September 6, 2016 at 3:32AM, Edited September 6, 3:33AM
WHICH LAPTOP FOR FILM EDITING AND GENERAL USE?
I would really appreciate advice for buying a new laptop. I am a total amateur film-maker (only got a very basic tin-can camcorder at present) and have made a couple of simple, low quality short films using my (now stolen) MacBook Pro with iMovie.
I don't want to jump on the Apple bandwagon unless it's advised. I feel they are overpriced and I didn't really enjoy using my mac previously (I found it kept freezing and jolted the videos, perhaps this was because I was using iMovie?!.. And it was 5 years old..?).
Any advice on which laptop to go for would be great - bearing in mind I am doing this for fun, and need to use it for life too... But then I am likely to become more geeky about film editing down the line! I have read a previous thread on the topic but I don't understand half of the jargon used!
On a basic level I understood that *intel core i7* and an *8-bit screen* are a must. But brands/models wise I am still stuck... My budget could stretch to the £1000 mark but I don't want to spend it just because I can.
just in my opinion i felt the same way about apple before, but ive been using a 2011 15" macbook pro for video editing, sound editing, and random 9gag-ing since the model went on the market and up to this day, and it was really great cause it is very user friendly, didnt really have to think about it much aside from charging it and updating it.
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June 13, 2017 at 6:49PM
Alright so laptops are a really touchy subject, let me figure out a few things about what environment your using this in
1. Do you have access to power ?
2. Are you field editing ?
3. What software are you using
So I've been using a Macbook Pro since senior year of highschool and a custom PC based tower . Laptops are NOT for intensive editing, they are great for news-cutting but as soon as you start comping after effects into the mix or doing intensive color correction your laptop will fizz out.
As far as brands go... I would recommend Origin PC or ASUS. Stay away from dell, they are overpriced for what they give you. My overall recommendation would be spend the extra money and get a Mac
September 6, 2016 at 5:25AM
Macbook Pro with full specs is the best laptop for Film editing and Artists. But with 1000 bucks, this is difficult to get. I would suggest get a Laptop with following specs if possible, or buy a used 3rd or 4th gen HP Elitebook workstation or Dell precision workstation. I had previously used HP elitebook workstaion, which was very good machine. And I am currently using a Dell Precision Laptop with 2nd gen Ci7 Quad core. Which still is a workhorse beast. But quite shaggy for portability. The good thing is I bought it under 500$ from a used laptop store, and I am quite happy with this machine. So you may also try.
An editing system must have, in my opinion:
-A quad core i7 processor
-at least 16 DDR3 RAM
-at least 1 GB dedicated graphic card preferably nvidia quadro, (as it has native mercury playback support)
-a bright led display with a tleast 1920x1080 screen resolution.
Don't buy cheap 13.3" macbook pro, it is the most miserable machine for editing.
Hope this will help.
September 6, 2016 at 5:46AM
Macbook Pro has never been the king of editing , its the king of reliability but not performance at all. If I hadn't gotten a Mid-2013 Macbook Pro I would have cried , they don't have Nvidia cards in them anymore which makes them complete garbage .
Also, I love my Quadro - mostly because I got it for free , they aren't worth buying Geforce Vs Quadro Benchmarks are usually fairly similar, and Geforce usually beats Quadro's in most cases (other then 3D stuff)
September 6, 2016 at 6:24AM
i agree with mr.Muhammad, but since it sounds like you are small time editor, i would change his specs a little and say these are my minimum specs:
quad core i5 (i7 recommended)
at least 8 gb ram (16 recommended)
no dedicated graphics card (1gb dedicated recommended)
screen resolution just as he said 1920X1080
plus i am a big fanboy of ssd memory i would highly recommend that.
although i agree that macbook pro 13 is a week machine for editing, light editing in iMovie, is a task any new macbook today is capable of doing. the specs above are capable of a lot more than simple and small edits
September 8, 2016 at 9:01AM
The 3 most important things are:
1) Raw Performance
Performance and price are rather intuitively understood. But comfort is more complicated.
