October 25, 2014 at 8:48PM

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Weddings

Hey guys,

I just got finished shooting my first wedding. I had spent the last year shooting weekly recap videos at a summer camp, so I was confident I would have enough experience with fast acting live event coverage for a wedding, and, for the most part, I think it went fairly well. But I do have a few questions for the next one I'm doing in December.

1) I decided to shoot everything at 60fps because I wanted to potentially slow things down later. Should I have picked and chosen my shots that i wanted slow down and shot most of it at 24fps?
2) I started out with my whole gear bag and lens collection, but mostly found myself shooting everything with my 35mm and by the time the reception rolled around, I left everything but my camera and 35mm (and batteries, memory cards, and Flycam) in the car. Do you wedding videographers take your lens collection with you or do you have one that you normally stick to? I'm flying to the one in December, so I want to consolidate as much as possible.
3) How the heck should I go about getting good audio? The guy who hired me said that we should set up my shotgun mic close to himself (the minister) and the bride and groom. It sounded like a decent idea in theory, but it turned out pretty sub-par. I wanted to hook a Lav up to my phone and have him stick that in his pocket, but for some reason my phone doesn't like the microphone even with the adapter thing I bought for it.

Sorry for such a long-winded question (especially if I come off as sounding dumb), I just want to get good at this. I think it's a blast to cover live events like this.

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hi.

1) 60 frames/second have un problem. For people that doesn't know this aspect, appears low buget or low quality for them. Trust me. Not for slow motion, is for the normal motion. The normal client don't know the diference , between 60 frames to 24 or 30 frames download to 24. The y told you "I see the same
Is the reality. :S
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October 27, 2014 at 6:42AM, Edited October 27, 6:42AM

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Ragüel Cremades
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2) I use the lens 28 mm for almost everything in the action. When the are relax without any surprise, i sue all lens. But your 35 mm it's fine.
3) The audio i connect to zoom h4n to the audio console of event. Is the best way to have everything with the max quality.

October 27, 2014 at 6:44AM

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Ragüel Cremades
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1) I always shoot at 24fps because I like the look of it. I don't do a heck of a lot of slow motion so it's ok. True, my client may not know the diff between 60fps and 24fps but I will and that's why I don't shoot 60fps.

2) I use a Panasonic GH3 and have the 12-35mm (24-70 equiv) f2.8 lens on it the whole wedding. That gives me the flexibility to go wide and close if I need to. I have the 35-100mm (70-200mm equiv) on another cam during the ceremony but after that it's all 12-35mm. Yes I do carry a few other lenses ..just in case but 99% of the time it stays in the bag. The lightweightedness (?) of the M43 system makes it so easy to bring all my stuff around without braking my back and arms.

3) For audio I use a set of wireless mics hooked up to the officiant and the groom. The receiver is connected to a portable recorder. I also shoot with a rode mic in camera as a backup and for syncing purposes. I use a set from Sony (can't remember the model name) but I know a lot out there who use a Seinheiser system.

One other thing you shouldn't forget is extra lighting...LED, tungsten...whatever your choice is...never rely on just location lighting.

Hope this helps!

E

October 27, 2014 at 7:06PM

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Im liking that 12-35mm Panasonic f2.8 - just got mine yesterday. Beauty of a lens for M 4/3 mounts. I've found - on an unrelated note - that the 60fps footage dumped into a 24fps timeline looks and acts like 24fps - I haven't had any problems with it. Shooting in 60fps gives me that flexibility to still achieve 24fps (normal) and 24fps (slomo).

Jake the film guy Keenum

November 6, 2014 at 10:19AM

It would be hard for us to shot with just 1 fixed lens. I think you need the range of long medium and close ups. There is so much emotion and excitement going on that having close ups make the video feel more personal. We use a LAC mic, a Rode mic and Tascam with a shot gun mic. I believe people subconscious can tell the difference in frame rate. During certain times with different FPS can make the film look more realistic and add some dynamics to your film. Yes a person might not be able to point out specifically that the FPS is different but you can still pick up on it.

October 28, 2014 at 3:50PM, Edited October 28, 3:50PM

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Carl Busch
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Hey Paul, here's my take:

1. This is personal preference. I personally hate how 60p looks unless it's slowed down and so I switch on-the-fly as I know I'll only use slow-mo sparingly throughout the highlight and final edit. As you come into your own style you'll be more comfortable with shooting for the edit and picking exactly how you want to capture each shot in terms of frame rate, movement, composition, etc.

2. Again, personal preference. I've been shooting weddings for over 4 years and can easily fit all of my camera gear into my case logic backpack (tripod w/ slider and monopod fit into my tripod bag and the fly-cam travels naked). In the backpack I have my A cam, GH4, B cams, Hero & Hero4, 3 lenses (24, 35, 85mm), Rode VideoMic Pro, H4N, Olympus pocket recorder, lav mics, ND filter set, on-cam LED, batteries, chargers and misc cables and supplies. There's always a corner or closet with an outlet where you can store your gear during the reception (or often times there's room behind the DJ - just ask, he's cool). I keep the slider on sticks and move around mostly with the monopod and fly-cam, but I would never leave anything in the car because 1: you never know what you might need and 2: shit gets stolen at these kind of events all the time.

3. #1 piece of advice: always have at least one audio backup (2 is even better). Hopefully you're arriving to each location early, so you should have some time to quickly talk with the DJ and/or audio tech to see what they've got running during the ceremony and reception. Best case scenario, you get a line-out from them and feed that into an audio recorder, like the Zoom H4N. Have the guys do a quick test and make sure your levels are set. Once you get word that the bride has arrived hit record (yes, you may have 10 mins of pre-roll but it's better than starting 10 mins late). As a backup I also mic the groom with a matchstick lav that feeds into my Olympus pocket recorder. Picked this up based on a Joe Simon recommendation and the combo is amazing! Test the levels with the groom, hit record, place the recorder in his pocket and tell him not to touch it (remember to grab it right after the ceremony so there's no lav in the formal pics)! Your 3rd mic is your on-camera mic (the Rode for me) and should be good enough to use if something goes wrong with the other two, but hopefully that never happens.

Good luck!

October 28, 2014 at 6:24PM

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