September 15, 2015 at 1:20PM

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Help deciding between GH4 & 6D (or other)

Hi all! I've posted on here a few times about getting new gear but haven't been able to actually purchase any new gear until now. I was between getting new glass and a new camera, but I like the glass I have now and have access to other great glass from friends. I'm not buying new gear just to buy new stuff, I truly feel like I've outgrown my current camera. I'm finding myself being held back by my current camera, a Canon 60D. I've been using a lot better cameras at my work and through film school, and when I go back to my camera I just feel like I'm past it. I can still get good footage out of it, but not in all situations that I need it to. The footage always looks noisy, even when I'm not shooting at higher ISOs. I've shot two weddings this past summer and while I feel like I got a lot of good footage, I got into moments were there was no little to no light and unfortunately that footage came out pretty bad. But I'm also finding myself missing some features from the other cameras I've been using that have good eyepieces, peaking, histogram, slow motion and such.

So I'm looking for a new camera in the $1000 to $2000 price range. I've been looking at the 6D for a while because I know Canon very well and the low light capabilities are something that I'm looking for. I have all Canon glass and a few extra batteries so that all works well for me. However, I've been looking into the GH4 lately and I'm starting to catch on it a bit. Obviously 4k is great, I love how crisp the footage looks and having the ability to punch in on a 1080p timeline would be awesome. Good slow motion is a big plus, the EVF is something I've learned is a real necessity and it has great pro video features (peaking, histogram, etc.). I think I lean a bit more towards the GH4, but I'm not totally there yet. I've heard that the low light isn't too great, which is something I do need a bit more help in.

For my work I do a lot of news/interview/documentary/event coverage and as I said I'm getting into weddings now as well. I do narrative films and music videos, but I usually have access to better cameras from school for those projects. I've done a lot of research and a pros vs cons list between these cameras and I am just still struggling to choose. I'll be trying out my friend's GH4 soon for a day, but I want to get as much information as I can. That's why I'm here, to get your opinions. If anyone of you have used either of these cameras I'd really appreciate you sharing your experience using it in your shooting situations and if you feel that camera would work for my kinds of shooting situations. Or if you know of another camera that might be suitable for me please let me know! Any and all help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!!

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Also if anyone has any experience with the metabones speedbooster that gives the 0.71x crop and adds the stop of light does it help with low light/is it responsive and work? Thanks!

September 15, 2015 at 3:09PM, Edited September 15, 3:09PM

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Tyler McDonald
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The moire / aliasing on the Canon 6D is horrible, so I would not recommend this camera to shoot video. There is a $365 fix from Mosaic Engineering, which is a custom made low-pass filter that you fit over your 6D camera sensor and it will cure these problems.

http://www.mosaicengineering.com/products/vaf/6d.html

Otherwise, I would look at the Panasonic GH4 or the Sony A7S cameras.

The A7S is the current low-light king and works well with Canon lenses, but you will have to find this camera used to keep within your budget. Sony has announced the A7S Mark II so it should be easier to find the older A7S Mark I body, once the Mark II is in stores.

Most of the time I am shooting with the GH4 with the Metabones 0.71x SpeedBooster adapter for Nikon lenses, and it does give you one more F-stop of light from your lenses. With a fast lens and the Metabones SpeedBooster the GH4 is passable in low-light, but it is still 3 F-stops behind the Sony A7S camera.

I like to shoot with lights, so even with low-light work I still want to bring some small LED lights with me to give me some control over how things are lit. "Found" lighting is random and usually not very flattering on what you are shooting, so being able to bring my own "key" light ( even if it's a small 4 x 6 inch LED light ) gives me some control over what is happening in front of my camera.

One last note: The look you get from the GH4 is entirely dependent on your camera settings, so you may want to experiment with camera settings when testing it out. ( I recommend trying the NATURAL camera profile and dial the CONTRAST and SHARPNESS down to -5, or the GH4 image will appear over-sharp and too contrasty )

September 15, 2015 at 4:42PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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Guy, thanks so much for all of your input! I've heard and seen a lot about that with the 6D and it's definitely been turning me off more from the camera. And I'd honestly rather not have to pay that extra cash for that filter. The GH4 just sounds like it has everything that I'm looking for in a camera at the moment. If I could afford an a7s I would definitely consider it, however it is just out of my price range. I will keep all of this in mind as I move closer to my decision, thanks!

Tyler McDonald

September 17, 2015 at 12:25AM

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