November 24, 2013

Looking for a More Affordable Pro Wireless Follow Focus? Redrock microRemote Could Be Your Solution

It's a long time coming, but the Redrock microRemote wireless follow focus is finally shipping. We first took a look at it during NAB 2011, and then again at NAB 2012, but it's finally in stock and available to purchase. Tom Gleeson of the Australian Cinematographers Society recently took the Redrock microRemote for a spin, and he gives his impressions working with the device in the video below which also features Mike Seymour of fxguide/fxphd.

It's important to remember before going further that affordable is a relative term, but when you consider that Preston systems, arguably the best out there, can go all the way up to $30,000, it definitely puts it into perspective:

This was posted this in the comments on Vimeo:

A situation you need to be careful with this system is running off set with the hand controller then running back just before the take as you will find the hand controller has lost radio connection and needs time to handshake back to the receiver. Problem being nobody wants to wait while this happens. Best to leave the hand controller near the camera so its ready to roll at any moment.

As far as wireless follow focuses go, something that often separates the cheap ones from the more robust professional configurations is lag and the performance of the motor. The less expensive wireless systems tend to have very loud motors, which can be obnoxious if you're in a quiet environment. They also may not have any calibration at all with your lenses, which could lead to forcing the motor to go farther than it really needs to or spinning more than they need to on lenses that don't have hard stops.

I haven't used the Preston before, but I've used the Bartech system, and it was as rock-solid as could be, with great range, and automatic calibration whenever power was lost. The Bartech though is a few thousand more expensive than the Redrock, but it really depends what your needs are. If you have a little time to fiddle with the Redrock (which really isn't that much at about 30 seconds), it could certainly be worth saving the money and getting that system, especially since lag is non-existent (which was the case when I messed with it a year and a half ago).

If you want to see a little bit of the iPhone attachment (which I've read is not out yet because the app has not yet been approved), here's our video from 2012. Skip ahead to 3:24 to check out the microRemote:

To get a complete system with the handheld wireless controller, the Redrock starts around $2,500, but you'll probably need a few more accessories to get it working, which is where the $3,000 number comes from. If you just want it with the finger wheel control, it starts under $2,000. There really isn't anything else like it currently on the market in this price range -- definitely not something with motors that are this quiet -- so if you are an owner/operator and you need something that won't completely break the bank, the microRemote looks like a great solution.

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huehuehue

there goes the 'affordable' word again :)))

November 24, 2013 at 5:18PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Tyler

November 24, 2013 at 5:22PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Tyler

I would consider the Redrock a pro wireless follow focus. While I appreciate what the Kickstarter is doing, you get what you pay for. If you don't need a wireless follow focus very often, by all means don't spend a lot of money on it. But if you need it working day in and day out without fuss, there's just nothing else out there right now that will take a beating and actually compares to the high-end units used on big sets.

November 24, 2013 at 5:31PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Joe Marine
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Keep in mind this is "no film school" and not a rental house catalog.

November 24, 2013 at 6:27PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Tyler

No Film School doesn't mean no budget ever. And, like I've said a million times, just because YOU can't afford it, does not mean you will never use it, or be on set with one, or be in a position to be recommending it to someone to buy.

Aren't you still in high school though? I couldn't afford anything in high school either, and that's why we still cover dirt cheap stuff, which we also get shit about.

November 24, 2013 at 6:43PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Joe Marine
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I'm so sick of this fucking comment. This blog is for everything filmmaking related. Just because some people have come to believe it's only here to support filmmakers that can't afford anything over $200 doesn't mean it is. Just read the blog and shut the fuck up.

November 25, 2013 at 8:31PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Adam

Respectfully disagree, this system can't not take a beating in my experience. I would never rent it out or even lend it to a friend in a pinch. Just too unreliable.

November 25, 2013 at 12:23AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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PhilP

please stop...3000$ is nothing when you talking about wireless focus units.Go ahead google Arri prices

November 26, 2013 at 11:22AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Kemalettin

Nothing is affordable in the filmmaking world. You want something good, you gotta pay for the price.

November 24, 2013 at 5:35PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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James

I have the full Redrock Wireless System along with the finger controller. Great when it's working but It has broken down on 75% of the few shoots I have used it on(not that many). I have sent it back 3 times in a year since a I purchased. NOT recommended.

