September 11, 2014 at 5:19PM

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Feedback regarding a music video.

Hi,

Just joined the boards yesterday and love the whole idea of this thing and just want to thank those that made it happen. In regards to my question, I would just like some feedback on a music video I shot and edited. There was no budget, called in some favours to get a couple of the locations but other than that I just shot it in a forest and a beach which was free. Most of it was shot hand held on a 5D Mark 3. I edited it on Adobe Prem CC. It's not bad, I'm proud of it considering how we made it but it's certainly not perfect. I haven't had any real constructive feedback and was wondering if anyone here could help. Many thanks.

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Theres no Link to watch anything :)

September 12, 2014 at 1:55AM

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dj73
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Oh sorry I have it on my profile here. Also here's a link. Thanks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOGsHCY3tD8&list=UU2CHChPOjW0MYAfjPEsr1tg

September 12, 2014 at 4:42AM

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Adrian Conlon
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It started out quite good, I thought it seemed quite professional. I like the warehouse/hangar location and the cinematography and felt that it fit the band and music well.

Once it started getting cutting back and forth between that location and the forest and the beach and the field though, it really lost me. I had no idea what the significance of those other locations were or what the band was doing there. It just seemed like random footage that accidentally got cut in and it was kinda confusing.

I feel that music videos should have a story, or at least an overall theme. I think sticking to the one location would have kept within a theme, and you got some great shots and some great editing within that location (I liked the end of the video as well when it stopped jumping around so much). Another thing that would have helped keep the shots feeling like they were within the same theme would be to do a consistent color grade for all of them. Jumping back and forth between color grades emphasized the idea that none of these clips fit together. They each seem part of their own story, but they’re stories that you never get to see where they lead.

Like I said, I think you got some great shots, and I liked a lot of the editing. If you have enough footage to do an alternate edit with just the one location I’d give it a try and see what people think of it. Ask them which one they like better.

September 12, 2014 at 2:03PM, Edited September 12, 2:03PM

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Ryan Toyota
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Thank you, I can't tell you how much I appreciate that feedback. I think you're spot on with every point. I'm hoping to film another video for them in December and I'm certainly going set out to make it more coherent with an overall theme and story. In regards to grading I only used the three Way Colour Wheel in Adobe. I know I can do better there. Thank you also for the positive points you made about the editing and how partly professional it looked. Coming from a professional such as yourself means a lot. Cheers.

September 12, 2014 at 3:13PM

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Adrian Conlon
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You’re very welcome. It’s funny because I don’t feel much like a professional myself, to be honest, although I do have a fair amount of experience. I’ve just been learning and working on my own over the past eight years and so in a lot of things I’ve just been going with what I think is best but often feel like I have no idea what I’m doing. Still, I’m glad I could pass on some helpful knowledge.

Color correction is one area where I feel I could be a lot better. One of the keys I’ve found is trying to balance all of the clips out so that they look neutral, and then applying a “look” to them after that. I have a hard time trying to get all the clips to look neutral, and often neutral looks kind of boring, so you’re tempted to just rush ahead and start playing with looks, but I’ve found that just makes it harder to match the look of clips later on.

If a more experienced colorist has any tips or corrections to add to what I’ve said, please do.

Ryan Toyota

September 12, 2014 at 3:24PM

It's not bad, It actually looks good due to the kind of music. If this is your first music video, as time goes by, and if of course, you keep shooting, you'll eventually get better and better.

As the comment before mine, maybe next time try to have a more concrete story? Something that makes you want to finish watching the video you know?

Just my humble comments, but it was a nice work my friend, keep it up.

September 13, 2014 at 8:38PM

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Tommy Plesky
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Thanks a lot, I really appreciate that. It's true parts of it are just confusing. I think the last half of the video lets it down. In regards to your positive feedback I'm humbled. I'm already in pre-production on the bands next track so I'll be sure to post it here. Hopefully it'll show an improvement. Many thanks.

September 13, 2014 at 9:05PM, Edited September 13, 9:05PM

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Adrian Conlon
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I didn't mind it, it suited the music, though not my type of music :) The only comment I would make is regarding the eyelines. I'm guessing you added in those black bars in Premiere afterwards? A lot of the shots the eyelines were way to high although I felt that the shot needed more space. If you added in the black bars in premiere just shifting some of the shots down would have helped i think. Another trick I find helps a lot is when shooting to put some little strips of electrical tape over top and bottom of the screen so you know what will be in the final edit.

Probably being picky but otherwise I thought it was good. Well done mate.

September 14, 2014 at 11:43AM

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Jarrad Cody
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Thank you Jarrad. I'll be honest I haven't even thought of that before. Now it's all I'm gonna notice hahah. Once again spot on constructive criticism. Thanks so much.

September 14, 2014 at 12:52PM

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Adrian Conlon
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Study others' work - Nathan Williams has some talented stuff and does videos for this kind of music. We as aspiring filmmakers have to look at others' work to sharpen our tools, not to imitate others of course, but to find inspiration and learn from the guys doing it better than we are. His videos for the band Come Wind (e.g. https://vimeo.com/46944255) or "Dead Man" by Wolves at the Gate are great examples.

September 22, 2014 at 2:27AM

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