September 5, 2018

Find out the Details (and Our First Reaction) to the Canon Full Frame Mirrorless EOS R

Canon enters a new direction of storytelling with its mirrorless EOS R.

No Film School was invited to a press junket where Canon announced its new mirrorless camera, the EOS R. We're sharing our initial reaction along with all the technical details, and over the next couple days, we will be testing out the camera's video capabilities (stills too) and will share our findings in future posts. 

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Kevin Ogawa, president and chief operating officer of Canon U.S.A. Inc.

Be the Revolution

The "R" stands for Revolution or, "Be the Revolution," as said by Kevin Ogawa, president and chief operating officer of Canon U.S.A., Inc. during his presentation. The EOS R is an entirely new system for Canon, but the strategy is to include rather than replace your existing Canon hardware. Three mount adapters allow you to bring every available EF or EF-S lens to the table.

The EOS R has the familiar EF 54mm diameter mount, but instead of a 44mm flange focal distance (like on the EF and EF-S), the EOS R comes in at 20mm. If you're keeping tabs, the Nikon Z7 and Z6 models are 16mm. This new mirrorless structure allows the rear lens elements to be closer to the image plane, improving edge to edge performance and allowing for faster lens designs.

Four RF lenses tagged along with the camera body announcement: RF 28-70mm F2 L USM, RF 24-105mm F4 L IS USM, RF 50mm F1.2 L USM and the RF 35mm F1.8 Macro IS STM.

Sensor

A 30.3 megapixel CMOS sensor has a full frame image size of 36 x 24mm harnessed by a DIGIC 8 image processor. ISO speeds range from 100 to 40,000 with three expansions in L: 50, H1: 51,200, and H2: 102,400.

Its Dual Pixel CMOS AF touts a max of 5,655 manually selectable AF points covering 88% horizontal and 100% vertical for all RF lenses and some EF lenses. The AF works in dark scenarios with a low light exposure value of EV -6^. 

Video

It can record 4K UHD up to 29.97fps ALL-I 480Mbps or IPB 120Mbps. In 4K UHD, there is a 1.6x crop factor and a 4:2:0 Rec. 709 8-bit internal recording. Video files are MP4 (MPEG-4 AVC/H.264).

However, Canon Log (C-Log) is available internally (4:2:0 Rec. 709 8-bit) offering 12 stops of dynamic range at ISO 400. C-Log is also an option when recording externally through HDMI (mini) at 4K YCbCr 4:2:2 Rec. 709 or Rec. 2020 10-bit and 4K/Full HD/HD YCbCr 4:2:2 Rec. 709 8-bit. Canon adding 10-bit external recording is a nice surprise.

At full HD, you can enable or disable cropping, and recording rates are maxed at 1080 54.94fps ALL-I 180Mbps or IPB 60Mbps. Just note that EF-S shooting is not available at 54.94fps.

Canon added 4K frame grabs, distortion correction during recording, and movie digital IS with 5-axis image stabilization. The EOS R has internal HDR recording at 29.97 IPB clips. 

Recording Rates: 

  • 4K 3840 x 2160: 29.97fps/24.00fps/23.98fps, ALL-I: 480Mbps
  • 4K 3840 x 2160: 29.97fps/24.00fps/23.98fps, IPB: 120Mbps
  • Full HD 1920 x 1080: 59.94fps, ALL-I: 180Mbps
  • Full HD 1920 x 1080: 59.94fps, IPB: 60Mbps
  • Full HD 1920 x 1080: 29.97fps/24.00fps/23.98fps/HDR Video, ALL-I: 90Mbps
  • Full HD 1920 x 1080: 29.97fps/24.00fps/23.98fps/HDR Video, IPB: 30Mbps
  • Full HD 1920 x 1080: 29.97fps, IPB Light: 12Mbps
  • HD 1280 x 720: 119.9fps, ALL-I: 160Mbps
  • HD 1280 x 720: 59.94fps, ALL-I: 80Mbps
  • HD 1280 x 720: 59.94fps, IPB: 26Mbps
  • HD 1280 x 720: 29.97fps/HDR Video, IPB: 13Mbps

Viewfinder & LCD

The 0.5-inch OLED electronic viewfinder has approximately 3.69 million dots with 100% coverage. When we used the EVF, images were bright and clear. The camera positioned well against our face and AF tracking points didn't distract from the image. The LCD was one of the high points of the EOS R. Canon did this right. It's a 3.15-inch touchscreen display with approximately 2.10 million dots and 100% coverage. It fully flips out and rotates as a front-facing screen for -loggers and it's really solid—metal-like in its build. 

