September 5, 2014 at 5:02AM

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GH4 external monitor

Hi, recently bought gh4 and i can't manage to make it output image to liliput monitor (I know that it's a cheap solution, but did it's job so far), is it a question of frequence/bitrate/speed of cable ? Not only in 4K, even full hd 100mbit is not possible. Thanks

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Have you tried another HDMI cable? Ive had trouble with the small mini HDMI connectors on my DSLR before. I always seem to have 3 cables with me to be safe :)

September 6, 2014 at 12:11AM

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Scott Selman
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It could be a number of things. I would test another cable or two (with different adaptors if your going mini to full via adaptor) for starters. If that doesn't solve the problem I would look into what signal types your monitor takes and make sure your camera is/can output that signal type, this could be the cause especially with down converting the 4k. I would also test the monitor with a different camera to make sure its not the monitor and test the camera with a different monitor to ensure its not the output from the camera.

Good Luck!

September 8, 2014 at 4:19PM

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Chase Axton
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not the greatest monitor in the world but have you tried the panasonic image app, gives you a monitor and can control the camera from it. Although slight lag

September 10, 2014 at 5:04AM

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Daniel Raymond Turner
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I tried a Lilliput monitor back in my GH3 days. Not only was it difficult to keep the signal connected, but the image was decidedly inferior to the built-in display. I couldn't find any reason to use it. I saved my pennies until I could afford a SmallHD. I cannot say enough good things about SmallHD. Not only is the image gorgeous (and accurate) but the sucker survived a 5 foot drop onto concrete. One of the best gear investments I've ever made, and sure to outlast my camera.

September 11, 2014 at 6:55PM

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Joseph Moore
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Please check this information for your problem http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/10334/gh4-issues-with-monitors/p1

Scroll down a little bit and you find this post here from mrbill "Relief - I set the camera to some avchd modes, and went back to .mov, 200mbs, and the camera and monitor now play together. Seems to have cleared it's throat. HDMI output settings are 8bit, info display on, and 1080p for 4k downconvert.."

Hope this works for you too...

September 12, 2014 at 1:30AM

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dj73
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Double check the settings on the monitor to see if there is an option to match frame rate to the camera. The GH3 and GH4 cameras are finicky about their HDMI output. As dj73 mentions, switching between MOV and AVCHD sometimes makes the handshake happen, but I have never been able to send 30fps via MOV out of the GH4's HDMI port.

November 13, 2014 at 6:12PM

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David Patterson
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The age of your Lilliput and its capability may be part of the problem. Many of our older HD monitors -- even expensive ones -- can sync only to 720p or 1080i, but not 1080p, which didn't even exist at time of manufacture.

If in the HDMI downconvert setting you have 4K set to downconvert to 1080p, and your monitor cannot resolve 1080p, nothing shows.

Try setting your camera to record to various frame rates, codecs and resolutions. Some may work where others won't.

Also, even with my SmallHD DP4 and GH4 (or Nikon D800 for that matter), I have to sequence the camera and monitor just right to get them to work. Usually, I need to turn the monitor on first, let it boot, then turn the camera on. Or turn both on, but plug/unplug the HDMI from the monitor. Same dance with the GH4's SDI outputs from the YAGH. Usually they work, sometimes they don't.

And while I can monitor a downconverted 4K signal via SDI to a 1080p SDI-in monitor, I can't get 4K to play back on the same 1080p monitor except to see 1/4 of the UHD signal. Apparently the 4K signal only plays back on the cameras viewfinder.

A 4K monitor that has four SDI inputs works. The Odyssey 7Q with its new 3.10.100 firmware works very well, but still requires setting up the camera to output clean 4K (using a couple of menus) and setting up the 7Q with a rabbit trail of menu setups. Eventually it works, but it ain't easy.

Bottom line, external monitoring is tricky.

November 22, 2014 at 1:01AM

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hi' anybody try 5 meters micro hdmi to hdmi for live view on monitor,i'm using gh4 on crane & right now using 3 meters micro hdmi to hdmi without any problem but when i try with 5 meters display no signal showing in monitor,even i try on sony a7s but same problem,if any body have try this please share,thanks

December 1, 2016 at 7:00PM

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M Qais
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