November 24, 2013 at 5:56PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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PhilP

Could you please elaborate? What broke down / how did it malfunction? I've heard plenty of horror stories about the RedRock system, but also some good stuff, and it really is almost the only available fully featured option in this price range... Really on the fence with this one.

November 24, 2013 at 6:12PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Davíð

Nearly every piece on the system has malfunctioned at one point on a shoot. From the motor, to the receiver, etc. To be fair, Red Rock took it back and try to fix. But when I got back basically something else would break. It's too bad, the thumbwheel is such a great innovation.

November 25, 2013 at 12:19AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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PhilP

There's an affordable wireless follow focus doing reasonably well on kickstarter:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1608311032/lenzhound-wireless-lens-m...

November 24, 2013 at 6:26PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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henryjfinch

This thing is cheap and you can tell through the guy's voice how unconfident he is in this system professionally. I use a Bartech which is bullet proof and and pull any lens in existence. Its a good rinky-dink item for consumers.

November 24, 2013 at 6:47PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Quaid

Actually there's an idea - I totally forgot about Bartech.

What if you guys did an article comparing the Preston, Bartech and Redrock systems? A proper breakdown of the vulnerabilities of each and the advantages - because honestly accessibility is an issue for those of us who want to test or get one of our own. I know Preston's superior because it damn well better be considering it's 30 grand, but if Redrock or Bartech'll work... I dunno, with the testimonial above that the Redrock'll break down 75% of the time... Some more background would be nice.

November 24, 2013 at 7:50PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Veronica

Bartech is rock solid. You can stress it on any set and it'll keep working. But that thing is expensive. More like a rental for steadicam rigs or a crane... But nonetheless a great device.

November 24, 2013 at 7:59PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Alex Mand

Agree on BarTech. It's a simple, quality, and it works. Much better than Redrock.

November 25, 2013 at 12:21AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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PhilP

I don't think Preston should even be in the equation or the conversation. That's a whole different level. There are options in the under $10,000 range...but in the under $4000 range not much.

November 25, 2013 at 4:22AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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PhilP

The Bar-tech is ok at best. It's noisy for starters and the receiver is huge. Preston and C-Motion have always been the way to go. I like how the focus knob is adjustable on the cmotion.

November 24, 2013 at 8:24PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Lee

I've owned my microRemote for a few months now and have been very happy with it. A great solution for owner/operators like myself.

November 24, 2013 at 10:59PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Stay away from this unit, it's terrible. I've had the misfortune of having to use it a couple times now. Bad motor, steps on small pulls. The unit frequently drops calibration. The signal is weak and doors my carry far at all. I've had the signal just drop randomly when only a couple feet away. Same experience over multiple units. It's just a poorly built device. You get exactly what you pay for. I 100% would never bring this on a paid job if I wasn't forced to use it by owner/operators. A bartech is only marginally more and is so much better.

November 24, 2013 at 11:04PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Michael

Agreed. Buy cheap, buy twice. And it really isn't that cheap, just save more money or look at other options over RedRock. Can't wait to get rid of it once I get it back from warranty repair yet again.

November 25, 2013 at 4:19AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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PhilP

Michael,

I'm sorry to hear about your experience with the microRemote! Regarding your connection issues, it sounds like you may have been on a busy channel for your area (there are 16 available for your choosing).

Recently though we've upgraded the wireless components of the microRemote, giving it a 1500 m (1 mile) line-of-sight range. The range is impressive, but what's more impressive now is its sheer penetrating power. I've personally used the microRemote through a 2 1/2 foot concrete wall and it worked great.

You may also want to check out the microGain settings of the microRemote, which allows you to finesse the power of the Torque motor for each users preference and would have addressed your stepping issue.

Loren Simons
Redrock Micro

November 25, 2013 at 12:32PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Loren Simons

Does anyone here know anything about the Heden Carat? It seems to be a fully featured follow focus system from this respected focus-motor manufacturer, and costs 2990$ according to their website (on-sale price):

http://www.heden-engineering.com/ (third "slide" on the front page).

This is about the same as the redrock, but the unit has a very low internet profile, and their own page isn't even much help.

Anyone?