Multi-function Bar

The multi-function bar is a new feature from Canon. It's placed on the back of the camera to the right of the EVF. It serves as a programmable button for items like ISO, white balance, AF, movie shooting, and other features in shooting or playback modes. We didn't use this new feature during our initial introduction with the camera but we'll see how it progresses in the coming days. Customizing it for white balance seems like a no-brainer. 

EOS R Mount

The heart of the EOS R system is the large diameter mount and short back focus of its lens design. There's now a 12-pin connector that transfers data between the lens and camera body which Canon says does so at a faster rate. Each of the RF lenses has a new programmable control ring integrated into the lens. Similar to the multi-function bar, it allows you to assign lens aperture, ISO, shutter speed, and exposure compensation functions to the ring for fast adjustments. 

Canon introduced three mount adapters to pair with EF and EF-S lenses. Let's break them down. 

Mount Adapter EF-EOS R ($99 - October)
This is Canon's straight-forward adapter for EF and EF-S lenses allowing them to connect to the EOS R body. 

Control Ring Mount Adapter EF-EOS R ($199 - October)
This adapter adds the control ring to use with EF and EF-S lenses. This is cool as it adds new functionality to older lenses. 

Drop-in Filter Mount Adapter EF-EOS R ($299/$399 - February 2019)
This gives you the ability to drop in variable circular polarizing or ND filters. Two versions are available with the ND option being the more expensive. 

EOS R
EOS R

EOS R Lenses

The RF 28-70mm F2 L USM that was available to test was a pre-production model, and so we're not allowed to comment on the image quality just yet, but the lens itself was meaty and had some weight and length to it. The RF 35mm F1.8 Macro IS STM was also a pre-production model but we didn't get our hands on one. 

As for the RF 24-105mm F4 L IS USM, Canon users will find it familiar to the EF version and RF 50mm F1.2 L USM is a touch faster. Both produced great quality images edge to edge. 

  • RF 28-70mm F2 L USM ($2,999 - December)
  • RF 24-105mm F4 L IS USM ($1,099 - December)
  • RF 50mm F1.2 L USM ($2,299 - October)
  • RF 35mm F1.8 Macro IS STM ($499 - December)

Additionally, a new EF-M 32mm F1.4 STM and two updated EF telephoto lenses made an appearance. The EF 600mm F4 L IS III USM and EF 400mm F2.8L IS III USM have dramatically lost weight (2.2 lbs each). When picking up the old version and the new one at the same time, it was a world of difference. 

  • EF-M 32mm F1.4 STM ($479 - September)
  • EF 600mm F4 L IS III USM ($12,999 - December)
  • EF 400mm F2.8L IS III USM ($11,999 - December)

Power & Other Features

There is a 3.5mm audio input. The HDMI is a mini connector. For batteries, LP-E6 provides power. In-camera USB charging is supported through LP-E6N batteries and the USB Power Adapter PD-E1. There's an option for silent shutter. WiFI and Bluetooth compatibility. It can shoot compact RAW or C-RAW (.CR3) files. Magnesium alloy body. Dust and water resistant. 

EOS R
EOS R

First Reaction

The EOS R felt great in-hand—new but with a familiar Canon feel. It had good balance with the 28-70mm. When using the 50mm with eye tracking on the AF was very fast. We actually preferred the feel of the camera when using it with the battery grip.

The most looming spec thus far is the 4K UHD crop frame. It'd be stellar if it were a full frame readout internally (or externally, at least). Canon did say this is its first step into mirrorless with models to come. Will we see improvements? Yes. How long will we have to wait? It will be hard to say. In the meantime, we'll be testing the EOS R out more over the next few days and report back. 

