renew subscription...

Pablo Goldbarg

July 15, 2016 at 1:20PM

>>>I agree and disagree with Guy on Adobe's Creative Cloud performance. As a RED user, Adobe left us twisting in the wind for nearly a year with respect to Weapon ProRes support.

I think format support will always be dictated by how popular the format is. If it's an expensive camera I would not expect it to be as popular as something more affordable.

Panasonic currently has similar issues with Varicam LT support because no NLE system has proper support for it right now. Panasonic is working with a few companies but I don't expect to see it broadly supported until 2017. The Varicam LT is also going through firmware updates and RAW output still hasn't arrived yet, so things are in flux on both the firmware and NLE side of things. But they will get sorted out eventually.

>>>I've largely switched over to Blackmagic's Davinci Resolve, which has always been nearly instantaneous at supporting whatever new features RED releases in their SDKs.

I don't shoot with a RED, but my favorite NLE for the past 15 years has been Sony Vegas Pro, which has been bought by the German company MAGIX, so for the past year Sony has done no Vegas development and I've had to resort to using other software to make up for Vegas's current shortcomings. ( this includes using Blackmagic Resolve to import 4K camera footage that Vegas has trouble with and then spitting it out as Cineform 4K format which Vegas has no problems with )

If MAGIX is able to meet their deadline there will be a new MAGIX Vegas Pro 14 version out in September, which should fix most of my current Vegas Pro 13 issues.

The good news is that we have tons of different options to try if one software package has problems. ( I remember back in the 90's when your choice was either a million dollar AVID editing system or Adobe Premiere on an under-powered desktop PC )

July 15, 2016 at 4:46PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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