March 20, 2018 at 11:55PM

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Cameras that record Proress Internally??

Im looking for a comprehensive list of the cameras that records proress internally?

Ultimately im after a small lightweight camera (C100 size) that can record proress internally? Does this exist?

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You won't find a mirrorless or DSLR camera from the major manufacturers with these features. Even most cinema cameras don't shoot ProRes internally. The FS7, C200, C300 mkii, and the EVA1 all lack ProRes internal recording. Most of these have a higher bitrate recording option with either a RAW recording or a 4:2:2 10 bit recording codec internally. If you really have your heart set on ProRes you really have a limited number of options. The Blackmagic series of cameras (the pocket, micro, cinema, production and URSA all have internal ProRes), Kinefinity (a relatively untested chinese brand), AJA, RED or Arri. There may be a few other outliers out there but you won't see it from the big brands like Canon, Panasonic, or Sony.

That being said, if you are looking for a camera that shoots a high bitrate codec, there are lots of options. I believe all of the Sony mirrorless cameras have a 50mbps HD and 150mbps 4k option (while only being 8 bit 420). The Panasonic GH5 (if I'm not mistaken) shoots to 10bit internal with 422 color space. I'm not an expert on the GH5 though so I could be wrong.

Either way there are compact cameras that have reasonable internal codecs, but none (save the blackmagic cameras) that have ProRes. Any reason you are aiming for ProRes internal?

March 21, 2018 at 7:43AM, Edited March 21, 7:55AM

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Matthias Claflin
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the FS7 will record internal ProRes with the overprice xdca unit.

But I think the consensus is that the benefit is neglible because you will be spending 3 times as much storage on ProRes HQ as you would on xavc, and there's no real increase in quality if you exposed your footage properly.

March 27, 2018 at 1:05PM, Edited March 27, 1:06PM

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Torben Greve
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I thought about mentioning that but is it really "internal" if you have to purchase an add on that might as well be an external recorder? That was my reason for excluding it from my original post anyway.

Matthias Claflin

March 27, 2018 at 1:21PM

True... It's not an optimal solution to be honest. But my question would be why the OP would want acquire ProRes to begin with... there's nothing wrong with todays xavc. And that data rate :S

Torben Greve

March 30, 2018 at 3:25AM, Edited March 30, 3:25AM

I like FS7 more than other only because I had experience in using it. But I have heard a lot about C200 too.

March 28, 2018 at 12:11PM

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DebraCaetra
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I don't think the C200 shoots prores... I'm pretty sure it only shoots h.264 8 bit and raw.

Matthias Claflin

March 29, 2018 at 11:56PM

you didnt specify price;) get an alexa mini!

March 28, 2018 at 2:17PM

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eric girgash
Director of Photography
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add a monitor like VA4k to your camera, check that your camera go out by hdmi or sdi with correct signal (10bit 4:2:2 uncompressed) and you can record by it.
check exactly that camera can output a clean feed to recorder, you could be surpriced from how many cameras cannot feed out a clean signal or a full signal. I use it with gh5 to record a UHD 30fps at prores 4:2:2 10 bit, clean as my blackmagic cameras.

March 28, 2018 at 5:09PM

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Carlo Macchiavello
Director
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The Blackamgic Ursa mini pro records 10 bit Prores internally, as far as i'm aware.

March 30, 2018 at 3:02PM, Edited March 30, 3:04PM

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Craig Douglas
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Black Magic is probably the cheapest option internally. Any of the RED DSMC2s would do internal prores, but the Raven would only do it in 2k-Scarlets and up in 4K. ARRI Alexa and Canon C700 also records internal prores.
Another option is a recorder/monitor: Atomos, Black Magic video assist, Convergent Design Odyssey, Video Assist PIX

April 1, 2018 at 4:46PM

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Chris Kennedy
Director of Photography
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there fore to eliminate all your problems there is AppEven, which will definitely provide you all android apps including paid and premium ones for free in a single Appstore.

April 2, 2018 at 8:15AM

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ProRes out of RED DSMC2 looks great and edits easily.

April 21, 2018 at 5:10PM, Edited April 21, 5:10PM

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KC
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The new Blackmagic Pocket is probably a good fit for your needs.

April 25, 2018 at 5:20AM

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Charles Haine
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