Pricing & Shipping

EOS R Body - $2,299 - October 
EOS R + RF 24-105mm lens kit - $3,399 - October 

If you have any questions about the EOS R, let us know in the comments section. We'll be answering them as we go along. You can also visit Canon's YouTube page, as the company has put up several videos about it. 

EOS R
EOS R
EOS R
EOS R
EOS R

EOS R Tech Specs: 

  • 30.3 MP Full-frame CMOS (36.0 x 24.0mm)
  • DIGIC 8 Image Processor 
  • New RF Mount
  • Dual Pixel CMOS AF
  • 4K UHD 8-bit internal 
  • 4K UHD 10-bit external 
  • C-Log
  • EVF
  • Articulating LCD
  • WiFi
  • Bluetooth
  • Dimensions: 5.35 x 3.87 x 3.32 in. / 135.8 x 98.3 x 84.4mm 
  • Weight: 1.46 lbs / 660g

Your Comment

22 Comments

This is definitely going to be THE new Vlogging camera.

I don't Vlog though so I don't see this replacing my GH5. I can't pull myself away from the internal 10 bit and IBIS.

September 5, 2018 at 3:25PM, Edited September 5, 3:25PM

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If anything this is the worst camera for vlogging. Vlogging needs wide angle, with the 1.7x crop you can't get a decent wide angle, a 24mm becomes 41mm...

September 5, 2018 at 7:44PM, Edited September 5, 7:44PM

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That's ridiculous. So many people use the GH5 for Vlogging and that has a 2x crop. You can definitely get a decent wide angle to shoot. Ya know they make plenty of lenses that are under 20mm.

September 6, 2018 at 10:58AM, Edited September 6, 10:58AM

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Micro four thirds has plenty of lenses designed with the 2x crop in mind, such as 7-14mm. If you can find EF lenses like that then you are good, but you can't.

September 6, 2018 at 2:53PM

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So close. I'd jump on it so I could stay on Canon.... if it didn't crop in on 4K. There is no full frame recording in 4K unfortunately it seems. Sad. I hope the next gen comes soon and includes this or that they fix it with a firmware update.

September 5, 2018 at 4:37PM, Edited September 5, 4:37PM

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Braden Storrs
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Why is the crop such a big deal? I don't think you would be able to tell the difference in quality between full frame and the x1.7 crop.

September 5, 2018 at 6:07PM, Edited September 5, 6:07PM

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When you are vlogging in 4k you are not going to be able to get what you want in frame unless you have a heavy fisheye

September 5, 2018 at 6:49PM, Edited September 5, 6:49PM

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Walter Wallace
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You don't need that heavy of a fisheye though. Did everyone forget how many people use the GH5 to Vlog and that has a 2x crop.

September 6, 2018 at 10:59AM

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Yes, but they are using lenses made for the GH5 m4/3 format, so a standard zoom is 12-35mm which is the same as a 24-70mm zoom on a Full Frame camera.

For the Canon R camera with it's 4K 1.67x crop you would need to use a 14-42mm lens to get the same view as a 24-70mm lens on a Full Frame camera.

September 6, 2018 at 12:22PM

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Guy McLoughlin
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It's just a matter of having full frame sensor and not being able to use it. I'm not saying the quality won't be good. You just physically can't achieve the same kind of look (with the same lenses) without being able to sample the full sensor. That and field of view. It's just more useful.

September 5, 2018 at 8:52PM, Edited September 5, 8:53PM

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Braden Storrs
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It’s a huge deal. That 28mm-70mm f2 lens that sounds so great on paper (except for the insane $3000 cost) gets effectively turned into a 50mm-126mm which is now, not so great. Also, cropping in on a sensor does not give you the full quality of the sensor. The image will be softer and won’t possess as much detail. It’s absolutely unacceptable in 2018 to be shooting an industry standard aspect ratio, at a normal frame rate, on a cropped sensor.

However, are we really that surprised that Canon did this? They’ve lost the ability to innovate over there. Their engineers have run out of gas and their board needs some young, fresh minds. They’re using a 3 year old 5D MK IV sensor in their “brand new” camera.