November 24, 2013 at 11:26PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Davíð

Looked up Hedén's Website. Low profile indeed. Hedén apparently invented this lens remote control stuff. Got two Oscars, worked for Hasselblad before. Wow! And I never heard of him.

November 25, 2013 at 2:16AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Thyl Engelhardt

My good buddy and fellow 1st AC got a chance to play with it and had nothing but good things to say. He compared it quality wise directly to the bartech or Axis-one

November 25, 2013 at 12:39PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Michael Solomon

Note: it's not $3k...it's €3000, which is about $4000 Still cheaper than a Bartech. Heden motors are well known, I didn't know they had their own controller/receiver. I'm interested is trying it out.

December 9, 2013 at 7:13PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Daniel Mimura

Let buy my 60D/7D/5D first

November 24, 2013 at 11:53PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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They should focus their resources on the already announced electronic view finder, imho. That would be a compact and unique solution for smaller cameras.

November 25, 2013 at 2:08AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Thyl Engelhardt

IMO not worth it...$3000 is still not affordable to most people. I always rent these and I've thought about owning one as I would use it quite often but the only downfall is having stills lenses. Cinema lenses are very expensive even for Compact Primes or Canons and that's the only way I could properly use a wireless focus as the stops are much easier to grab focus. Working with stills lenses are nightmares for focusing especially on a 5D or a full frame sensor. The Preston isn'y cheap to rent but it's worth every penny when you need it.

November 25, 2013 at 2:55AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Brad Watts

Brad,

Actually, the nice thing about the microRemote is that you can manually calibrate your lens as well, so you can still use lenses that do not have hard stops like the L-Series. What is even nicer is that no matter what lens you calibrate, however short or long the throw may be, the microRemote will map it to the 270 degree rotation of the controller hand wheel.

So your 16-35mm lens that only has 60 degrees of rotation? Calibrate it and the microRemote will digitally expand it to 270 degrees, making it much easier to pull focus and set marks.

Loren Simons
Redrock Micro

November 26, 2013 at 11:44AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Loren Simons

Good. Fast. Cheap. Pick two.

If it's a paying job, go rent a preston for 200 a day. The savings on renting a bartech are not worth it. Manually having to set lens limits is a huge pain in the ass, especially if you're doing rapid lens switches on a location. We just finished a shoot where we swapped from the bartech to a preston, and my god was it better. If you can, just rent. If not, buy quality, or pay the price in wasted time.

November 25, 2013 at 9:15AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Thom

My point exactly!

November 25, 2013 at 3:55PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Lee

I hate hearing people bitch and whine about having to calibrate when they're not the ones that have to buy it. Every Steadicam op is expected to buy their own gear...(there are a few newer ops who don't own them and I think it's generally pretty shifty for most of them to offer a low rate and then spring on production that they don't own their own, so they have to rent them). So basically anyone who doesn't have the money for a Preston has to make do with a Bartech.

If AC's ever bitch, I tell 'em to bring their own Preston. So far it hasn't happened. In LA, yeah, but where I live I don't know any AC's with Preston's. (one plans on getting one) Sure, if production is willing to pay, go for it.

Or just do the job and calibrate it. It takes like 1 minute. Yeah, you'd probably prefer a Preston... And I'd prefer to be shooting 35mm...but we don't all get the luxury.

December 9, 2013 at 7:27PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Daniel Mimura

Did anybody try the HEDEN or Hocu Focus AXIS1 models? The very little feedback online seem very positive. The HEDEN is priced closely to the Redrock one and even though it's more expensive, the AXIS1 is still much cheaper than a Preston kit.

Considering the bad comments on the Redrock remote here and elsewhere and the disappointing quality of the Redrock gear I own... no thanks.

November 25, 2013 at 9:36AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Haroun Souirji

Friends of friends have developed an "actual" wireless follow focus and its up on kickstarter. Take a look.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1608311032/lenzhound-wireless-lens-m...

November 25, 2013 at 11:01AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Jason

Meant to say "actual" budget* system.

November 25, 2013 at 11:49AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Jason

I've used the Redrock a handful of times when they first started coming out and had troubles with them at least once on every shoot. My friend just recently got one for himself though and says his works great. I don't know if they've changed something or not. I want to do some side by side tests with an older one and a my friends new one to see if they actually are more reliable.

