December 4, 2015 at 10:33AM

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My love/hate relationship for the A7s

Hey NFS people. Wanted to get your opinion about the A7s in regards to it's form factor. I have gotten images out of the A7s that I haven't gotten out of any other camera that I've used. Now granted I haven't used the big daddies but wow that A7s is totally beast with the images you get and the low light? Holy *******. It's amazing. But I hate the form factor. Its too small in my hands. It's Sony whatever mount they use. And it looks like a point and shoot to be honest.

I know its supposed to be small and light and easy to get great shots but I would've bought this camera already if it were inside the body of say the C100 or that type of form factor, something that I can hold without dropping it, and with more than just three lenses that work with the mount (not counting metabones stuff).

Anyone else had issues like this with the A7s or is that just me?

Thanks

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This really boils down to the pros and cons of buying a DSLR/M43 camera vs a Pro Camera meant for video. Yeah, pro cams have better ergonomics, but you'll likely pay for that luxury. This is why so many people have opted to kit their DSLRs/M43 cameras out with cages, monitors, and focal adapters. There is also the added benefit of adding as you go. I like the idea of having such a modular system because I can modify it to fit the job every time. If you need to go light/Run and Gun, remove everything but the camera and cage with handle. If you have more of a studio environment, load that sucker up. The flexibility is great.

There are many different cages and kits you can buy for the A7s that can fit your ergonomic needs. I'd suggest starting here:http://dslrvideoshooter.com/7-great-sony-a7s-cage-options/

Once you've done some comparing on those, branch out and see what new items are coming out. I saw a board post recently for a new cage that may be appealing to you: http://nofilmschool.com/boards/questions/how-about-new-camera-cage-remot...

Is there any particular reason you'd be against an adapter like metabones? I chose to go with metabones because the quality of the adapter and the new world of glass options outside of my m43 mount. I'd highly suggest you look into it. Even with budget adapters.

TL;DR I think the shooters that use DSLR/M43 cameras feel your pain and add cages and accessories to minimize it.

December 4, 2015 at 2:12PM

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RJ Ortiz
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Agreed, great response thank you. My only thing against cages and metabones adapters is it's just one more thing to buy whereas with the Canon Cinemas you know its ready to go and it feels great. For the metabones I haven't used them yet, I fear taking them on a pro shoot because of the chance that the lenses won't work like normal as they're not in a native environment but I should probably do some more research huh ;) not to mention they're pretty pricey.

Btw that cage looks amazing, I've been waiting for something that fits multiple cameras while staying small and tight around the body. Thanks for sharing.

December 4, 2015 at 3:43PM

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Clark McCauley
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There are pros and cons to shooting with a small camera versus shooting with a cine camera.

I like the small size of the GH4 and A7S because you can pack 2 or 3 cameras in a small case ( so it's easier to work as a solo shooter ), and gimbals are much cheaper for small cameras. ( as much as half to one third the price of a gimbal required to fly a cine camera ) It's also a lot easier to hold a 5 lb gimbal for 30 minutes compared to trying to hold a 15 lb gimbal for the same amount of time.

Also, once you add on a 4K monitor/recorder with SSD drives your small camera is starting to gain weight.

I've played with the Blackmagic Ursa camera, which is a 25 lb "boat anchor" once you've added on a lens and a V-lock battery. Fine on a tripod, but I would never want to have to hand hold something like this. ( the new Ursa Mini is a lot smaller )

December 4, 2015 at 3:39PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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I do love a small camera, what I'm wishing is that a a bigger camera with better ergonomics packed the same punch as the A7s with all the features it has. *Cough SONY* With a well structured and correctly graded A7s shot (plus shogun) you can easily edit it in with scarlet footage.

December 4, 2015 at 3:46PM

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Clark McCauley
Spaceman
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>>>what I'm wishing is that a a bigger camera with better ergonomics packed the same punch as the A7s

You're never going to get a Full Frame cine style camera ( unless you you want cough up the down payment for small house and buy a RED WEAPON with FF sensor ), but the Canon C100 or Sony FS5 / FS7 comes pretty close in other aspects.

December 4, 2015 at 5:31PM, Edited December 4, 5:31PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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I have the a7s and now the FS5 at work.

I'm with you on your pros/cons. The image is great—I've used it with a Shogun a number of times, and it's comical how quickly the camera becomes a leaning tower (especially when I have it rigged up with the Tascam DR60D and Switronix Powerbase). The small size makes it easy to pack and run around with, but also makes it burdensome if you rig it up.

The FS5 is mostly the answer I was looking for: a7s image quality (and then some), big sensor, great low light performance, in a small package that is made for video with the addition of internal variable ND (a7s needs this badly) and improved rolling shutter.

The one a7s thing I miss is the viewfinder.

December 6, 2015 at 6:22AM

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David S.
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