The thing is for a set amount of money you can get great raw performance with terrible comfort/premium built laptop. You get huge plastic noisy low quality screen soft keyboard laptop that has a strong i7 and all the bells and whistles. apple macbook pro 15 inch is high performance high quality and high price. since you gave you top price at around $1400. I see a few options. medium build quality high performance dell inspirion 7000 series, you can get their top tier i7,ssd,strong graphics card, great 4k screen. or you can go with a used or refurbished macbook pro 15 inch anything from 2012 up is decent, and you will get good results. You should remember that if you are using imovie or fcpx on mac, comparing similar hardware between mac and windows laptops, the mac usually gets better results with the same spec sheet. Remember the laptop is your tool, the more you invest in it the better the tool will be. but a slower machine doesn't mean bad editing, just slower editing. if you are just casual editing, the macbook pro 13 inch is enough for that. anything more than that look for: i5 or i7 cpu with quad core, 8gb ram minimum (16 recommended), ssd or ssd with hard disk , no graphics card needed but deff recommended (especially with effects)
September 8, 2016 at 8:55AM, Edited September 8, 8:55AM
No matter what you buy, consider the following (+ recommendations concerning your budget):
- quad-core processor with hyperthreading, 6th generation (for doubling RAM capacity by using DDR4) -> Intel i7-6700HQ
- GeForce Graphics -> 960M or better, but 950M will be enough for you, too
- upgradable RAM (not glued as in the MacBook Pros) -> min. 8GB DDR4 to start with
- upgradable harddrive(s) (not glued) -> at best 1x 128GB m.2 SSD for OS, 1x 1TB HDD or SSD for data
- interchangeable battery (not glued)
- fast external connector, like Thunderbolt 2/3 or USB 3.1 Type-C (Gen2)
- FHD display (absolutely enough, more will just suck battery life)
This way you're ready for future upgrades whenever you have enough money or exchange parts if they break. That's why I wouldn't buy a Macbook Pro, especially not if you're on a budget.
Consider the new HP Omen (check HP store). It doesn't have USB 3.1 or TB3 though, but if you're a student you'll get 20% off in the hp education store. In case you want to invest more, go for the HP ZBook Studio that even gives you 2x TB3 and checks all the boxes.
September 8, 2016 at 10:38AM, Edited September 8, 11:00AM
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September 8, 2016 at 7:54PM, Edited September 8, 7:54PM
I would think something with a fast 3+ GHz Intel 4 core uP, lots of RAM, 8GB or more, a 6Gbit/Sec SATA3 solid state drive (SSD) and a NVIDA GeForce 2GB video card would do the trick. I'm not sure if you can get all that for <£1000 but those are the features you want to look for.
September 8, 2016 at 9:54PM
You may want to consider something like a Sager / Clevo. They are completely configurable and built to order when bought from a place like xoticpc. I always bought HP, Dell or Lenovo before but recently bought a Sager and won't be going back. It's more cost effective and you get exactly what you want. They're marketed as gaming laptops but configured correctly they're great for graphics and editing. No bloatware either!
September 9, 2016 at 4:33PM
Buy or build a desktop FIRST if you don't already have one. That way when you need to do some heavy lifting you'll be covered. Your initial budget of $1000 could be used to build a reasonable starter machine that can be upgraded later based on your future needs. In comparison, $1000 doesn't get you much when it comes to laptops these days. Sure you'll get an i7 and maybe even a decent amount of ram. Unfortunately, you'll probably spend more of your time waiting for timelines to buffer, and simple compositions to render than you will actual work. At your price point laptop brand won't matter too much, they'll all be handicapped in one way or another. If your dead set on getting a laptop though I'd wait and save a bit more coin to invest in a new higher end Macbook. Windows can be a miserable OS when you encounter glitches or errors. The Apple OS runs a bit smoother and system bugs are easier to narrow down. If and when you do encounter something you can't fix you can just drop your laptop off at the Apple store. Later, when you decide to upgrade to something else a Macbook will likely retain more of its value versus say an Asus or a Dell.
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September 10, 2016 at 10:55PM, Edited September 10, 10:55PM
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September 11, 2016 at 11:36AM
THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYONE FOR YOUR HELP! It seems that the general consensus is to keep saving and invest in Apple.
Now for the next question... which editing software?!
September 13, 2016 at 3:33AM
If you want something for free, HitFilm Express is free and should have a smaller learning curve to others like it; Whereas DaVinci Resolve is more professional. If your willing to pay for it, Final Cut is more commonly used and is very well optimised for use on a Mac.
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September 15, 2016 at 2:10PM
The Mac is not a better laptop, it is a different laptop choice. If you are running Mac software, then a mac laptop is the only choice.
