November 5, 2013

Nikon Df: New Full-Frame DSLR Brings Back Manual Dials & Axes Video. Where's Our Cinema Version?

Today was the unveiling of the not-so-secret Nikon Df (digital fusion) DSLR. While many are calling the design "retro," Nikon has really gone back to what made shooting photos easier: physical dials. Not everyone is pleased, but the goal for the company was to make a product that attempted to remove the barrier between the photographer and the photography, something that film cameras arguably did by being simple mechanical devices. As a part of the strategy, however, Nikon has also gone against the grain and removed all video features from the camera. But if a Japanese camera company is willing to release a 'fusion' photography camera, where's the 'fusion' digital cinema camera?

Here is a hands-on with Engadget:

The camera is going to come in two versions, the silver above, which closely matches the current style of retro cameras, and a more understated black version:

  • 16.2MP Full-frame Sensor
  • EXPEED 3 Image Processor
  • 3.2" 921k-Dot LCD Monitor
  • Optical Glass Pentaprism Viewfinder
  • Still Image Only Camera with JPEG, RAW, TIFF
  • Mechanical Exposure Control Dials
  • Multi-CAM 4800 AF Sensor with 39 Points
  • ISO 100-12,800 (Expandable to 50-204800)
  • 5.5 fps Continuous
  • Rugged Magnesium Alloy Body
  • SD Card Slot
  • Available Late November
  • Price: $2750 Body Only, $3,000 with 50mm 1.8 Lens

There are some who will inevitably cry hipster foul at a camera styled in this way (side note: I despise that word and most people who use it), but the Nikon 1, not this camera, is really the fashion accessory from the company, with its tiny point-and-shoot sensor. This Df camera actually features the same 16MP full-frame sensor found in the twice as expensive flagship D4. Image quality was the priority for this model, and by putting the flagship sensor in their smallest full-frame body, they are reinforcing that idea. It is also capable of metering with nearly every Nikon F mount lens ever made, though manual focusing would still be easier with a split circle viewfinder screen.

Nikon's marketing campaign was pretty fantastic in my opinion, producing videos that had a texture perfectly matching the product they were making. Here are just two of the teaser videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy_5ypybtX8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_LV7qRCJyA

And here is the final video, a compilation of the first 5:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUu9fPzicBo

So what's so special about a still photography camera that has removed video -- a feature that started the DSLR revolution and gave us more cinematic images than we could have ever dreamed of for the price? Well, it's the dials:

Nikon Df Top Silver

While the camera can still be controlled from the menus, Nikon has followed the lead of companies like Fuji and has brought back physical dials to control major functions of the camera. Practically everything can be controlled just from the top dials, but if you want finer increments of shutter speed, you'll have to choose the 1/3 Step mode on the shutter dial.

Many will balk at the fact that the camera doesn't even contain a rudimentary video mode, but the video on the D4 was actually nothing special, and probably some of the softest and ugliest of the newer generation of cameras. Rather than releasing a product with a feature that doesn't even come close to the competition, they've completely axed it in favor of simplifying the picture-taking process. I think the design is a smart move in theory, though not having held the camera, I have no idea how well it will work in practice. While you could argue that true purist photography would involve giant view cameras and wet-plate printing, this is really a combination of a more traditional 35mm still camera and digital technology, which allows the camera to reach the insanely high-ISO of over 204,800 just like the bigger D4 brother.

What This Means for DSLRs

If you're a huge fan of video on DSLRs, this camera is proof that all of these Japanese companies begrudgingly added video. This kind of body was never meant to shoot video, and to add video features has meant changing some things around, and putting more options in the way of still photographers. Even though many photographers have welcomed the change and have begun adding video to their arsenal, the low entry price for more cinematic looking images and interchangeable lenses is one of last reasons that DSLRs are still a choice to shoot a project that only requires video (small size might be another, but we're seeing cameras like the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera take care of that).

