March 1, 2016 at 3:51PM

18

Lens recommendation for A7Sii

I know similar questions have been asked but as I couldn't find the exact answer here goes...

I am about to purchase a Sony A7Sii and am not invested in glass. I shoot mostly corporate gigs (interview & b roll) and just need a camera that works for 90% of my stuff. I definitely want to take advantage of IBIS as I shoot handheld b-roll often.

I want a 24-70 lens that I'll rarely have to take off as that covers most of my shooting needs. (I am coming from C100 shooting where a 17-55 was always on the camera and... I can't keep the C100 as it was mine to use as I shot an ongoing TV show... and now production has wrapped therefore I'm buying a new camera and don't really need the FS5 because my clients don't care and I like the ff look a little better you're welcome for the run-on sentence.)

I'm not big on Sony glass as it's pricey, focus by wire and will drop in resale value... because, well... sony. I'm looking at a used Canon 24-70 2.8 l (version 1) as it's relatively cheap (if $1000 buck is cheap), to pair with metabones adapter. Other options include Sigma, Tokina or the newer Canon 24-70 mk ii.

Trying to find recommendations for this setup, but haven't seen much footage or reviews on the combo.

So finally, to the questions. What are your experiences/recommendations. Any gotchas with the IBIS and metabones adapter? Anything you prefer?

15 Comments

Have you thought about the Canon 24-105 f/4? You can find them really cheap used (I'm selling mine with a variable nd filter for like 500 because I upgraded to the 24-70v2 for the speed). Obviously you don't need the speed on the a7sii and it has a perfectly acceptable reach and shallow dof at 105

March 4, 2016 at 6:24PM

0
Reply

Thanks for being the only comment. Wish this board was more active... Any issues with IBIS with your Canon lens?

I hadn't considered the f4 lenses... mainly because there are times when I do shoot with as shallow dof as I can get. And I typically don't need the extra length (beyond 55mm on the C100 cropped sensor)... That said I'm looking into the Sigma 24-70 2.8 as well and the Canon 24-70 mk2. So... I'm jumping between $750 and $1650ish price wise. Not sure if the extra cost is justified. Wish someone with experience with some of these lenses would chime in.

March 5, 2016 at 9:02PM

3
Reply
Lane McCall
Producer/Director
472

I have the Canon 24-70 mk2 now and I have to say, it's very sharp with no CA to be found. I haven't used the sigma but if it's anything like their non-Art primes then there's a lot of CA in those. Just don't get the Tameron 24-70 2.8, it has the zoom and focus rings in the opposite places, I've used it and it drove me insane. I don't have experience with IBIS since I shoot on a 5D, but I know the 24-105 has IS and the 24-70mk2 does not

Josiah Duncan

March 9, 2016 at 11:34AM

Hi Lane -- I'm in the same boat and also searching out more information. Obviously the new GMaster Sony series is out. It's expensive and very few reviews have come back yet for video use. I'm also interested in the Sigma -- especially because their new adapter supposedly passes everything through. I need to have fast, smooth focus. So no answers here but wanted to say you're not alone in that boat.

March 7, 2016 at 3:53PM

0
Reply
Suzi Piker
Owner / Redbird Media Group / Revel + Spark
86

Ps. Re: Sigma and focusing -- this seems to be the nut that needs to be cracked: http://briansmith.com/sigma-mc-11-smart-adapter/

March 7, 2016 at 4:20PM

3
Reply
Suzi Piker
Owner / Redbird Media Group / Revel + Spark
86

Hey Guys,

I know this was from March, but just saw it now because I am also an A7Sii user and looking for insight. Hope we can get a discussion going.. I do mainly Videography & some photography.

I have a Canon 24-70 2.8 ii lens. It's a great lens, but it was 2,000. AND also, I just realized I need to update my Metabones adapter (I have a metabones m2, and need a m3 or m4 to operate successfully on the sony alpha series without glitches) which is another $400. ALSO, I've been trying to figure out this whole 4k vignetting thing... the Canon, since it's an aps-c Vignettes in 4k which I'll need to crop in editing and I expected. However, I'd also like to invest in a pair of primes (1 wide, 1 long) that does not vignette in 4k! I can't seem to figure out what I need that does not vignette without breaking the bank on these Sony lenses.

Thanks for any input, hopefully you guys may have had some positive experiences with lenses since the beginning of this forum.

June 28, 2016 at 12:52PM

0
Reply
scott K
Director
81

Hi,

Recently bought an A7Sii and also looking to invest in glass.

I borrowed a friends EF lenses to get to grips with the camera. Mainly used the 50mm Canon f1.4 attached via Metabones IV adaptor. I'm very happy with the image from the camera. Especially shooting S-log 4K. However I have found a few niggles.

1 - Sometimes I switch on the camera to shoot video and the screen stays black. Switching off and on does tend to fix it.

2 - Sometimes whilst shooting the camera suddenly stops recording and does a weird fast over exposure.