If I were spending my money though and had some time, I'd just look around and try to pick up a used Bartech. They go for around the same price, maybe a little bit more.

November 25, 2013 at 11:31AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Jake

Used Bartech's are still pricey. I got one and paid over $4k..,& I had been waiting for at least 6 months trying to find one. They aren't super available. I would buy a new one if I had to do it again. (I may, actually...having a second one for iris pulls. They have a digital Bartech now.

December 9, 2013 at 7:31PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Daniel Mimura

Jake,

I actually just posted a comment regarding this. We have upgraded the wireless components in the microRemote since its release. The new chip gives it a 1500m (1 mile) line-of-site range, and a lot of penetrating power to go through walls and such. The sheer power of the new components pretty much makes interference and signal drops a thing of the past!

If you own a microRemote and are having connection problems, contact support@redrockmicro.com and they will get you straightened out.

Loren Simons
Redrock Micro

November 25, 2013 at 12:44PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Loren Simons

Well the consensus from the guys that have actually used it suggest's this isnt worth the money or time but boom nofilmschool straight in there with a recommendation. Happening a lot lately.

Anyway, anyone have much use with the Hocus system http://www.hocusproducts.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&produ...

I'm sure the underwater realm guys was using it under water with a little extender for the receiver that they floated on the waters surface. £1500 is a lot but that's like a premium 70-200 so within the realm of most of us (ish)

November 25, 2013 at 1:00PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Anthony Brown

Anthony,

We've had plenty of happy customers using the microRemote on a daily basis, including the MoVi team (See Behind the Scenes such as recent Allan Gray Commercial: https://vimeo.com/77006519 ).

Most of the early negative experiences had to do with interference and range limitations, which as I mentioned above has been addressed with new wireless components shipping standard in the system.

With an all digital system like the microRemote, you get features like automatic lens calibration, lens mapping, camera triggering, and compatibility with other 3rd Party digital motors like Preston and Heden, all for $2600.

Loren Simons
Redrock Micro

November 25, 2013 at 1:32PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Loren Simons

But not the R&D to deliver a satisfactory product in the first place? Sorry Lorne, I'm sure it's better now but the Hocus system seems more reliable and that's all I'm really interested in with a system I may purchase myself, these are usually rented in and I film saying to a producer that its cool I have my own and then your reliability issues blow the Stedicam or Movi shots we have scheduled, not only will I look a fool but I won't trust the product and neither will anyone else and it's not cheap enough to be an eBay paper weight.

November 26, 2013 at 10:16AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Anthony Brown

So this is affordable is it?
We're indie shooters, I thought this site catered for us.

$3000 can be spent on far better things when scraping the cash together for a film.

November 25, 2013 at 2:33PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Fresno Bob

Read carefully...

November 25, 2013 at 2:59PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Joe Marine
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The site is called "No Film School" not "Wanna Be No Budget DSLR Shooters"

November 25, 2013 at 3:59PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Lee

No Film School Implying;

School
New comers to film
Inexperienced
Students
Not much money

November 25, 2013 at 11:50PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Tyler

Tyler, please tell us what it was about whatever film you saw that led you to believe that filmmaking was going to be or should be an inexpensive endeavor? You can only cut so many corners.

Something deemed affordable doesn't necessarily mean EVERYONE can afford it and it's always relative to something else. In this case, (among other things) it's affordable compared to paying 10 times as much for the top-of-the-line unit. Even if it only cost $1,000, there'd be plenty of people who could't afford that, either. If you can't afford it, stop whining and stick with the human powered variations.

I don't understand people who only want to be shown how to make movies with trash bags, a couple of PVC pipes and Christmas lights. If you ever want to grow in this business you need to be aware of all the available tools out there, whether you can afford them at the moment or not.

November 26, 2013 at 1:29PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Brian

I look at it another way...since film school is hella pricey (tuition is up exponentially from when I went in the mid-'90's too...), if u don't go to film school, look how much money you have for all the gear! $3k, $5k for wireless FF? Ain't no thing!

December 9, 2013 at 7:40PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Daniel Mimura

I personally was pretty impressed with the Red Rock system. My 1st just used it on a recent music video shoot pulling ZF primes and a fuji cabrio. I was quite surprised by how reliable the system was. Main complaint is having to re-calibrate after a power loss. But calibration is quick and easy. Range and reliability were generally good. Worked much better than the analog bartech we had out the weekend before.