I think we're going to continue getting the same kind of video on DSLRs for years to come, and for the companies moving out of the DSLR space like Sony, and those who are only in the mirrorless space like Panasonic, the more video-centric products with higher quality will be in a specific and more expensive product category, so as not to upset the higher margin "video" cameras. Video has been an afterthought for most of these companies, and the Nikon Df perfectly explains why. To them, video has been a distraction that added a little bit of value, and got you in the door to buy more expensive cameras that do better video. I really like what Nikon is trying to do, but much of the reason they are doing it is because DSLR sales are in the toilet thanks to smartphones -- devices which are always on you and take good enough, or even excellent, photos.

Where's Our Affordable 'Digital Fusion' Cinema Camera?

I am perfectly fine with separating photography and video on certain devices, especially as you're probably hurting one to make the other one better, but for some reason the idea of a camera with a higher recording format (like RAW) and easier manual controls has not quite made its way down to affordability. Cameras like the ARRI ALEXA have arguably already done what I and many others have asked for, but it's not something most people can own, and certainly not something you're going to take with you for fun. The only two companies doing anything similar to this at an affordable price are Blackmagic and Digital Bolex.

While Blackmagic has the price and capabilities down pat, it's form factor mixed with the touch screen-only interface mean you've got to dig into a menu to do anything -- which is fine if you're shooting very controlled, but once things speed up and time is of the essence, it can really get in the way. Digital Bolex is probably the closest to a fusion camera that exists right now at an affordable price, but it has its own quirks that won't be perfect for every situation, including a sensor that needs a bit more light to really shine. There is also the fact that the team knows it can only make a certain amount of cameras, so you're probably not going to be picking this up at Amazon or B&H anytime soon.

I've talked about camera design quite a bit it seems, but it's because anything with a 35mm sensor under $10,000 is still being made with the mindset that something has to be small and portable and then rigged up when you need to get serious. Shooting with older Arri film cameras is about as simple as it gets, and aside from the process of loading film, it's about the closest you can get to making the camera an extension of your mind. Get your exposure reading and you're good to go.

I am a huge fan of what companies like Blackmagic, Digital Bolex, and the small open source startup Apertus are doing, but none have quite gotten perfect recording formats, sensor size, body size, and ease of use. I've never been a huge fan of shooting video on DSLRs. Every time I do I am reminded that functions I need are not where I need them. I like shooting on RED, but getting through their menu system is a legitimate nightmare. Only ARRI might finally be introducing the lower-budget camera I'm asking for in the AMIRA, but it's still going to be well outside of affordable for most.

If You Want Ease of Use and Image Quality, It's Going to Cost You

That's more or less the conclusion I get from the release of the Nikon Df. At $2,750 for the body and $3,00o with a 50mm 1.8 (which is styled like the camera but essentially the same lens as the cheap 50mm), the Df is a statement that good image quality and ease of use are still going to cost you. The same can be said for digital cinema, where the cameras with the most functionality that are still easy to use also happen to be the most expensive. Someday this may change (maybe when we're all shooting 8K video), but for now, you've got to save up your pennies if you want all of that in one camera.

If you like what they're doing (and you want one of your own), you can find a pre-0rder link below.

Link: Nikon Df Pre-Order

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For the TL;DR among us, the last paragraph should do it for you.

November 5, 2013 at 6:19PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Joe Marine
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I think this is going to end up a part of the "Nikon package", as it were. Df will basically replace the D4 for the outdoor/low light shooting in a much smaller form while a future mirrorless fullframe camera (which is where the low-mid part of the market is heading due to much lower costs) a la Sony RX 100II will take the same Nikkor fullframe lens set but offer a bunch of different features. In and of itself Df seems like a strange move but I expect a lot more models in the Nikon lineup to supplement it. And the price for two cameras combined will still be lower than for D4. And they will be easier on your back.
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As to a "pure video" interchangeable lens camera/camcorder, those are already out there. FS-700 is a huge seller for Sony. FS-100 has also done well while VG-900 tanked. Af-100 has done very well for Panasonic, albeit with an MFT sensor. CES'14 is just around the corner, so one can expect more unveilings or, at the very worst, more announcements and road maps. Even Nikon may take a part in it.

November 5, 2013 at 7:32PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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DLD

8-bit H.264 is not what I would call a pure video camera. The FS700 with the RAW option built-in would be heading in the right direction, but Sony has been miserable about making their cameras easy to use.

