Though her most recent triumph is the highly-praised Netflix miniseries The Queen's Gambit, Michelle Tesoro has built a career working with A-list showrunners and directors, within both film and television. From mastering the art of the dialog scene with the HBO series In Treatment, to her collaborations with luminaries like Michael Mann, David Fincher,Ava DuVernay, Mimi Leder, and David Milch, she has plenty of stories to tell.

Tesoro managed to navigate the exact career she wanted and has plenty of wisdom to impart, like why sometimes saying no to projects is even more important than saying yes. We hope you enjoy!

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This episode of The No Film School Podcast was produced by George Edelman and Jeffrey Reeser.