February 24, 2015 at 10:51AM

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Name 7 Problems shooting on DSLR/mirrorless

Hello everyone,
Well, we are very close to releasing our Indiegogo campaign, but before disclosing our product, it would be great to hear from other filmmakers issues.
After more than 1 year working on the prototype we are very close to the final stage, so this is a good time to hear from other experts.
The product is basically a problem solver, I can´t give more details about it at this moment, but soon, I promise!

The questions for you:
1) What is your camera?
2) What you use it for mainly?
3) Name 7 problems you have while filming, in order of importance.

With your answer we might improve a little more our product, after all... it´s a product thought for your needs...

Thanks, and hope to get good feedback!

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1) Mostly Panasonic GH4 ( though I rent other cameras when needed )

2) Corporate training and interview shoots ( occasionally I shoot Indie shorts with friends )

7 Problems ???

- Camera stabilization ( camera has to always move smoothly )
- Accurate focus for 4K video ( you need a good monitor )
- Lighting ( always a lot of work to transport and set-up )
- Audio ( I can't afford to always have a boom-op with me )
- Set-prep ( I have to work with the client's location and furniture, which is sometimes a problem )
- Acheiving good production value with a low budget ( no money for extras )
- Staying current with new production gear( new things are always coming out )

February 24, 2015 at 1:25PM

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Guy McLoughlin
Video Producer
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I shoot on a PMW-200 and a T4i with Magic Lantern and Cinestyle to shoot News and Weather:

Problems with DSLRs as opposed to the PMW-200
- Form Factor / Water Resistance
- Pro Audio and Video IO
- Lens Zoom Range
- Autofocus accuracy for video
- Chroma Subsampling
- Image Bit Depth
- Audio Bit Depth

February 25, 2015 at 12:08PM

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1) Panasonic GH4
2) Advertising, short films, promotionals.

1) Definitely low-light situations.
2) Using my glidecam with the zoom-in crop 4/3 cameras have. Using a 35mm is like having a 70mm zoom lens.
3) The camera monitor always makes you think you had a bad shot/video until you watch it on a big screen/computer.
4) Huge files (a 32 GB will only give you about 30-40min footage)

I can't think of anything else at the moment. Why 7? 7 is a lot! haha

February 25, 2015 at 12:17PM, Edited February 25, 12:17PM

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Tommy Plesky
Director / D.P / Editor
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ja! yea, 7 is a lot, but even those small things like loosing the lens cap is a problem sometimes! Thanks for your feedbak Tommy!

Pablo Damian Gallego

February 25, 2015 at 2:47PM

The new OLED monitors are a good match to your actual footage. ( but they cost big bucks )

Guy McLoughlin

February 25, 2015 at 5:24PM

1. Sony a7s ( secondary: 5D mk III / Sony FS700)
2. Advertising / Short Films

1. Rolling shutter on a7s
2. Lack of weather sealing on a7s
3. Lack of XLR inputs
4. a7s is super light - takes work to balance on some gimbals.

February 25, 2015 at 12:53PM

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Max Daines
Director / Cinematographer
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1. Panasonic GH-2 & GH-4.
2. Corporate, marketing, personal - music, food.
3. .1 Most camera plates block battery access.
.2 No AC/DC power option. (Pretty much applies to all DSLRs)
.3 Flimsy HDMI outs.
.4 Not ideal audio inputs.
.5 The GH series could do better in low light.
.6 GH-4 specific - no iOS in 4K mode.
.7 Many GH-4 users would like native LUTs, 96fps in 4K, so why not!

February 25, 2015 at 12:58PM

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Paul Chen
Whimsy City Productions. Producer/Director
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I will Paul! soon!

Pablo Damian Gallego

February 25, 2015 at 2:49PM, Edited February 25, 2:49PM

Panasonic do make AC adapters for both the GH2 and GH4 cameras, though the GH2 camera adapter was recently discontinued. ( I bought two of them from eBay to use with the new FZ1000 camera ) The GH3/GH4 camera adapter is still being made.

Guy McLoughlin

February 25, 2015 at 5:22PM

I shoot on GH2, Blackmagic Pocket for corporate videos, interviews with b-roll, personal creative projects. (I'll rent C100 or similar on occasion when needed).