November 5, 2013 at 7:39PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Joe Marine
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Abel Cine has the FS-700 Raw package (includes the interface, the recorder and some accessories) on special for $20K. I can't comment on the ease of use but it is what it is. No doubt future models will offer more for less --- pace of innovation and so forth. Early adapters pay the premium for what's available now.

November 5, 2013 at 8:05PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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DLD

Agreed. The FS700 sensor outputs 12-bit at 4K, but that's crippled down to 8-bit HD (albeit in a 10-bit wrapper) when saved internally or output thru HD/SDI. The external 4K recorder is incredible image quality but the additional bulk / cost leaves a lot to be desired.

November 6, 2013 at 1:44AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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I know for a fact that Sony sells around 500 units of FS700 globally, per month. I'm not sure if that's a huge seller, but there's some figures for you.

November 6, 2013 at 1:40AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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I didn't know it was that high. It's not as high as GoPro. But GoPro costs $400.00.

I'm curious how many Red Epics are sold a month.

November 6, 2013 at 8:31PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Gene

GoPro shipped 2.3M units in 2012 with about half a billion in sales. They are expecting to double the number in 2013.

November 6, 2013 at 8:47PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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DLD

Amazing, truly amazing!

November 6, 2013 at 9:27PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Gene

500 units @ ~ $8K is $4M, which will come out to ~ $50M annually (consider a year with 13 retail months) and this doesn't include the accessories, without which the camera is barely usable - you need the EVF, media cards, etc. Cinescopophobia calculated the full package at $24K, that is discounted by Abel Cine to ~ $20K (though, there may be some discrepancy in items included in the various packages). Even at $16K, with some buyers opting out of Sony made accessories or bulk/corporate sales, you're looking at $100M in annual revenues generated by one model. Ask Joe Rubinstein if his team will take $100M in Digital Bolex sales. So, yes, this is a mega hit, especially since it's likely to have a very high profit margin compared to their sub-$1K cameras that are found on the shelves at Best Buy / HH Craig / Fry's, etc.

November 6, 2013 at 8:38PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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DLD

The DF will not replace the DF because it shoots half as quickly. The D4 is a great sports camera because of both the low light capabilities and the 10+fps. The DF was a good idea, butchered and bloated by a committee. The filmmaking equivalent would be a digital SR2.

November 6, 2013 at 10:37AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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jonathan

It's a bummer for photographers who might want to grab some video on occasion, but there are now much better options at every price point for people who primarily shoot video. About the only people thrilled about this omission are the photo purists who were annoyed by the dual functionality on modern DLSR cameras for some reason.

November 5, 2013 at 7:59PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Marc B

There's no video in this camera, so i think it's overpriced.

November 7, 2013 at 4:31AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Stan

I wonder if Nikon would adopt a "C" line, lol. Leave no story untold.....not one.....ever. Nov. 3rd.

It doesn't seem like much of a task for these manufacturers to include a video feature in their cameras. For some reason however, they've cultivated a mindset of DSLR video as amateur hour i guess. That's really on them. I still think the old Mark 2 has a beautiful character to its image sans the artifacts.. You're still neutering their potential 5 years later with this 8-bit h.264 crap though. If you just do stills, cool... I get that. The general consensus of photographers primarily seems to be get that shit outta here, lol. (I hope by the end of next year I never see another spec sheet with "8-bit" attached to its video features, but that's another argument.)

Don't even get me started on the 1DC, lmao.. The 1DX is an absolute badass stills camera. The AF is amazing, it's weatherproof, etc. While Canon's head was in the right place in the concept of the 1DC, boom...8-bit. Lmao. You took a 4k image and bottle necked the piss out of it...effectively capturing the highest resolution banding anyone has ever seen.

All they really had to do is put a decent codec like 10 bit 4:2:2 pro res on the BMCC in the 1DX. That seems to be the problem however. Resolution is more important than the quality of it.

DSLR's have been making gorgeous videos for years now. I don't understand the problem with making it better. A dslr that can be an amazing still photographer cam like a 1DX or a D4, then double as a serious filmmaking tool with a great codec. Log, whatever. Why now, in 2013 does it have to be one or the other? Because all i hear are the arguments of elitists.

