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I want to get a camera for film making and am confused between the canon 70d and the sony a6000
I'm not really a huge canon fan because their DSLRs don't have quite the video functions many people are looking for. But to me those cameras don't compare and if those were the only 2 you were looking at for some reason I would go with Canon.
One major question to answer is what type of films do you want to make, i.e. narrative, docs? Will you be shooting any events on the side?
October 5, 2015 at 9:14AM
I have read a lot that canon's are better for video (Don't know the actual reasons). I plan to shoot both narratives and docs. I won't be shooting any events. I was considering those cams because of the continuous AF for run and gun shoots.
October 5, 2015 at 10:36AM, Edited October 5, 10:38AM
>>>I have read a lot that canon's are better for video
Which is true when you are talking about Canon's excellent EOS Cine line of cameras: C100 and C300
...But not when you are talking Canon DSLR cameras. The Canon 70D has the best auto-focus of any DSLR, but it has the same aliasing and moire imaging problems that most Canon APS-C cameras have. ( the only models that do not have these problems are the Canon 7D Mk2 and the Canon 5D Mk3 cameras )
Around the same price range the Nikon D5200, D5300, D7100, D7200 cameras produce a better video image, have more dynamic range and limited aliasing or moire problems.
If you don't mind the smaller sensor size, the Panasonic G6, G7, GH3, GX7, GX8 cameras shoot extremely good video. ( the non-European version of the GH3 has no time limit on video recording, can record for 3+ hours using one battery, and is weather-proof so you can shoot in the rain or snow )
October 5, 2015 at 11:55AM, Edited October 5, 11:58AM
I have a Canon 70D, 60D and a Panasonic m43 camera. I agree, the 70D has outstanding auto-focus system. Magic Lantern firmware is higly recommeded for Canon DSLRs (at this moment, it is not yet ready for 70D), it boosts video capabilities, and bypasses the recording time limit. The Panasonic cameras are also very good, if you use them with very old and cheap manual Canon FD lenses, you can get very cinematic results. My favorites are the Canon FD 50 f1.4, the Canon FD 85 f1.2 (not so cheap) and the Canon FD 35-105 f3.5 lenses, they have great IQ and nice bokeh. If you shoot in low light, these fast lenses are very useful.
This long relaxing video was shoot with Canon 60D w/Magic Lantern, external battery and DC coupler:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJIYOPDFWBo
October 5, 2015 at 1:39PM
Thank you all for your comments. But why isn't any one talking about the sony a6000? Many photographers and videographers are going crazy over that camera on youtube. I was going to get the canon 70d but then heard about the a6000 and now can't make up my mind.
October 5, 2015 at 8:01PM, Edited October 5, 8:22PM
The a6000 overheats and shuts down when shooting video. Sony doesn't seem interested in solving that problem.
October 6, 2015 at 12:50AM
Really, what kind of situation was that? Is your comment based on your experience? I have done 2 and half hours live streaming on Sony A6000 without problems. I didn’t record to memory card, I used only HDMI out. I just wonder if any Canon DSLR can do the same, 2.5 hours video streaming without overheating.
March 6, 2016 at 11:40AM
Hey! I personally use the a6000 for video work!
The overheating issue is not something I experienced often has I don't shoot events and I'm really happy with it. A trick that helps is to put the LCD away from the back of the camera, it cools down a bit better like this.
All controls are enabled during capture (ISO, shutter and aperture), and the autofocus can offer really good cinematic results (set the AF drive speed to slow in the settings) and it will do amazing focus pulls!
The codec has also been updated (uses XAVCs compression at 50Mbps just like the a5100 now) so easier to grade.
You can also shoot with adapters and vintage lenses not to break the bank.
For the price I don't think I could have found better!
(not my videos, but really good showcase of what it can do: https://vimeo.com/93000218, there's a lot of good a6000 videos on vimeo)
October 6, 2015 at 6:59AM
The a6000 does look like a great little camera, the only real issue I see is the lack of audio input. There is a stereo mic from sony that can be use trough the active cold shoe mount but I don't know how good it is. If the audio is not an issue for you I think I would chose it over the 70d.
October 6, 2015 at 9:54AM
I have them both, so here are my thoughts.
Canon has obviously the best ecosystem, with lenses for every need. With Sony you will need an active adapter, to use Canon glass on it and have apperture changes, but do not except professional autofocus...
In autofocusing during video, with both cameras on native lenses, canon is the certain winner and the touch focus is very handy. Canon never misses focus. Never.
Last but not least and here is the deal breaker for Canon, if you shoot the same scene with both cameras and watch it later on your PC, you will notice that Canon has bigger bitrate, even against XAVC on Sony. But even that, Canon seems to be a 720p uspcaled and Sony a real 1080p. The difference in detail is quite significant for me and if you buy an in camera app on Sony, you will have a flat picture profile like Cinestyle.
So, in conclusion, if it's your first ever camera, definately go to Sony. If you had a Canon before and have glass, consider it, because you actually lose auto focus.
October 7, 2015 at 3:38AM
What is the in camera app for sony that gives a flat picture profile? Thanks
October 8, 2015 at 10:57AM
This is the app Derek.https://www.playmemoriescameraapps.com/portal/usbdetail.php?eid=IS9104-N...
October 9, 2015 at 1:27PM
October 12, 2015 at 10:16AM
Very important addendum RE: the app-- it doesnt work on XAVC, at least last i checked. it only allows for AVCHD recording
December 15, 2015 at 3:12PM
Thank you Panos for your reply. I have used a Nikon D5200 before but had to sell it for some reason. I had made up my mind to get the Canon 70D next. But then I heard about sony that got me all confused. I've also heard that the autofocus on sony is 'too fast' but the canon has a rather smooth autofocus when moving from one object to another. I think i'm leaning again towards the Canon and it offers a lot of lenses to choose from. The touch focus and fully articulated screen will also come in very handy.
October 7, 2015 at 5:18AM, Edited October 7, 5:23AM
why not get a panasonic g6 or g7, does the same you want to do, but better than both cameras.... yet if I have to choose, the a6000 is my favorite
October 8, 2015 at 3:04AM
Here is an official music video i shot using the a6000. It is an excellent camera for video.
this recap video also came out extremely clean.
July 1, 2016 at 4:37PM