Lena Dunham? I thought I was reading No Film School, not that bullshit IndieWire...
When I think of Logan, it came more across of Man vs. Self, rather than Good vs. Evil. But that's just me.
And Yeah, I'm not so much into any of the genres you listed, which is probably why I have such a predisposition on the whole superhero genre.
But I really wasn't referencing that what I'm yearning for was more originality in superhero movies, though re-reading my post it definitely comes off that way. Simply put, what I want to see is directors, writers, cinematographers, & actors holding themselves to a set of higher standards. But now I'm starting to think my main problem with this genre is lack of character growth/development.
Okay, I'm going to be honest here, this entire time I'm thinking of Captain America, and not the first one from the 2011 film, but the one in every other Marvel movie that doesn't seem to expose a single flaw of the guy. I'm getting sick of repetition of "According to me, this is the right thing to do, and I'm Captain America, so of course I couldn't be wrong. And even if I am, I'm not." The narcissistic bastardization of a role with such leadership and influence, infuriates me.
But that was a tangent of my own beliefs, and I could easily be dead wrong, as well as disabling myself by watching these movies with eyes wide shut.
I would genuinely enjoy it if you, Brennan, or anyone else can respond with times that his flaws were shown (in the movies, not comics)...or can redirect me to some sort of rhetorical analysis that can help me see the light...and yes, I understand that I have gone completely off track, sorry about that. I hated the first Thor movie, until I watched it a second time through and saw the huge transformation he went through.
I'm excited to see Thor: Ragnarok, I think it will be the first Marvel movie with a direct Avenger (two if we include Hulk) that I might enjoy....okay one last tangent. Mark Ruffalo is a phenomenal Bruce Banner.
My view of this analysis is that these movies are being made because they're popular, the solid box office numbers will almost always be a sure thing, and that they can be made.
But to me, it feels like these movies are being made with those purposes only, easy money and easy entertainment.
"But Ben, isn't that the whole point? Entertaining people and making money doing it? They're doing what they set out to do, and are pretty damn successful at doing it!"
Yes, I'd have to say you're 100% right, they are succeeding at what they're doing. Entertaining, making money, etc. But when it comes down to the 1's and 0's that are making up this digital film, I want to be able to feel the director and crews heart in it. I want something other than the everyday standard theme in superhero movies of "Good vs Evil". But, shit, like I've said about 100 times in this post "I, my, me", in the eyes of the general public, these movies are gold. Kill the bad guys, save the princess.
>Marvel movies aren't for cinematography.
I couldn't agree with you more and those who have said it before. A great Marvel movie, is the movie where I forget it's a Marvel movie, and Guardians did exactly just that. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 1, was a masterpiece, cinematography and all. Not only the dialogue, grading, cgi, acting, editing, but what really got me into both films was the SOUND DESIGN. This is something that'd been overlooked by about the last 10 movies I've seen. Vol. 2 was also pretty good, but after Seeing Baby Driver (I know not a superhero movie, go with me though) any other movie I've seen this summer can't beat its editing or sound design. Gotta love Edgar Wright. I would love to see him direct something of a super hero movie.
DC: I enjoy the flatter picture too, I guess when I did watch Man of Steel, I felt like it wasn't a Superman movie, though in hindsight maybe that was a good thing.
I'm tired of Marvel's movies consisting of multiple superheros. Civil War? You've got to be kidding me, this was Avengers 2.5 with a whiney-er Captain America. They did some great things with Spider-man Homecoming, but I agree, it's like "lets do this just to make money".
I wish that DC could get it together. I feel like they strive with their character development, and really start out with a similar vibe to Logan...but all of that seems to fly out the window as soon as they've established the smallest amount of connection to the audience. It's "lets blow shit up and fight". Wonder Woman (not my favorite movie) had some fantastic exposition, as did Man of Steel, Watchmen, V for Vendetta...Snyder has lost his way.
I would love if he could stop communicating with dialogue and fighting, and communicate with some more visuals like in Watchmen. And on a side note, I would love if he'd give the graders a shot of actually adding in a variation of color, rather than his typical 30% saturation, haha.