Hi Robert. Not sure what i've done to annoy you, but i apologize if i've slighted or erred you.

I can only judge what has been shown and it looks sterile. Possibly as Gene stated a result of the look they were going for, or maybe a result of the lens they used. I'll leave you to your high end work you've taken a break from to correct me. all the best, Barry.

Hi Gene, Yeah that looks rather brilliant doesn't it-body wise and image wise. I always forget about Kinemax, but as you say the apparent lack of support in the west is a downer. I'd really like to see it in person, but don't know any local rental house that stocks it.

The image from the BMD 4k sensor certainly isn't as flat as other cameras, don't think it has a massive dynamic range, it's also got a host of other problems that again may have been fixed. It certainly isn't as good as the sensor they have for the cinema and pocket camera.

The RAVEN may be a really good camera, i'm just right now this minute not 100% convinced it's the best investment for someone looking to buy. The footage i'd like to see in a better environment than youtube no doubt and is by no means terrible-it's good. It's just the style of the video doesn't really reveal all it could about the camera. No doubt there'll be more to see from RED themselves before release.

Well meat is certainly more appetizing than plastic and you can cook it to your spec easily. Good analogy.

Well RED clearly wanted to show it's fixed the blue channel clipping problem they had, so they've avoided pushing a magenta tone here no doubt. Whether they have i don't know since i haven't had requests from the DPs i work with for RED recently.

Look on Vimeo for any footage you want, plenty of decent things. Just from memory if you search for 'Blackmagic 4k romeo philip bloom' or something like that you'll see some very nice skin tones from a BMD camera. Very natural. You could rent 'Blue is the warmest color' that looked lovely, natural and cinematic with C-log on the C300.

I only thought this was decent, nothing spectacular. Felt a bit like RED blowing smoke, all over the set and up my ass. Just joking don't lynch me.

I think comparable footage could be gotten with similarly priced cameras, the Raven at this moment appears to be nothing really special and if anything it's quite plastic looking.