1. Low light on interior b-roll shoots. (Maybe I should but the a7s or its successor? although clients never complain.)
2. Getting dynamic shots is too time consuming, so i usually just do tripod moves. (businesses like you in and out - even setting up a slider for a few shots isn't really worth it.)
3. Tripod adjustments. Can someone make a tripod that you can adjust all the legs at one time? That would be sweet. Video mono-pods are okay, but movement shots aren't stable enough for my taste.
4. Dynamic range on DSLRs. Booo.
5. Blackmagic battery-life and the need to use a monitor. I guess the quirks of the Blackmagic are just too much for me at this point to use it consistently on my corporate shoots. The GH2 is still my go to on 90% of shoots because it's easier to use - and the clients just don't care anyway.
6. This is not while shooting but... Cost to upgrade gear. Specifically camera gear. On low level corporate gigs they don't really care what you use as long as it shoots 1080p. So, I can't justify investing in a new camera system at this point even though I like making my pictures prettier.
7. Audio syncing. Not that big a deal.. but my camera pre amps are below the quality I like, so I shoot dual system. It would be nice to capture audio in camera without needing a C100.

If you say what you're making - I'll tell you if I'd buy it.

February 25, 2015 at 12:59PM

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Lane McCall
Producer/Director
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Totally agree with 3. I do video just as a hobby, and lots of the time I have to shoot stuff so fast that I just don't have time to set up tripod for every shot - never mind a slider or trying to balance a glidecam! HAVE to go handheld or on cheap rig. Quality suffers, but it's that or don't get the shots...

Chris Hyland

February 27, 2015 at 7:01PM

GH4 + YAGH, mainly for interview-monologue type shoots and as a backup camera, the 4K allows me to zoom in in post which is a very nice option to have if your speaker is not well-trained. I also have a Canon 650D as backup which is pretty good, useful for those cramped spaces.

I almost don't use it for run & gun work because:
1) Ergonomy is generally bad
2) I hate working with rigs, it's always moving and in the way, even if you have a high quality one.
3) No decent servo-zoom (i use my B4 ENG-lens sometimes, but it's bulky and in no way portable)
4) Too much delay on the various outputs (HDMI & SDI), so you can't use it live.
5) 5 million types of lens-mounts, when all I want is an EF-mount
6) A lot of photography functions, which I don't need needlessly complicate the menus and button ergonomy.
7) accessories... accessories everywhere, and for everything...
For most things I still prefer a larger ENG-type camera with a servo zoom (I use a Panasonic HDX900 with an Atomos recorder)

I do like:
- Low light (much better than any ENG-style camcorder)
- A lot of people complain about focus, but I personally think it's easier to achieve focus on a DSLR, if you have a decent viewfinder.
- Battery life is pretty good on the GH4, the 650D, not so much, but still pretty good.
- You don't have to carry around 10KG's of camcorder. but 1KG of camcorder and 9KG's of accessories :p
- Smaller Codecs is a plus for me. If you need bigger codecs, buy a better camera.

February 25, 2015 at 1:26PM

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Sven
Multicamera-operator & ENG cameraman
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Lets say that if you are a detective, Pandora will be your hat ;)

Pablo Damian Gallego

February 25, 2015 at 2:52PM

1. sony rx100mk1, canon 550d & ML, and a borrowed eos-m mk1. for multicam interviews.

2. for the last 3 years I've been shooting a self funded documentary on a new high tech bio engineered cancer treatment that is only available in china..( I'm from Australia ) and this cancer treatment is done with lasers.. very bright lasers as you can see an example in this interview i shot last month on http://youtu.be/w9iG_FuUtZI?t=10m45s and at http://youtu.be/w9iG_FuUtZI?t=16m24s in the laser room, to give you some idea.

1. biggest issue is really, just colour matching across all three cams is a nightmare in post ( fcpx )
2. the sony rx100 has a much sharper 1080p image than the two canons.
3. not fussed about sound as i use a zoom h4n and two lav mic's, on camera sound is fine for sync, and use a rode video mic on the 550d for backup just in case, as sometimes the zoom runs out of battery and 'forgets' to close the wav file its recording.. pita to get it back off the card byte by byte....

I'd love to use a samsung nx1 or even the new nx500's would do fine, would love to punch in/zoom in at 4k, however on my 4yr old macbook pro 17", every one min of 4k h.265 footage means 20mins on my mac to convert to prores LT 4k.

so tell us about your Pandora.. what do you have for us Pablo ?

tony

February 25, 2015 at 1:52PM

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Tony Anastasi
Filmmaker
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Nice answer,
About number 7, a few month ago I saw a trailer about another product that mainly did that with an accelerometer, pretty cool gadget. It was french, all that I remember.