3 - Sometimes once I've set my exposure for a certain environment and switch the camera on after a while it shows as being very under exposed. Switch off and on again often sorts it and reverts back to the well exposed image.

From a bit of research I am thinking it may be the metabones not translating everything perfectly all of the time. Don't get me wrong this is workable as it is, but quite frustrating especially when you need to get recording straight away to catch some action.

I think I need to update the firmware on the metabones. Unfortunately had to give the lenses back so thinking of getting the cheap(£70-100 second hand) Canon 50mm to test more. But I am planning to go in to a Sony store with my camera and do some testing to see if the Sony lenses fix all of these issues.

I'd be interested to see if anyone else has had these issues. Maybe I'm missing something.

Also if anyone has the perfect handheld rig that'd be good to hear about.

Hope this helps.

July 25, 2016 at 6:02AM

0
Reply
Danny
1

Sorry, I have no answers, as I'm in the same boat. I'm looking for a B-cam for my Sony FS7, mostly for interviews but also for B-roll. Am considering Sony a6300 (APS-C, closest to Super35 for DOF), and a7s or a7sII. Big price difference between them. Like all of you, I want to be able to buy EF-mount lenses (future-proofing) and have IS and AF for some run-and-gun situations.
Sure would be nice if someone who owns the a7(x) and Metabones Mark IV would chime in soon....

September 16, 2016 at 3:58PM

0
Reply

You can't use full 5 axis IBIS without native glass.

For canon glass, my go to's are:
Canon 35mm F1.4 L
Canon 100mm Macro F2.8. L
Canon 70-200mm F2.8. L
Sony 16-35mm F4 FF (for use on gimbal which benefits a lot from IBIS)

Note that all lenses have 2 effective focal lengths when using APSC mode. E.g. 35mm = 55mm on APSC or 4K. But you can't APSC in 4K!!!

Good luck!

September 26, 2016 at 7:10AM, Edited September 26, 7:12AM

0
Reply
avatar
Rupert S
filmmaker
67

I shot on the A7S the other day using Rokinon Lenses... Pay attention to those.. they are great!

September 27, 2016 at 10:56PM

2
Reply
avatar
Wentworth Kelly
DP/Colorist/Drone Op
2819

Hey Everyone,
So I went through the torture of trying to find a go to lens for doc work with the A7sII and I landed on the Sigma 24-105mm. Here's a quick pro/con list of the lenses I tried before the Sigma:

Canon 24-105mm f/4- Great cheap lens with IS, but old and not as sharp as the Sigma.
Canon 24-70mm f/2.8- Sharpish but no IS and still expensive.
Sony 24-70mm f/4- Native and all the benefits of IS but terrible focusing ability in manual and expensive.
Sony 24-70mm f/2.8- Native and fast but no IS and expensive.
Sony 28-135mm f/4- Native cine zoom but not sharp and really expensive.

The Sigma is heavier than the Canon f/4 and not as sharp Sony 24-70mm f/2.8.
But, the IS works well, manual focus ring feels nice in your hand and the lens costs $900 ($1100 with the adapter). Sigma wins IMO and I've been very happy with the results. I wouldn't use this lens on a gimbal but you'll be fine for all tripod and handheld work. Also, get the lens adapter and the dock so you can update the firmware on the lens itself.

November 17, 2016 at 12:43PM

0
Reply
Eddie Schneckloty
Editor/Videographer
13

Awesome post and comments! Thank you, Lane and Eddie. Your question and answer were exactly what I was looking for. Similarly, I do a lot of handheld video work, so I'm excited to invest in a Sony A7Sii and take advantage of any lenses that will work with the 5-axis IBIS.

Jeff Underwood

December 20, 2016 at 8:06AM

Thanks for all the detailed notes, Eddie! This is exactly the info I've been looking for so I can upgrade my DSLR for higher quality video. I saw an earlier comment by Rupert S saying that, "You can't use full 5 axis IBIS without native glass." Can you comment on that? When I called B&H, the rep said that any lens would work with the A7Sii's IBIS. Also, can you elaborate on what you mean by the "lens adapter and dock" you recommended buying? B&H sells the Sigma 24-105mm lens with a Sony A lens mount, so I want to make sure I understand what you were referring with by "lens adapter and dock." Thank you!

Jeff Underwood

January 24, 2017 at 8:24PM

If you can Get some Rokinon E-Mount then that would be really cool... I Shot a music video with the A7S with the 50mm and 85mm Prime along with the BMPCC With Sigma 19mm, Voitlanger 17mm and i think a 28mm Voitlanger as well. The Rokinon was so freaking sharp even in SLOG2 on my Computer Screen... i was amazed and the clarity was also astounding so The Rokinon wold be my Pick.

December 21, 2016 at 11:20PM

0
Reply
avatar
Wentworth Kelly
DP/Colorist/Drone Op
2819

Lane - how did you get on with your quest for A7Sii lenses? Have you had a chance to try any out yet/bought any?

February 25, 2017 at 9:17AM

1
Reply
Steve K
DP | Director | Aerial Ops
1

Your Comment