I don't get people's anger in these comments. NFS is posting a review by a third party site that frankly is rather old at this point. If you have anything to be upset about, be annoyed that the news is late and not that you can't afford the product here. NFS isn't all things to all people. Pick and choose what you want to read and learn more about people!

November 25, 2013 at 4:20PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Got this delivered with an Epic rental package in LA. Disaster - totally unusable. Had to send for a different FF to replace it. The motor wouldn't kick in before the wheel was turned a substantial amount. Precision adjustments were impossible this way.

November 25, 2013 at 9:10PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Steve

Steve,

I believe I received a call from that rental house. It sounds like someone turned the microGain setting all the way down to 1, which basically supplies less power to the motor and would cause what you described. Simply turning the microGain up addressed their issue.

For anyone curious, the microRemote Manual is posted on our website, and microGain instructions can be seen on page 16.

http://store.redrockmicro.com/start/assembly_docs/microRemote/microRemot...

Loren Simons
Redrock Micro

November 26, 2013 at 12:02PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Loren Simons

Interesting this article should show up now. I just about bought one of these a bit ago. I love the idea of a remote follow focus. I just seems they are so expensive. I kept a eye on the Red Rock Microremote thinking I would get one when I had the money. I visited the Red Rock site several times, but as I researched it I became less impressed.

Many promised dates came and went and finally just change to "Available Soon" for several components. I found that even if you buy a bundle (the only way to get one right now) cables aren't included. There is no mention of a warranty (1 year, 30 days, 10 seconds? None I could find, but I'm sure they're "good for it", right?) The add on follow focus style wired controller disappeared from the site after being labeled "Available Soon". A universal fingerwheel was added, but seems overpriced compared to the the other fingerwheel for red rock rigs ($150 vs $250). Ok I guess.

Even then I was going to get one. I threw it in the cart and pulled out my credit card and started through the painful checkout process (create an account, K now give us your address, K now shipping, K now payment, and then terms and conditions.) Glad I read that last one, terms and conditions. I decided to see what I was agreeing to. It read something like:

We will gladly take your money NOW. We will then go try to find the materials to build your order. We'll get it to you sometime, but markets fluctuate and we don't know when, just hang in there. There is a URL labeled lead times,(it doesn't work). Oh, and no returns, we like having your money, hope you don't miss it while your waiting for your product. We'll get it to you, eventually.

And that's when I stopped, and thought, and put my card away (for those that know me, not an easy or frequently done thing.) Now I read about jumping focus motors, losing sync, and overall dissatisfaction with the product. Great that I can focus from a mile away through a 2 ft block wall now that wireless components are upgraded. Pretty sure I just want to focus while standing 3ft from the camera, EVERY TIME.

My hope right now is that Kessler will make something like the microremote using their CineDrive know-how and tech so that it works. I'm quite happy with them, Zacuto, and other companies that take care of customers instead of just putting "Available soon - so give us your money" on a website. Hell, Zacuto even made videos of the ZfinderEVF during the process and was only few weeks over time budget when it was completed and started shipping. The microEVF on Red Rock's site was updated in May, wait for it, 2011.

In the meantime I guess I'll keep looking. Sorry for the long ramble...

November 25, 2013 at 11:14PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Dave H

Agree 100% no one buys $3000 system to work on $100 mil movies, for that you rising a proven battle ready system like ARRi's or the Preston. I'd own this for paid AC work with Stedicam ops, for my AC on one of my shoots when going handheld, on a curved dolly track or a jib and crane shot. 99% of the time I or my AC will be right next to the camera and all I would be looking for is an easy swap out of the marking disc (for multiple lenses) and 100% reliability.

November 26, 2013 at 10:34AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Anthony Brown

Dave,

I just wanted to point out a few things about your post.

1. We do not charge any order until they are ready to ship. If there is a lead time of say 30 Days on a product and you place your order, you are essentially holding a place in line and reserving a system. The day the system is ready to ship, we charge your card. You can cancel anytime between order placement and the products shipping.