Pablo Damian Gallego

February 25, 2015 at 2:54PM

1: GH4 and Canon C100
2: TV Commercials, Web features
3: problems:
1 Camera stability, especially on the z-axis as light cameras tend to tilt left to right making horizon feel uneasy. The Olympus stabilizing sensor is awesome, but I want the GH4's features.
2 Lack of a fast parafocal zoom lens with Image Stabilizing for crash zooms
3 Delay on HDMI port causes sound delays on director and other monitors.
4 Instability of HDMI ports, cables and connectors
5 HDMI signal disabled when in Slow Motion modes makes client/director monitoring impossible.
6 Lack of ND filters in the body means rigging of lens ND's which don't always work with my wider lenses.
7 Camera could use GPS, accelerometer and digital compass which would be helpful in removing Rolling shutter live in firmware.

February 25, 2015 at 1:57PM

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Hey Guys, thanks for all the replies!
It´s very comfortable to know that we all have the same issues, give or take...

We are working 24/7 to finish the Indiegogo campaign.
If some of you are interested in being among the first to know when we launch the campaign, please let me know your email address and I will add it to the newsletter. Obviously you will also get a 60% off for the early bird special.

Thanks again and I´m pretty sure that a lot of people will be very exited about this "accessory", Mostly because we are keeping the price low, but the quality high.

February 25, 2015 at 2:42PM

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Pablo Damian Gallego
Producer / Inventor
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1) I've used: 5DIII, 5DII, 7D & A7s
2) Broadcast, Commercials, Features and Web
3) Issues:
1- HDMI ports on these camera go bad quickly
2- Rolling Shutter
3- Sub-HD Output/Lack of Overlays on External Monitor (except A7S)
3- Latency when connecting to external monitor (HDMI handshake)
4- Power fluctuation issues using dummy battery/external batteries
5- Limited Codecs/Frame Rates (again, better with A7S)

February 25, 2015 at 3:26PM

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1. Canon Eos 70D
2. I just use it for photography and shooting shorts
3. -Rolling Shutter!!!
- Aliasing and Moire
-Compressed Codec
-Poor Dynamic range, my highlights are either blown out or I'm underexposed
-Handheld, I have to rig it out to actually put it on my shoulder
-I can't find cinema glass I deem decent with an EF mount
-4:2:0 8bit color, I run into banding a lot

February 25, 2015 at 5:02PM

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Peter Phillips
Filmmaker
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Have you tried the Rokinon cine lenses?

Miko Jacildo

February 26, 2015 at 2:50AM

I have tried the Rokinon primes, Miko. I just haven't found them to have much character that I'd like. I'm not sure if they offer them uncoated, if they do that's what I'd prefer. I recently have been playing around with some older Nikon primes but I still won't have good focus marks.

Peter Phillips

February 27, 2015 at 4:06PM

1) BMPCC
2) Web, School work, Light freelance work
3) - Terrible ergonomics on BMPCC
- Having to swap out batteries every 40 mins
- Spending lots of money on accessories
- Display isn't great
- No low light
- No higher fps shooting
- Crop factor

February 25, 2015 at 5:24PM

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Theo Levey
Student
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1.) Canon T2i

2.)Weddings, Documentaries, Products, etc.

3.)Problems
-Non-professional audio inputs
-Needs a good rig for should/hand held
-Shaky handheld
-Non Edit friendly codec with lower bit rate
-Low Dynamic Range (for the average standards today)
-Soft Image due to large megapixel image being down rez'd
- Short battery life

Despite the short comings of this early DSLR it does give a lovely image for the types of projects I work on Although, having worked with professional level camcorders does make me long for something along the lines of a AF100, FS7, or C100 MKII.

February 25, 2015 at 8:19PM

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Kyle Acker
Cinematographer/ Video Editor
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1. Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

2. Landscape capture, School, Short film, Freelance

3. 1. Poor internal audio quality.
2. Crazy-short battery life.
3. Expensive accessories.
4. ISO limits.
5. No overcranking capabilities.
6. Small sensor issues with crop factor, stabilization, deep depth of field, etc.
7. Not really future proofed due to only 1080p and no higher fps.

