March 22, 2016 at 4:06PM

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What should i get a camera for filmmaking?

Hi,
Im from Poland and I really enjoy making little story videos or documentaries, but mine camera that I've got is broken. It was a cheap Sony camera for about 50$. Now I have budget ~800$ (In Poland it's about 3000zł) but I don't know what to buy. I was thinking about mirrorless cameras like Lumix series like GH3 but here in Poland it's hard to find it cheap. Any Ideas?

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How about the Nikon D5200 or D5300 ? Are they cheaper than the GH3 ?

March 22, 2016 at 11:46PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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I can get it for about 700$, what about Panasonic G6?

Klaudiusz Kubiec

March 23, 2016 at 2:21AM

I would stay away from Nikon. The video quality & features are horrible for video. I've personally used the D5200 & it has a noticeable banding issue.

Have you looked at the Sony rx10 mark 1? It has a fixed 24-200 lens with a constant f2.8 aperture. The sensor is smaller at 1 inch but delivers very good results & has a lot of great video functionality. I've personally rented & used it multiple times. They are going for about $500 on eBay right now bc the mark 2 version was released last year.

You could also look into one of the canon t series & get the magic lantern firmware hack.

Hope that helps!

Derek Armitage

March 23, 2016 at 8:51AM

With that budget, I'd definitely look at either the Panasonic GH3 or the Panasonic G7. If you plan on using those 800$ on other gear besides the camera, then I'd say a used GH2 is the way to go, which you can find relatively easily for less than 300$.

March 23, 2016 at 10:57AM, Edited March 23, 10:57AM

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José Pedro Pinto
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I have 3 propositions:
1) Sony RX100 Mark I or II + some audio like Zoom H1
2) Panasonic G7 with Kit Lens
3) Panasonic GH2 With some lenses and audio like Zoom H1
What do you think, what should i get for nonprofsessional filmmaking for online use?

March 23, 2016 at 11:03AM, Edited March 23, 11:03AM

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Give the three choices, I would opt for the Panasonic G7 because it produces a better looking video image ( equivalent to the GH4 with most profiles ) and shoots 4K video and 4K Photo modes.

Guy McLoughlin

March 23, 2016 at 11:44AM

I can get only body for about 600$ or 750$ for the body+kit. What should i get? Is it worth to get only body and buy lens for 200$?

Klaudiusz Kubiec

March 23, 2016 at 12:37PM

If you go with the G7, the 14-42mm f/3.5-5.6 kit lens is a very good place to start. Just keep in mind that the minimum aperture is terrible (f/4.1 at 18mm, f/5.3 at 25mm, f/5.5 at 35mm). Other than that, it covers a useful range and it's pretty good to begin with.

José Pedro Pinto

March 23, 2016 at 2:02PM

>>>I would stay away from Nikon. The video quality & features are horrible for video. I've personally used the D5200 & it has a noticeable banding issue.

Hmmm... I've been getting much better video results from the Nikon D5200 over the past 2 years. Good color, usable dynamic range, and no moire. ( which is why I always recommend the Nikon D5200 or D5300 over any of the Canon equivalents or even the Panasonic GH3 when it comes to shooting with no moire )

Occasionally I have seen a little bit of banding in blue skies with all of the low cost cameras including Canon, Nikon, Panasonic, Sony, but generally it doesn't happen too often. ( in some cases you can hide the banding by adding a little bit of gaussian noise in post )

March 23, 2016 at 11:41AM

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Guy McLoughlin
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In response to the D5200, I must not be doing something right because it seems that even at ISO 100 with good lighting, anything trending towards black has noticeable banding and the only way to fix it seems to be to crush the blacks.

Any suggestions on what settings (profile, ISO, etc.) you use most often that give you the best results?

Thanks

Derek Armitage

March 23, 2016 at 12:51PM

The Sony a6000 is also a great option, as the price is around the same as the G7. The a6000 doesn't record UHD, but it has an APS-C sensor. Also, it records 60fps 1080p at 50mbps, while the G7 only does 60fps 1080p at 28mbps (which is only good if you don't plan on doing much grading). And it might get a little cheaper, now that the a6300 came out. Depends on your priorities.

March 23, 2016 at 2:08PM

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José Pedro Pinto
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>>>Any suggestions on what settings (profile, ISO, etc.) you use most often that give you the best results?

I've been using Samuel Hurtado's free FLAAT 11 profile, which does a pretty good job for me...

http://www.similaar.com/foto/flaat-picture-controls/index.html

There's a newer free profile for Nikon cameras called "CineFlat", but I haven't tried it yet. ( the Nikon is my sister's camera, so I don't get to borrow it very often )

http://photographio.com/nikon-flat-picture-control-videography-photograp...

I am surprised you've had so much trouble with banding because it's been a pretty rare thing for me. I know I will see banding in over-exposed skies that I bring down in post and the image will band because there's not enough highlight data to represent the blue tones.

March 24, 2016 at 10:30AM, Edited March 24, 10:30AM

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Guy McLoughlin
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