Sony finally started stealing a significant amount of market share this past year from Canon. After this EOS-R debacle, watch what happens next. They’re about to get the message very clear. Sony still has the a7s III to announce, Fuji just blew everyone away with the XT-3, and Panasonic is rumored to step into the full frame space this month. Canon can no longer ride on all that old glass everyone bought into during the 5D’s heyday (and have now been holding onto with a death grip). I’m finally ready to sell. Canon had their shot.

September 6, 2018 at 10:58AM, Edited September 6, 11:04AM

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Derek Doublin
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As a cinematographer how could you say canon lost the ability to innovate? Did you see the C200 or the C300M2? Those are really awesome cameras and the 8 bit codec they threw into that C200 is pretty impressive and innovative.

September 6, 2018 at 11:04AM

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I own the C200 and the 8 bit codec is mushy and terrible in my opinion. My original C300 shoots a better image than that 8 bit image on the C200.

Canon's only major breakthrough over the past few years has been DPAF. I like the Raw on my C200 and it's a beautiful image, but man, the file sizes are killing me. I didn't think they'd be an issue, but I'm looking at a pile of 4TB and 8TB drives right now, that gets higher and higher every week, and it's getting pretty old pretty fast.

Canon doesn't seem to be able to produce a camera with a middle ground codec that can overcrank. The 120 fps on the C200 is horrid. The C300 MK II can't overcrank at all without cropping. They have run into a major wall and I'm beginning to think they just haven't been able to build a sensor that can do it. Because if they can, where is it?

September 6, 2018 at 9:44PM, Edited September 6, 9:44PM

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Derek Doublin
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I'm stoked for this camera. The only thing I wish it had was 120 fps in Full HD. But, I'm excited to see more footage coming out of this camera.

September 5, 2018 at 5:12PM, Edited September 5, 5:12PM

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Alex Williams
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I like this as an entry level mirrorless camera. The 4k crop make vlogging 4k nearly impossible. 1080 60 is a welcome addition though

September 5, 2018 at 6:48PM, Edited September 5, 6:48PM

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Walter Wallace
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Just out of curiosity, will the 1.6x crop in 4K be the same as I get on my current 60D APS-C cropped sensor? If so, then this will be a major upgrade for me :)

September 6, 2018 at 5:46AM

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Willie Bouwer
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How does this camera fare with the 'ol overheating issue that DSLRs usually have? I understand that it doesn't have a fan, etc. Does it get hot? How long can you run video clips before it does, and will it power-down when hot? Lastly, does getting hot risk damaging it? I've fried a few Canon DSLRs attempting to use them for video.

September 6, 2018 at 11:39AM

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Is Vlogging seriously what most of the readers here are worried about?
What happened to this place!

September 6, 2018 at 4:40PM, Edited September 6, 4:40PM

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This was my first thought. I don't think canon makes cameras with Vlogging in mind. I see this camera and I am kind of impressed, would be a nice upgrade from my 6D, giving me some video options I've been wanting, depends what low light looks like. I am just beyond the whole Vlogging world, there are so many people out there vlogging, it's just white noise at this point. Find a good Vlogging camera and stick with it, do you need to upgrade every-time a new camera comes out for your 10 youtube viewers? Before people say a 6d is not a serious camera, that's my personal one. I use a c300 mark 2, 1dx mark 2 and c100 mark 2 at work.

September 19, 2018 at 8:45AM

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Where is No Film School's post about the new Fuji XT-3 which was announced today and smokes Canon's EOS-R specs?

September 6, 2018 at 9:45PM

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Derek Doublin
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I've been a Canon user since the Canon A-1 (film camera), and now have two versions of the Canon EOS 5D and a good range of 'L' series lenses, but this new camera is overpriced garbage - and look at the CRAZY lens prices! You need to spend a fortune just to get started! - and it's rubbish for 4K video for wide angle users with that crop factor. Canon are just taking the mickey with this camera - though for most people it's beyond a joke. Canon have shot themselves in the foot yet again, as they did with the 4K video on the EOS 5D Mk IV. It's time Canon got back into the real world.

September 8, 2018 at 3:00PM, Edited September 8, 3:15PM

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Wow it's an aps-c full frame camera.

September 10, 2018 at 9:09AM, Edited September 10, 9:08AM

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