February 25, 2015 at 8:24PM

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Henrik Albihn
Director/Director of Photography
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1) moire
2) rolling shutter
3) stabilization
4) low dynamic range
5) video compression
6) limited time for continuous record
7) low audio quality

February 25, 2015 at 9:55PM

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Diogo Pessoa Andrade
Filmmaker. Cinematographer. Editor. Digital Colourist.
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well If I take into consideration one of the cameras I use (Sony nex vg20) the issues:
3) stabilization, may not be a problem if i use Sony lenses with optical stabilization. Actually the stabilization is quite ok and I can shoot handheld.
6) limited time for continuous record is not an issue once i can record for hours continually
7) low audio quality, is not that bad. Actually is quite good but shame it is compressed (acc codec)

The main problems are moire and rolling shutter.
Regarding video compression, it's possible to record 4:2:2 via hdmi to an external recorder.
So the main issues are moire and rolling shutter

Diogo Pessoa Andrade

February 25, 2015 at 10:05PM

ah! and one more important limitation in sony nex vg20, it's not possible to input color temperature in kelvin.

Diogo Pessoa Andrade

February 25, 2015 at 10:10PM

I shoot how to videos like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2kF5SJmvOg
I use a Nikon D3200 with Zoom H4N.
Here are my 7 problems:
1. Terrible Mic Input (Bad Preamp)
2. Lack of color control
3. Limited Record Time
4.Doesn't record in 4K
5.Stablilization
6. Small Sensor
7. Lack of 60fps in 1080 mode

February 26, 2015 at 8:26AM

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Lewis Callaway
Video Producer
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DSLR issues with the 5D Mark ||

Poor Dynamic Range
Poor H.264 Codec
Poor Audio inputs
No 60FPS
Limited Continuous Record Time

February 26, 2015 at 9:28PM

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GH4. Amazing camera for the price. No cam is perfect!

1. Lack of LOG / RAW.
2. Crappy micro HDMI port means very unreliable connection.
3. 2k DCI 24, 48, 96 would be fantastic.
4. Highlights get blown, they're gone. Better roll-off would be very nice.
5. Lacks cheap panasonic attachment for XLR inputs (like the A7s has).
6. Colours / Skin tones can be a bit weird, if you don't get your White Balance absolutely right.
7. Latitude - I'd love a bit more.

February 27, 2015 at 10:43AM

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aaron trinder
Director
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1) What is your camera?
Samsung NX1, NIkon D800, Sony A6000. Have shot on sony f5 and blackmagic cameras, before 2 years ago extensively on Sony ENG cameras.
2) What you use it for mainly?
Documentary Filmmaking, Short Films
3) Name 7 problems you have while filming, in order of importance.
- Audio, not even that fact that they are not XLR, the preamps and audio controls are always horrible, on every one of these DSLR's.
- Rolling Shutter (NX1 1080p mode has spoiled me, 4K mode breaks my heart), good rolling shutter is necessary for handheld doc work.
- Ergonomics, ability to quickly make setting changes
- Battery Life
- Dynamic Range
- 30 Minute Time Limit for interviews.
- Camera Codec - I want 10-bit 4:2:2 on my shoots

February 27, 2015 at 2:18PM

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Geoff C. Bassett
Director of Photography
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The biggest paint point for me with mirorless and dslr cameras has been the stills-first, video-second approach. Shoot for a handful of minutes only to have to stop and start recording again if it's a 45 minute speech, for example.

February 28, 2015 at 10:21AM

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1. GH4
2. Music shows
3. Problems
1. poor ergonomics = shaky footage
2. sound capture is always a problem
3. for events, AF is so amateurish. AF hunts
4. time limit 29mn
5. small size : people (customers) don't take you seriously enough. They are always impressed by footage though
6. needs a dozen accessories, rigs and so on to start with !!! almost 2x cost of camera
7. no 422 10 bits. Often a headache in post. Needs an external recorder for 422 10 bits. But then where do you put audio recorder, mic, external battery...

March 1, 2015 at 7:31PM

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Heri Rakotomalala
DP/Camera, Studio owner, Associate Producer
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T3i w/ Magic Lantern
Short Films & Freelance

1. NO HEADPHONE JACK
2. Poor low light
3. Crop factor
4. No internal image stabilizer
5. No 60 fps @ 1080p
6. Needs more external buttons to access settings
7. Not designed for video

March 3, 2015 at 2:13AM, Edited March 3, 2:13AM

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Eric Echo
Artist
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