April 5, 2017 at 1:16PM


Stuck between 2 cameras

So I was recently robbed and need to buy a new camera. I've used the a7smk 2 with slog paired with the Alexa and it looked fabulous. I really dig it! On the other hand I could afford the red raven but that wait time might kill me. I love getting wide on my cameras. To get wide on the raven I would need to rock a 17mm lens to get the look I'm after. Or maybe I should just go back to film school and steal a bolex?


Those are two WAY different cameras. What do you need the camera for? If you're shooting short film work, with controlled environments and lighting, then look at the Red Raven. If you're shooting doc work, areas where you have no lighting control, or low profile work, then the A7sii. Those cameras are built for very different workflows and shooting environments.

April 7, 2017 at 3:28PM

Craig Douglas
Editor/ Videographer

I actually feel they are one in the same. On commercial work I used the A7S as B-cam. Using S-log2 is slower for me to expose than a Red. Slog2 is good for controlled lighting and making sure you always use a light meter. With the Red Raven I pretty much know what I can get in the shadows and takes more light. If I was just using the A7S without S-log I would agree with you. Coloring would be through DaVince on either camera. Same process in my book :)


April 12, 2017 at 1:13PM, Edited April 12, 1:13PM

Well, when I say way different cameras, it's less on image quality, and more on ergonomics/ practicality. The a7sii is super small and portable, uses SD cards and makes small files, but uses tiny batteries, lacks dedicated buttons, more compressed footage, etc. The RED is a much bigger camera in comparison, uses large batteries, the files take much more space and require dedicated SSD's, but it has a very video-oriented setup, complete control over camera settings, and there's no way you're convincing someone you're an amateur, or not recording video if you film in a public place without asking. But the quality, video oriented controls, and overall functionality is the big reason the RED costs 5 times more. I would take the A7sii with me to Africa for filming, and I would hate to lug a RED around, and cause unwanted attention/ unneeded reactions. I would take a RED to a controlled film set, where I need reliability, functionality, and lighting isn't an issue, nor power. I would hate to show up with an A7sii (if given the option), and dig through the menus every time I need something changed, or need HDMI adapters at all times to work with anything else on set.

Craig Douglas

April 12, 2017 at 9:48PM

not trying to be snarky, but if I had that kind of money to buy those kinds of cameras, I wouldn't be asking here.

April 9, 2017 at 4:29AM


Where should I be asking? It's not that much money. Back in the day you had to drop this kind of money for a Panasonic AG-HVX200. My buddy just bought an Alexa Mini and a few others got Red Weapons. That's a lot of money to take advice from here.


April 12, 2017 at 1:17PM, Edited April 12, 1:17PM

How did you get robbed?

April 14, 2017 at 8:17PM


The answer to that might reveal why the a7s raven question is somehow difficult.

Indie Guy

April 14, 2017 at 9:17PM

Someone broke into my car while I was loading in gear.


April 16, 2017 at 6:37PM

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