March 9, 2016 at 12:39AM

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Canon C100 mark ii Post WorkFlow

Hie everyone, we recently got a c100 mark ii and have used it for a few shoots and have been editing using the .MTS files easily.Last weekend we shot our first wedding with the C100 (have been using canon 6Ds before) and we use the ZOOM H5 for recording audio. Because I have to sync the video and audio using pluraleyes,I have to first transcode the .MTS files to Prores it seems to be taking too long to transcode using Adobe After Effects,It has taken two days to transcode two 16gb SD cards.My question is, whats the easiest and fastest way to transcode ,or is it better to shoot MP4 not AVCHD
My initial thought was not to use the C100 mark ii for wedding videos but the decision is not mine to make.
HELP Anyone?

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Shoot MP4 not AVCHD. Problem solved.

Or learn to sync audio and video in Premiere Pro. I know it can sync multiple video files based on audio nowadays...should be able to do audio and video, too.

March 9, 2016 at 2:29AM

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Premier Pro syncing is not reliable sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, don't know about syncing multiple files at once will look it out.Ended up using Pluraleyes 4 (14 Day Trial) It worked with .Mts files without any hustle and i exported the xml to premiere pro,worked fine.But next time I will use mp4,thanks for the advice

Prosper Kunyetu

March 10, 2016 at 2:14AM

I haven't used Pluraleyes in months because PP's audio sync has been working perfectly for me. There are situations where it won't sync, but the same can easily be said for Pluraleyes. In my experience, Premiere is just as reliable, if not more so than Pluraleyes, and I've used it to sync dozens of video and audio files at a time.

Kenneth Merrill

March 13, 2016 at 1:55PM

How are you offloading the cards? are you simply dragging and dropping the folder or using something like data import utility to unpack the avchd folder from the sd card? It sounds like you are just dragging and dropping which can cause some programs (especially adobe) to duplicate very long clips, hence the reason you're seeing absurdly long transcode times.

March 10, 2016 at 6:46PM

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Jon Gourlay
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I don't use data import utility thanks for the heads up,will start doing so but i think for weddings I will switch to MP4 is there much of a difference though?

Prosper Kunyetu

March 10, 2016 at 10:33PM

Definitely shoot MP4. It'll be like going back to your 6D workflow. I've never actually shot AVCHD on my c100 mkii as it's so much easier to manage the files with MP4.

March 11, 2016 at 3:17AM

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Liam Martin
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Why not have get a Ninja 2 or Ninja Blade for ProRes?

March 11, 2016 at 6:43AM

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Sean Tracy
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AVCHD at 24 mbps LPCM is going to give you uncompressed audio which .mp4 wont be able to do. So if you're recording audio to the camera without a second system thats probably your best bet. I haven't exactly tested this but I recall reading that the AVCHD image quality is ~slightly better than Mp4. Though I would have a hard time seeing the difference in real world scenarios. Your issue is almost definitely the result of not using data import utility to offload the SD card causing the long clips to duplicate in the transcode.

FWIW I only ever use Mp4 if I want the internal slomo. Once you've start using Data Import you're just going to have to decide if the audio benefits of AVCHD outweigh the slightly more simple workflow of Mp4 for your uses.

March 12, 2016 at 10:17AM

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Jon Gourlay
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thanks in this case i use an external recorder ZOOM H5 ,plugged into the dj sound board or mixer so mp4 will be better i guess

Prosper Kunyetu

March 13, 2016 at 4:51AM

Hi Jon. Is there a comparison for this anywhere online? It's a Sunday and I'm being lazy and not doing one myself but I wouldn't mind knowing. I've always been happy with the audio from the mp4's.

Liam Martin

March 13, 2016 at 11:13AM

Hey liam, I assume you are referring to the audio compression between mp4 and AVCHD? I won't ever claim to be a sound guy but from what I understand LPCM with avchd is uncompressed audio and the mp4 audio is encoded with aac compression. Could I tell a difference in a sound test? probably not but uncompressed sounds good to me so thats what the editor gets!

Jon Gourlay

March 13, 2016 at 8:05PM

I also suggest Data Import for the AVCHD. It's very easy to use and makes a solid workflow difference as far as minimizing issues in Premiere.

March 13, 2016 at 8:54PM

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There are much better programs for transcoding than After Effects, I'd suggest using Adobe Media Encoder, DaVinci Resolve or Compressor 4. I use Resolve a lot for transcoding, added bonus is that it's also free to download!

March 17, 2016 at 11:15PM, Edited March 17, 11:43PM

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Jacob Harris
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I remember not getting audio in resolve as well when I checked it had to do with the ac-3 licensing, something like that but now I'm going for mp4 for weddings,

Prosper Kunyetu

March 18, 2016 at 3:22AM, Edited March 18, 3:22AM

Interesting. I might start using AVCHD for this doc I'm shooting and stick with MP4 for small web based projects. I also use a Ninja Blade so presumably the audio just comes out clean anyway?

March 19, 2016 at 4:04AM

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Liam Martin
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I found a related tutorial on Google which may give you some clues. Good luck!

August 10, 2016 at 2:02AM, Edited August 10, 2:06AM

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Why aren't your mics plugged directly into the C100? You are wasting so much time. Use lavaliere mics. Download into Premiere Pro and get your timeline immediately! No need to transcode or use After Effects. Want a little better picture, use a Ninja but not necessary for a wedding. Love my C100!

August 10, 2016 at 10:17PM, Edited August 10, 10:37PM

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William Scherer
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Thank you all for your reply this is late but after all this time have finally worked on a workflow that works well, now recording in mp4 still using Clog and Prolost on the 6D, audio is recorded separately on the zoom H5 plugged on the mixer or soundboard then all the footage and audio is then synced in Plural Eyes 4 after that I import the xmls that will be exported from Plural Eyes into premier pro where all the editing is done.For color grading have skipped film Convert because of the look we are going for i.e. Clean and almost original looking colors, and now sticking to Lumetri Color panel it does the job well for me though I still like Film Convert as my first preference

October 6, 2016 at 7:02AM

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Prosper Kunyetu
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