January 9, 2015 at 7:51PM

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Canon T3i audio

Im having trouble figuring out what audio solution would be best for me for short films. Should I get a videomic pro or another on-camera style mic, or should I get an ntg-2 & put it on a boom pole, I'm also considering getting a Tascam dr-60d or a riggy assist

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The internal audio that the T3i records is ok, but not great. I would go with the Tascam DR-60D Mk2 recorder, which enables you to record 48 kHz 24-bit audio and has a very good noise-floor. ( more than 20 dB quieter than the T3i )

January 10, 2015 at 5:08AM

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Guy McLoughlin
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Ok so with the Tascam DR-60D, would it be better so use it with the videomic pro or the NTG-2? I'm mostly gonna be doing narrative work

Talus McKill

January 10, 2015 at 7:41AM

So with the Tascam DR-60D mk2 which mic would be best? The Rode videomic pro or the NTG-2 on a boom pole? Or would it be best to use both?

January 10, 2015 at 11:17AM

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Talus McKill
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i recommend the H4n

January 10, 2015 at 1:03PM, Edited January 10, 1:02PM

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Christian Gentry
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>>>So with the Tascam DR-60D mk2 which mic would be best? The Rode videomic pro or the NTG-2 on a boom pole?

The VideoMic Pro is very good if you want a simple on-camera set-up, but if you have the Tascam DR-60D mk2 recorder you should be using a professional XLR mic which will produce better sound in your finished recordings.

If your budget only allows for one mic, then I would look at the following three low cost mics...

Audio-Technica AT875 ( $160 ) : This is a short shotgun mic that works quite well indoors and outdoors. It's a bit "thin" on the lower audio range, so you will want to boost the lower end with a bit of EQ to get the best quality audio from it.

Rode NTG-2 ( $230 ) : This is a great mic for outdoor work ( with proper wind protection ), but it picks up a fair bit of reflected off-axis sound when used indoors. I owned one of these for about 2 years, and then sold it after buying the Sennheiser MKE600.

Sennheiser MKE600 ( $300 ) : This is my favorite low cost shotgun mic that works well both indoors and outdoors. Compared to the Rode NTG-2 shotgun, the MKE600 sounds a little "brighter" and is less sensitive to off-axis reflected sound. If you can afford the extra $70, I would definitely choose the MKE600 over the NTG-2.

...If all you want to shoot is indoor audio, or if you have enough budget to buy two mics, I would look at buying either a cardioid or hyper-cardioid mic to record indoor dialog. These mics have a "fuller" ( more natural ) sound and are much less sensitive to off-axis reflected sound than low-cost shotgun mics are. Hyper-cardioid mics have a narrower audio pick-up range almost like a shotgun mic, where cardioid mics have a wider pick-up range. ( cardioid mics are cheaper and can be used to record two people standing next to each other without requiring a boom op to follow which person is speaking )

The "indoor" mics I would look at are...

Audio-Technica AT3031 Cardioid mic ( discontinued, about $150 used on eBay )
Rode NT5 Cardioid mic ( $220 )
Audio-Technica AT4021 Cardioid Mic ( $350 )

AKG Blue Line CK93 Hypercardioid mic ( $480 )
Audix SCX1/HC mic ( $500 )
Audio-Technica AT4053b Hypercardioid mic ( $600 )

January 10, 2015 at 1:04PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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The camera audio on the T3i is awful! I had one, and still use one at church - always use a separate audio recorder.

January 11, 2015 at 1:25AM

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So the Tascam DR-60D with the Sennheiser MKE600 is a pretty good combo?

January 11, 2015 at 8:57AM

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Talus McKill
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Yes, I've used the MKE600 with a Fostex DC-R302 ( the DR-60D is pretty much equivalent to this Fostex unit ) for a bunch of indoor interviews last year and was very happy with the results. Just make sure you get proper wind-protection if you plan on using this mic outside.

Guy McLoughlin

January 11, 2015 at 12:54PM

Yes, I've used the MKE600 with a Fostex DC-R302 ( the DR-60D is pretty much equivalent to this Fostex unit ) for a bunch of indoor interviews last year and was very happy with the results. Just make sure you get proper wind-protection if you plan on using this mic outside.

January 13, 2015 at 4:58PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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