November 5, 2013 at 8:32PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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I was just about to openy wallet when I read it's only 16MB. Come on Nikon you can do better then that! Were in the age of 20+ MB 35mm cameras. Think I'll have to wait for the DF2...

November 5, 2013 at 8:49PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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heyman

Do you mean megapixels?

Do you understand that a larger sensor with fewer photosites is often more desirable than a smaller sensor with more of them?

November 6, 2013 at 1:00AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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trackofalljades

And do you realise this sensor is way too small to be taken serously?nNobody is going to buy this camera, except maybe you.

November 6, 2013 at 8:10PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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heyman

What a damn good read. Really enjoyed that. The oversaturated blogosphere covering film and visual storytelling could use more think pieces like this one.

November 5, 2013 at 10:11PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Shawn

Much appreciated!

November 6, 2013 at 3:55PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Joe Marine
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it has dials, get that? dials!

November 5, 2013 at 10:40PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Premini

Interesting article, Joe, but I still don't get why everyone thinks this will be easier to use? According to DPReview, the ergonomics are worse than on, say, the D600. Also, to change any of the settings, you still have to press a button at the same time as turning a dial. How is that any different from a 'modern' DSLR? In fact, it's MORE work as you now have to move your hand as well.

Don't get me wrong - the images will look stellar and as a user of vintage film cameras, I appreciate the design aesthetic but as far as I'm concerned, this is simply a step backwards in pretty much every category (apart from price for the D4 sensor but then, according to DXOMark the D800 is a better sensor in pretty much every area anyway). Add to that, the lack of video and you've ended up with functionality handicapped by design.

What am I missing?

November 6, 2013 at 5:01AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Marcos

I can't really comment on how it feels since I haven't used one yet, but the major settings are clearly marked for you right on the top of the camera where you want them. You know exactly what your settings are and you don't need to go into any menus to get to them. Locking mechanisms are extremely helpful for dials as they can be easily hit by mistake, that's why a camera like the 5D Mark III has a locking mechanism for the picture style/settings dial.

In practice I don't see this being slower really because there are plenty of times where you need to make a big jump in shutter or ISO, and you can turn the dial right to where you want it rather than have to scroll through all of the settings, possibly passing the one you want in the process.

To each his own though, I'm not a luddite, and I am fine with touch screens and things, but I also know that I've hit wrong buttons on DSLRs far more than still photo cameras.

November 6, 2013 at 3:51PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Joe Marine
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Everyone gets "fat finger" when it comes to digital screen menus. I myself don't think you are a luddite. Maybe some will. But I think those dials are nice. It's makes a feeling of certainty to actually see the settings, immediately visible, all the time.

November 8, 2013 at 11:44PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Gene

I don´t get why most of the video community are ranting against this camera. I can understand some pro photographer, but not us.... We already have outstanding, low budget equipment for our jobs, why everything has to have everything this days? More does not equal quality or better paid proyects. This is a camera for a specific type of photography market, IMO for hipsters gone Pro or Pure or Retro.... arrgh! so confusing. In any case "Pure Photographers" (whatever that means) are well covered by Leica, so you're not "that pure" if your using a Nikon Df... If I MUST.... choose my destiny, $3k are better spent on a D800/E.

Have a nice shooting.

November 6, 2013 at 8:18AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Nikon was never a cinema company, so why should we expect them to become one?

November 6, 2013 at 8:27AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Pat

I'm not really saying that in the post, and in fact I like what they've done with this camera. Sony and Canon are really more who I am calling out for not designing things in a sensible way for people who need to shoot steady video.

November 6, 2013 at 3:54PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Joe Marine
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This guy said exactly what I suspected...http://www.eoshd.com/content/11454/nikon-df

November 6, 2013 at 9:36AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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"Do you mean megapixels?

Do you understand that a larger sensor with fewer photosites is often more desirable than a smaller sensor with more of them?"

Hi this is what you want for video, but a highend still photo camera should have more megapixels. It's helps when you dip in to large print work and fine art photography. This camera isn't a video camera... 16 megapixels isn't that great when their D800 has around 36 which is close to medium format digital.

