February 9, 2016 at 2:12AM

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Should i get Magic Lantern?

Hi,

I have a Canon 70D, and i'm quite happy with it! however, sometimes i feel like i miss something.

Because of this reason, i came across Magic Lantern firmware. I know there's a nightly build for Canon 70D, but some say there are risks.

Do any of you have experience with it, or recommendations? Tips and comments are more than welcome.

Thanks in advance, Regards,

Jelle

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I've used it for approx 2 years now and never had any issues with it. It definantly makes the Canon dslrs better by adding some features like histogram, focus peaking etc that you could only dream of before.
They say it's a risk as a disclaimer if something should happen, but in own experience and other people that I know, nothing has happened to them. :)

February 9, 2016 at 7:41PM

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Morten Furre
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Thanks :) it's reassuring to hear the risks are minimum

Jelle Schaap

February 10, 2016 at 5:33AM

Use it for sure. I used it with Canon 60D, 600D and 5D Mark III for about 2 years.
Never had any issues but so many convinient features.

Best Regards,
Andrey

February 9, 2016 at 8:23PM

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have you used the Beta builds? because for the 70D it's not an completed build, still in beta. Or doesn't this dramaticly affect performance in your experience?

Jelle Schaap

February 10, 2016 at 5:35AM

Yes I always used nightly beta builds. Not experienced any issues except few freezes very rare.

Best Regards,
Andrey

Andrey Mishchenko

February 10, 2016 at 6:01PM

Thanks for your reply. It's reassuring to hear you had very few problems!

Jelle Schaap

February 11, 2016 at 12:18AM

Been using ML Raw of my 5D2 and 5D3 for a few years now, great stuff. Occasionally it freezes before starting the roll of a clip (very rare) but I've had more freezing issues with standard GH4 firmware than this. Nothing a quick battery pull didn't fix.

February 10, 2016 at 3:00PM, Edited February 10, 3:00PM

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Are that 'official' releases or nightly builds? but the occassional freeze is worth the other features?

Jelle Schaap

February 11, 2016 at 12:20AM

Nightly Builds. Don't know if there are any "official releases" that support ML Raw but I haven't upgraded it in forever

Josiah Duncan

February 11, 2016 at 2:16PM

okay thanks for your answers :)

Jelle Schaap

February 12, 2016 at 12:19AM

The problem with magic lantern is that if you install it onto your 70D you will loose the firmware licence by canon for this camera (only for this camera of course).
So if you install it, and then you have problems with the camera and it doesn't have to be a problem with magic lantern itself, you might not receive help by canon. In the worst case you will loose any warrenty claims.
Because of this I would rather recommand not to install Magic Lantern on your 70D.

February 11, 2016 at 3:24AM

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Eric Halbherr
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But you run it from your SD card, so if you remove the card there shouldn't be any trace left of ML right? Or does the camera somehow registers the voiding of your warranty?

Jelle Schaap

February 11, 2016 at 4:55AM

doesn't on my 550d, if i remove ML from firmware ( theres a option to do that while running ML ) it'll reboot and restore normal firmware without a trace of ML.

to reinstall ML, just update firmware with a boot card and it'll reinstall ML. no biggie, no damage and nothing to worry about.

Tony Anastasi

February 11, 2016 at 8:55AM

Yeah this is a common misconception. ML lives on the card, I've sent my 5D2 to have pixels remapped and Canon never complained, they just updated the firmware.

Josiah Duncan

February 11, 2016 at 3:26PM

Thanks! it's good to hear you had no problems with voiding the warranty, makes making a choice a little easier

Jelle Schaap

February 12, 2016 at 12:22AM

I've been in your shoes with the 70D -- just could not make up my mind about ML. I had the ML on all of the Rebels I had but hesitated about the 70D. Especially back when I had it the ML was very early alpha.

Take a look if instead installing the Cinestyle flat profile will scratch your itch:

http://www.technicolor.com/en/solutions-services/cinestyle

It did mine.

February 11, 2016 at 5:49PM

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Alex Zakrividoroga
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thanks! i will definitely try it out

Jelle Schaap

February 12, 2016 at 12:30AM

when you say 'missing something' then what would that be?

February 12, 2016 at 5:28AM

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Filmdudezero
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custom overlays, control over framerate (for hyperlapse i.e), raw footage (not sure if it's usefull for me), zebra for over/underexposure and control for interval.

Jelle Schaap

February 12, 2016 at 8:31AM

I say go for it!! Used for 5 years in my 650D and never looked back. It gives you great tools only most expensive cameras have. It's the best thing that could happen to the DSLR world!

February 12, 2016 at 9:32AM

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Andres Mata
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Does anyone shoot in RAW with it? I find the workflow kinda problematic to use...

February 13, 2016 at 3:10AM

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Andy Tokarski
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Yes, Pros are amazing quality for what you're paying, cons are that you need a decent amount of space and must buy the right cards (Get Sandisk 1066x 128gb or higher is my recommendation). I suggest buying RAWmagic because it can convert straight to 12bit lossless CinemaDNG to save space.

Josiah Duncan

February 13, 2016 at 11:45AM

Yeah, there are a lot of programs on the Magic Lantern forums that help with transfer. Plus Premiere can import the raw files now, which is pretty great. Before my 5D3 was stolen (sigh) I used Magic Lantern all the time and yeah, there are some problems occasionally but it's pretty great and totally worth it. There're a lot of great people on the forum who can help with any issues and I never had any freezes or random issues that couldn't be sorted with taking out the batter. :)

February 13, 2016 at 2:05PM, Edited February 13, 2:05PM

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I installed it without any issues, the zebra overlays are very useful. Sadly the fps override option is not available for the 70D

February 16, 2016 at 1:05AM, Edited February 16, 1:05AM

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Jelle Schaap
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How do you get the Audio Menu display on ML? I have only Speaker and Beep?

December 27, 2016 at 4:05AM

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Graeme Benson
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