It is also not a value choice, meaning you pay more for less, but that is not a consideration if you like the way the Mac software works and don't mind paying a fortune for it and expensive upgrades, I am not saying a Mac is a bad laptop, when compared to similarly priced windows laptops, it is anemic and very poor value BY COMPARISON.
Since you have a budget and choose to buy Mac, make sure you get everything you need at the time of purchase. Computers only run software. So if you are computer agnostic and more focused on software and what software can do for you as a tool. My recommendation would be to make sure you can upgrade the ram in the laptop and then make sure that if you upgrade ram, that the computer can make use of it. Finding out is simply sending email to the mfg asking if you can and popping off the ram cover and seeing if ram is replaceable. Not uncommon to find ram is hardwired in and replacing ram is not possible. Check out reviews on websites like tomshardware or anandtech
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I use an Acer Aspire V17 Nitro, and I share your opinion that often (not always) Apple products charge just for the logo and not for the performance. My editing laptop is a gaming laptop, and since they don't just make editing laptops searching for budget gaming laptops is the easiest way to find the product that will suit your needs most closely. Since most indie film making is very unpredictable having a laptop as opposed to investing in a desktop is pretty nice; I've hauled this beast around many times and being able to upload your footage and do some editing on the spot can be insanely helpful. This laptop has an Intel® Core™ i7-4720HQ quad-core processor 2.60 GHz, 16 gigs of RAM, a 17.3 inch full HD monitor, 256 gigs of SSD and a GeForce GTX 960M graphics card (which is good if you want to use it for gaming or get into heavy effects in your editing). It's slightly over the range you specified but there are a bunch of other cheaper and very closely related models.
This is a good place for you to look. Most of these are cheaper than my exact model of laptop but there are some right around your range that have almost the exact same features just with less SSD (which is really nice because it's unbelievably fast; if you have a laptop with any SSD your operating system will be stored on it and your loading and booting times will be nonexistent). I suggest these mostly because you said you want something that's good for editing and just for general use also and these are perfect for that.
October 4, 2016 at 3:56PM
Of course this is completely my personal opinion, but I love the MacBook Pro 13" Retina Display. I use mine with Final Cut Pro X installed and I have even edited in the car and on planes in the past. It's a fast and versatile little laptop. A great buy.
On the flip side, the price is very high unfortunately and one major downside is that you will have to edit off an external hard drive. Otherwise the project files will eat up your storage in the blink of an eye. Other than that though there isn't a laptop I could more recommend!
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I work in FullHD, I never edited in 4K or so. But I do a lot of editing and color correction in FullHD.
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December 11, 2016 at 9:19PM, Edited December 11, 9:19PM
If you want to be portable and do edits on the go get a Macbook Pro. Own one and didn't let me down ever! I use most of the applications of the Adobe Suite and it causes no problem BUT if you need to do some serious shit in after effects or some colour grading/effect stuff often then go for something bigger and stronger. :)
January 3, 2017 at 11:24AM
Hey there, I've been editing on a tight personal budget with the occasional editing session on a set or studio. But when at home I get plenty of work done with a Mid 2012 MacBook with a 13in screen. I have personally upgraded it myself wi 16gb of ram and a SSD I use a 2tb WD portable drive for footage storage and when editing with Final Cut I don't notice any lag unless I'm running Resolve next to it on a external display and it a little slow during large exports. So a MacBook with a 2.5GHz is perfectly adequate for editing and I see no need to spend more on higher spec model.
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Im not a mac guy. I dont see how people keep saying you should go for the mac pro, as it is overpriced and has some issues with the newer models, like ports etc. We all know that.
I would go for something like an XPS 15, with a newer nvidia GTX 1000 series card, i7 and plenty of options to upgrade all below the budget for a 15inch macbook pro. In my opinion you get a LOT more bang for buck going that way.
Of course, if you are editing on FCP there really is no question here whatsoever, so Im guessing you are editting on Adobe software. Then its just more horsepower for less. Easy...
March 30, 2017 at 2:37AM
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Add $20 US a month (not sure what it cost in your currency) for Adobe Premiere and you are golden, or use Davinci or Hit Film express for free. That laptop also has a 4K Display so you will have a little bit more work space than 1080. If you don't go with that exact model there are plenty of Laptops out there in that price range with that power.
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