November 6, 2013 at 12:32PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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I'm happy to see Scotland and Edinburgh in a promo vid. :) So much content created in the UK is London focused.

November 6, 2013 at 12:42PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Ant

could possibly be the best low light camera of all time. sort of wish they kept a lil something video-wise.

November 6, 2013 at 1:42PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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dv

Nikon makes a camera with manual controls, that even supports non-AI lenses and then fails to offer a split prism focusing screen for said lenses.

To make things worse the screen is fixed and can't be exchanged.

Focus confirmation is not going to cut it

WTF?

FAIL

November 6, 2013 at 2:01PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Wilbert

feels like a last ditch effort by a company that was never part of the video revolution, and now wants to dig in the heels and rally only the most loyal followers. this will never become a mass market item.

November 6, 2013 at 2:29PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Huh? And who, do you think, produced the very first DSLR with video capabilities?

November 7, 2013 at 4:48PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Semka

Easily the best stuff I've read about this camera. Well done, Joe. Let's get real ergonomics back into videoland! That AMIRA is the closest I've seen, and she is a beauty—here's to hoping the trend catches on.

November 6, 2013 at 2:52PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Thanks for the kind words. I feel like I'm shouting at no one but I know there are quite a few out there that prefer video cameras that make sense for how they are actually going to be used.

November 6, 2013 at 3:32PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Joe Marine
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By the way, speaking off oddities and Nikon - how come BMD Cinema Cam has a 2.5K res but not 60 fps at 1080p while the brand new D5300 has 60 fps at 1080p but not 2.5K?
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Upgrade software on D5300 and it becomes a hot ass video camera. $800 for the body!

November 6, 2013 at 6:24PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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DLD

BlackMagic says they want to go to 60fps but they are having issues with heat. They said they want 60 fps too just like everyone else and are trying to find a way to design it to dissipate the heat.

I'm moreso hoping to finally see some footage from the 4K.

November 6, 2013 at 8:42PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Gene

Exactly but what issues does Nikon have? New model, new processor. 2.5K at 24 fps is actually less data than 1080p at 60 fps. This one begs for a firmware upgrade.

November 6, 2013 at 11:25PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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DLD

"Nikon Corp (TYO:7731) cut its full-year unit sales forecast for high-end cameras for the second quarter in a row on Thursday, as a dramatic fall in demand among photography hobbyists that began last year accelerated faster than expected ... It cut its unit sales projection for interchangeable lens cameras to 6.20 million from a previous forecast of 6.55 million, which had predicted the first fall in sales of the format since Nikon's first digital SLR in 1999."
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/nikon-drops-sales-forecast-high-071340511....
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I reckon it might have helped Nikon's bottom line if it did not cripple some of its products.

November 7, 2013 at 12:16PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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DLD

Yes, I think D600 was a hard lesson for them, but they have a history of making things right eventually.

November 7, 2013 at 4:57PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Semka

According to Nikon Rumors, the Df sales are slo-o-o-o-o-o-o-w. Looks like a dud.

November 8, 2013 at 12:25AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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DLD

If they want a fast seller, it sees like if they put a microphone jack and a head phone jack on the next V1, and remove the 30 minute limit, seems like it would sell great. the next V1 is supposed to have (if what I have read is right) 4K video for the full 30 min limit. If it had a mic, headphones, and no 30 minute limit, I'd definitely have uses for it. The price point is suppose to be well under $1000.00 (if what I have read is true).

November 8, 2013 at 12:48AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Gene

The bulk of their sales come from the sub-$500 cameras but that market - with the exception of action cams - is drying up fast. In 2013, the Nikanon went for that market again however, while letting the $1K-$4K portion remain virtually stagnant. (minor upgrades to D5300 and D600 and a new 70D). One has to anticipate major changes for that segment in 2014. The new chips are there. As is software. With Sony having a prosumer 4K camcorder for $4,500 and the smartphones with the lower bit rate for a lot less (Note 3 costs ~ $500 to manufacture), I expect other manufacturers to bring a lot of new products to the store shelves prior to 2014 NAB.
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Hypothetically, everything $1K and up should have 2K with 60 fps (D5300 does) AND 2.5K at 24/25/30. Of course, if this was available on 70D, the sales of their C100 and C300 would plummet. So, they cede the market for the time being until new models are out in full force.

