June 7, 2016 at 1:10AM, Edited June 7, 1:12AM

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If you had 2 or 3 grand what camera would you buy right now?

I'm on the hunt for a new camera. Ideally 4K. I'm really interested in hearing first hand experience. I've been a Canon owner in the past. The only factors I just can't tolerate would be severe overheating and really noticeable "jelly" effect / rolling shutter. Any perspective and experience would be much appreciated. The cameras I'm currently considering would be GH4, NX1, GX85, A7sII, A7rII. Thanks.

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Dollar for dollar and ounce for ounce, the GH4 remains an incredible entry point into 4k. If and when you want to upgrade it, add an ATMOS SHOGUN. That fits within your 3k budget ceiling. A few choice Olympus Pro lenses will keep things small and light--the design goals of the m43 system. Or go nuts and purchase Veydra cine lenses, which are also among the smallest, lightest, and least expensive cine lenses out there.

June 7, 2016 at 9:52AM, Edited June 7, 9:53AM

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Is it necessary to get speed booster to achieve shallow depth of field with this camera? Can you recommend a good zoom lens for GH4? thanks!

ELi

June 15, 2016 at 7:32PM

I am in total agreement with Michael. Given your budget the GH4 will give you a lot more camera compared to what else is out there. Just make sure you master the GH4 camera settings ( this camera is great when set correctly, and pretty horrible with the wrong settings ), and check out the Leeming LUT ONE for the GH4 which is a 3D color LUT that provides very accurate color reproduction for several of the main GH4 image profiles : www.leeminglutone.com

June 7, 2016 at 12:41PM, Edited June 7, 12:44PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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Thanks for info - and especially for that link. Any thoughts on the GX85 vs GH4? Both have incredible price points. I believe the biggest differences are the lack of audio input on GX85 - which isn't a deal breaker for me - but it does also have image stabilization. The Leeming LUTs does make me think the GH4 is the way to go. Thanks.

June 7, 2016 at 1:26PM, Edited June 7, 1:35PM

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>>>Any thoughts on the GX85 vs GH4?

The GX85 has 5-axis in-body stabilization which is a pretty big deal for quick handheld shooting.

The GH4 has V-Log with 12 stops of dynamic range, a bigger battery that lasts almost 2 times as long as the one in the GX85, and the GH4 is a weather-proof camera so rain or snow won't bother it.

My guess is that the GH5 might have in-body 5-axis stabilization, better dynamic range, and 4K 60p. ( I am hoping for 10-bit 4:2:2 internal recording too, fingers crossed. ) But we likely won't see the GH5 camera until the end of this year or Spring 2017, and it won't be cheap. ( the GH4 will be a bargoon compared to the price of a new GH5 )

June 7, 2016 at 2:31PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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I heard from a BH sales rep that the GH5 will be available September this year.

Michael Militscher

June 13, 2016 at 5:36PM

I feel like the G7 doesn't get enough love. Along with the sony a6300 and the bmpcc, I'd say it's still the best bet under 1000$.

The G7 is pretty much as good as the GH4 in all video and still features (sharp UHD, very good battery life, light and small, not great in low light, around 10 stops dynamic range, etc.) with a couple of features missing:
-no true 4K (4096x2160. UHD is 3840x2160);
-no headphone jack;
-no V-log (which adds around 2 stops of dynamic range);
-not weather-proofed;
-slow-mo tops at 28mbps 60p;
-30min. recording time limit;
-no 10-bit output via HDMI.

There are some other differences, but these are the ones that matter for video shooters.

June 8, 2016 at 5:33PM

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José Pedro Pinto
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GH4 is by far the best deal. Extremely dependable, can record for more than 30 minutes, battery life is great, doesn't overheat, and great out of the box color. You can get one and still have room for accessories and some lenses.

June 8, 2016 at 5:41PM

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Mark K.
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I was actually looking into the G7. The biggest for me would be the lack of V-Log and the lack of weather proofing. But its a big plus that the Leeming LUTs would be available for it. Its seems like a good option for waiting to make a much larger investment. Getting the GH4 as an A cam and G7 as a B could be a great set up. Thanks for all the info/perspectives.

June 9, 2016 at 1:02PM

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Not 4k but the c100 mk1 is a superb option, not to be overlooked because of its age.

June 9, 2016 at 6:09PM

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Yeah I second this motion. I owned a GH4, A7S, 5DIII but I moved up to the C100. Those internal ND filters are heaven, the camera is really low noise and sharp, a real log profile, 12 stops DR, and amazing colours. With an external recorder you could get a C300 like image(which a lot of Palme D'or winners have in common, maybe because the cinematography does not get in the way and you can fix more on story and on the performances of the actors itself)

Travel Pops

June 12, 2016 at 6:22AM, Edited June 12, 6:22AM

I agree with this as well the C100 has everything you need in a video camera and shouldn't be overlooked. It does shoot 4k but internally downscales to 1080p which gives it a much crisper picture.

Michael Militscher

June 13, 2016 at 11:27PM

Looks like the 5dmk4 is about to be release, panasonic GH5 should arrive at photokina so if there are no hurry it might be worth to wait. If you have a gig right now the a7sII is the best camera 3k can buy. Probably more future proof too. The GH4 is a great little camera, very sturdy but I am not a fan of their color science, DR and highlite rolloff.
About overheating and jello effect it depends what and how you shoot, I have an A6300 and I am just in love with the image I get out of it, the grain is natural, it's so sharp, great DR. I have never experience overheating and as I like a clean style, tripod, slider, etc, I don't experience that much jello, noting that would make me regret buying this camera.

June 10, 2016 at 3:46AM, Edited June 10, 3:47AM

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AvdS
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Agreed. I would buy a Sony A6300 with a couple of good Canon lenses and an adapter. And then I would probably upgrade to a Canon 5DIV later on (if the rumored specs are true...)

Kenneth Merrill

June 11, 2016 at 3:46PM

A7s hands down. No contest with GH4 video. I've used both.

June 13, 2016 at 9:31AM

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Clark McCauley
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A7sII, I've used both GH4 and A7sII and in my opinion the A7sII comes on top. In my opinion is has a better picture quality, plus the ability to shoot in low light which has saved me a number of times. The one issue with the A7sII is the menu.

July 3, 2016 at 9:17PM, Edited July 3, 9:17PM

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Toby Garside
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