August 5, 2015 at 11:50AM

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Upgrading my editing gear

Hello there!

I mainly edit and grade music videos, commercials and on some rare occasions a few short films.

For a while I've been thinking about getting some more gear for my editing workstation. At the moment, it's very basic and I've invested in a good computer, a color correction monitor, broadcast monitor and a few external hard drives. In a couple of projects, I've experienced crashes on my HDDs, slow workflow and minor distance problems. I thought I'd get some input from experienced editors.

First of all, I've been looking at getting a RAID setup. This is the one I'm thinking of buying https://www.dustinhome.no/product/50...x-ib-rd3640su3. What I noticed is that it doesn't have a FireWire output, but it does have a USB 3.0. My question is if it's possible to run four HDDs through the RAID box and to my computer through one outlet. To me, inexperienced as I am, it sounds like it might just burn the USB 3.0 input in my computer. I also do not have any FireWire inputs on my computer, but there is a version of the same RAID that allows you to connect through FireWire, which sounds a little more stable to me, and I was thinking that I can just buy a FireWire port and I install it, but I'm not sure if my motherboard supports it. This is my motherboard https://www.inet.se/files/pdf/1902437_0.pdf.
However, if the USB 3.0 connection is good and stable, I'll go with that.

Second, I've seen many people recommend getting a Matrox Mx02 Mini. I've failed to see the point of it. When I was still in school, I had access to workstations with pretty much everything I have now, only it also the Matrox Mx02 Mini, and to me, there is no difference in my workflow now. This might sound really stupid, but I don't really see the point of getting one. It's been a while since I produced something for TV broadcast, is that where the Matrox comes in handy? As you can tell I'm clueless.

Another problem I've had is transfering material. I live in Norway, and when the client is close to me, it has never been a problem. They either send me HDDs or I go get them with footage on it, and I just set it up at home. However, I've been working with a few american clients and that's when I've had problems. If you're lucky, it takes around two weeks to ship something from USA to Norway, and more often than not, it's too late for the HDD to arrive. I've tried using DropBox and similar software, but for transfering large quantities of HD footage, they just don't cut it. Sometimes I've received around 500-700 GB of footage and that can take WEEKS to transfer over DropBox. I've also used FTPs, but I'm still experiencing the same problems. Is there any other way that is more effective that I can use?

I'd be very happy if someone could give me some advice.

Thank you in advance!

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So even FEDEX takes 2 weeks to ship from USA to Norway ?

I had always thought that FEDEX can get a package almost anywhere in a few days.

August 6, 2015 at 6:14AM

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Guy McLoughlin
Video Producer
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It can be quick enough getting it from USA to Norway (Never quicker than 5-6 days though), but it usually gets stuck for quite some time in the customs. I live only 30 minutes away from Oslo, and sometimes the HDDs stay at the customs for a week or more. Even if it has been shipped from Sweden or another country nearby. Pretty annoying.

Daniel Jek

August 6, 2015 at 8:19AM

I'm waiting on lenses from Lugansk and sundries from China. Patience is required.

Julian Richards

August 10, 2015 at 3:22AM

first of all how large is the array?
if it's below 2tb i would suggest another solution.

USB3.0 does about 500+ r/w MAX.

A mechanical drive is about 100+ read 75-80 write.
if you raid them at raid 0, you would get about 300 write, 350 read.
which is not a good idea.
you would most likely have a redundant drive, and your speed would be about 200+ write, 280+ read.

a single SATA III, SSDdrive by samsung. The 850 evo/pro pro does 500+ r/w. They only go up to 2tb. per single drive.
It is a lot smaller and a lot faster for roughly the same price. You are limited to 2tb max.

its a balance striking game between, speed, size , cost and reliability.

For a portable solution on a laptop, i run a USB3.0 enclosure with a samsung 840pro (previous model) 1TB. it's usually enough for something im trying to do mobile. I get 500 write 550+ read and is fast enough to playback 5k 60fps at 1/2 res.

For a desktop solution. Im running a sonnet SAS 8 drive configuration which is a lot bigger and expensive. I get about 700 write almost 1gb/s read. It does playback 6k 60ps at full res when paired with the Titan X.
Also there is one spare drive built in for redundancy so I feel safer at heart working on the drive.

August 8, 2015 at 9:11AM

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Kazu Okuda
Filmmaker
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I'd have a look at a Thunderbolt solution for your computer, the ASUS ThunderboltEX II/DUAL is less than 100$ and will open you up to serious RAID solutions. I run a Pegasus R8 via thunderbolt and have edited up to 8k at full res with no lag (though it was a simple time line) I was rather impressed. Don't forget how much more secure a RAID system is when it's a config RAID 5. USB 3 is ok for most things but it really pales next to a thunderbolt RAID system.
Happy hunting!

August 9, 2015 at 8:24AM

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James Coote
Director of Photography
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Awesome, this is why I turn to more experienced people. Thanks a lot guys!

August 10, 2015 at 4:11PM, Edited August 10, 4:11PM

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Daniel Jek
Editor/Colorist
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