November 8, 2013 at 4:19PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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DLD

I would like to react to the note about Nikon 1 in the article. I can't judge its usability for industry professionals, as I am not one, but I consider the saying "fashion accessory" a bit too harsh.

In my experience, Nikon 1 V1 in particular, is a good camera for video with internet as target platform.

Once upon a time, I decided to buy Canon HV40 - at the time it was superb camcorder for indie shooting, with manual focus, yet no control over gain (ISO) and no full manual mode in general (just A, S priority). It cost me a fortune at the time, I did a few videos with it, but I was constantly afraid I will break it (very fragile mechanical construction, especially tape door).

With V1 with its current price (around $300), I get a "camcorder" with notably larger sensor, finally allowing to separate subjects from background, full manual control, highly pleasant noise characteristics and the best of all - with the dummy mechanical reduction available for less than $50, I can connect all my Nikon manual lenses to it.

And unlike for example Nikon D5100, you have direct preview of the 16:9 crop factor available -before- firing the record button.

I recently shot a promo videos for my company with V1 (currently in post processing), and I can say only good things about V1.

November 8, 2013 at 6:30AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Petr Schreiber

Petr Schreiber

Do you have a web site?

I am hoping I can see that V1 video when you are done with it. I like the color palette of the V1! And the 4K bursts look great to me. For such a small inexpensive camera it is wonderful. Can anyone find a better camera at $300.00? This is a video of 4K bursts of the Nikon V1, raw:

http://vimeo.com/61441075

Another nice sample, description under video, 4K rendered in 1080p, but it shows the nice color palette of the V1:

http://vimeo.com/63562080

The V1 really is impressive.

November 8, 2013 at 11:39PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Gene

I forgot this one, V1 4K sample: http://vimeo.com/63764767

November 8, 2013 at 11:50PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Gene

Hi Gene!,

I am currently in process of creating website dedicated to specifics of shooting video with Nikon 1 (V1). I am writing content of all sections to text file. It's about week since I started now and it will take two more weeks I guess. Then I will decide whether to pick blog or classic website form.

I have a few older sample videos here:
http://vimeo.com/68629889 (concert footage, some of it ISO Hi1 = 6400)
http://vimeo.com/72065849 (a bit silly video shot without preparation, but even such a sample can be of use for some one)
http://vimeo.com/56499516 ("video PF" - mostly primitive puppet animation with Nikon 50mm f2)

...yes, amateurish, but can give idea.

The video I have in post processing now is less "childish", featuring real actor and a robot. Once out, I will publish. I am also processing footage from concert, where I used two V1s - shot in horrible lighting conditions, yet it seems to come out nicely.

November 9, 2013 at 3:10AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Petr Schreiber

Nice colors in those. Yes, those do give an idea what that camera does.

November 9, 2013 at 11:04AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Gene

What is the link to the web site you are working on? I will want to see it when it's ready.

November 9, 2013 at 11:38AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Gene

Hi Gene,

can you drop me an email at petrschreiber (thatEmailCharacter) gmail.com? I will send you the link once I have something representative ready. Posting it here right now would be nice way to commit suicide :D, it is really work-in-progress, no images, ...

November 9, 2013 at 5:33PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Petr Schreiber

I am in love. This camera is beautiful. Canon Lifer, but would love to have one of these.

November 8, 2013 at 9:01AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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This camera is BEAUTIFUL for those (me included) who love the vintage look and the feel of those, long gone from our everyday camera bag 35mm film cameras. I truly welcome this "collector's-look" camera. Nevertheless, when I see a feature, like video, taken from it, it saddens me, only because of the lack of ability to record some precious moments.
I am sure this camera has not been created to make mega-productions, but in the contrary, to enable the owner to create superb quality imagery and to set an statement, which I believe is: to allow and show-off the beauty of a purist and a minimalist soul.

November 8, 2013 at 10:33AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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i loved this camera.

November 8, 2013 at 12:02PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Baremis

Why not just by an F2 and be done with it. This is a piece of shyte.

February 1, 2014 at 1:46AM, Edited September 4, 11:45AM

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Ted