2. I too was in love with the idea of the follow focus emulator, we just had to put our resources elsewhere for the time being. We basically just need to prioritize what cool stuff we build first.

3. We build and machine everything in Texas ourselves, so when products are so well received like the microRemote is, that usually result in lead times.

4. Redrock Electronics come with a 1 Year Warranty, which is pretty standard across most companies. However, all of our hardware (cages, rails, etc) carries a Lifetime Warranty and we are always willing to work with our customers. We stand behind our gear, and literally everyone involved in the company is a filmmaker so we know how vital our gear can be on set, as well as our service.

Loren Simons
Redrock Micro

November 26, 2013 at 11:58AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Loren Simons

Have tests for my unit on a MOVI tomorrow as it happens. Will report back if there are significant issues, but as Loren has addressed all the issues raised here on the site, I feel confident. To date, I think for the price the build quality is excellent.

As to, this is not suitable NFS article. Well I love NFS, spend a lot of time on here, and lo and behold just bought this very item. It's ludicrously simple, if you don't want to read about something, DON'T. There's a wide range of very valuable and differing material presented on NFS at an impressive speed.

Wish mods would just ban these nonsense posts on sight.

November 26, 2013 at 9:52AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Lliam Worthington

We used this on a short I directed a few weeks ago and I'm afraid that I can't recommend it. It was great at first, but then it stopped working properly for about an hour and almost ruined the entire film (it's a single shot film so there was no other coverage we could rely on or anything like that). We got it working again in the end, and apparently RedRock were good in getting it fixed afterwards, but it was not a good experience for me.

November 26, 2013 at 7:27PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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I invite you guys to take a look at my open source wireless follow focus.
It uses a quiet and accurate stepper motor, has lens calibration built into it, and can be programmed to go from A to B focal points at the desired speed. I'm working on 3D printing its enclosure and plan to offer as a kit or a complete product - and it should be *really* affordable (...) since it is open source. If you guys are interested it may help me make the last steps. This is a video of the 1st version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXpLIT_GN6Q&feature=c4-overview&list=UU7d...
And here is my blog detailing the process: http://adisoffer.tumblr.com/

November 30, 2013 at 1:01AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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I used the Redrocks Micro on a friend's Movi, and it was quick, quiet and accurate. I was actually impressed b/c I had been skeptical.

He just had L-glass, not movie glass, so I'm curious how the redrock will work in the cold on a cine lens. (I live pretty far north.)

I have a Bartech with an M-One motor (one of the 2 torqueiest motors out there---that and one of the Heydens). Just last week we were out shooting with CP.2's in 32°F weather. I shoot in the cold pretty often and I had never met a lens I couldn't pull with my setup, but it happened. One of the lenses would pull off b/c the lenses were just too stiff from the cold. (One of the lenses was always stiffer than the other ones, and on the cold day, that was the one that I had to crank down extra hard---it wound up working, but it took some time optimizing the way the arm was oriented to keep it on there...anyway, the motor held up.

I know redrock upgraded their motors from a couple years ago, but that's tough. An epic, CP.2, and Bartech is gonna be too heavy for a Movi (perhaps making some custom long cable would allow you to mount the receiver somewhere like a backpack). The lightweight makes the redrock the only contender for certain things right now thou, I have to say.

Has anyone had experience pulling cine lenses in the cold with this?

December 9, 2013 at 8:05PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Daniel Mimura

Daniel,

Glad to hear you liked the remote. While I haven't used our motors in freezing conditions (gee it's nice to be in Los Angeles), I can say that I have used it with Canon Cinema Primes under cold conditions and it works great still.

The microRemote is actually compatible with other digital motors like the Heden 26VE and M-One Digital Motor by Palomar, so you can always use those motors with our system if you want (you literally just unplug our motor and plug in another motor using the same cable as ours, super simple).

The rest of our system is also very light, so you'll shed some weight by using the microRemote regardless.

Loren Simons
Redrock Micro

December 11, 2013 at 7:13PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Loren Simons

Affordable? Are you kidding?
I'd rather go for a wired ff, for example, KeyEasyFocus 2017 is quite all right for its price - $314. Copes with the same task and 6 times cheaper!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkR-NJpFKxA
good solutions for a low budget video

April 21, 2017 at 8:44AM, Edited April 21, 8:44AM

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