August 16, 2015

Veydra Mini Prime Cinema Lenses Will Soon Be Compatible with C Mount & Sony E Mount

Recently on Kickstarter, Ryan Avery posted an update about the Veydra Mini Primes, which up until this point, only came in a Micro 4/3 mount (they are all-manual lenses). If you are a Kickstarter backer, they are going to release the option for Sony E mount, as well as screw-on C mount. The reason these will work on Sony cameras is that the 25mm-85mm lenses can actually cover APS-C, even though they were originally made for Micro 4/3 cameras, which have a much smaller frame size. On Sony cameras, you'll want to be shooting in APS-C mode.

If you're unfamiliar with these lenses, here's a quick introduction:

And here's a review:

As far as the update on Kickstarter, here's the deal with the 12mm Mini Prime:

Hello again everyone.  We cannot thank all of you enough for being patient and waiting for the 12mm to deliver.  We have had significant challenges in producing this lens on a mass scale.  All wide angle lenses are very difficult to manufacture. Flatness of the focus across the image and accuracy of the focus scale are both big problems for all wide angle lens manufacturers.  We are no exception.  We have finally resolved the production issues that have caused multiple delays in the shipment of the 12mm.

We will ship the 12mm Mini Prime to every one around the middle of September or as soon as possible.    We will never rush a product to market until it ready for your demanding needs and long lasting quality.  We thank you for your patience and we are confident in our decision to delay the 12mm until it is ready in middle of September.

Lenses will be available in Sony E as well as C Mount:

Good news for you who have invested in our Kickstarter, we will be making a special offer to all Kickstarter backers for our latest product updates which include a new Sony E and C Mount options as well as a lens support.

We often get emails asking for adaptability of the Veydra Mini Primes to other cameras than M4/3.  The physical design of the Mini Primes is too small and the flange depth is too shallow (distance of the back of the lens to the sensor) to accommodate adaptation to Canon EF or PL mount.  However, we can offer other shallow flange depth mounts like Sony E and C Mount.  Therefore we will offer a Sony E mount for the Veydra 25mm, 35mm, 50mm and soon to be 85mm lenses in APS-C mode coverage on all Sony NEX or E mount cameras including the Sony A7s, A7RII, A6000, FS-700, and FS-7. 

We will also offer a C Mount for direct mounting on Super16 film cameras and Digital Bolex cameras with no need for adapters.  The C Mount will work on all current Veydra Mini Prime lenses except the 50mm which will require it's own dedicated C Mount.

On the issue of lens support:

There has been some significant discussion online about the inherent loose nature of the Micro4/3 mount.  This is not so much as design flaw on the part of camera manufacturers as it is matter of original intention for the mount.  PL mounts were made for "positive lock" on cinema cameras for heavy cinema lenses.  Micro4/3 mount was meant for very small lightweight still photo lenses and therefore, when we put a heavier lens like the Veydra Mini Prime on it, the lens will move a bit.

We have addressed the issue by making a lens support which we will put on our website soon and send a special offer to Kickstarter backers.  This will resolve the twisting of the mount and resulting image shift.  When we originally designed the Veydra Mini Primes, we considered adding a built in lens support but it would have increased the size of the lens and complexity of manufacture so we decided to wait and see if a support would be required.  Again, we apologize for the delay in this support as we expected to have it completed by now however it proved to be its own design challenge which we have resolved.  We will ship the lens support for interface with 15mm LWS Rod systems in October.

Though these aren't dirt cheap, they are pretty inexpensive as far as cinema lenses are concerned, with a whole set of four lenses, the 16, 25, 35, 50mm T2.2 going for $3,700. The 12mm T2.2 and 85mm T2.2 are not available just yet, but if you wanted a full set you're looking at close to around $6,000. If you want to only use these on APS-C cameras, you're only going to want the 25mm, 35mm, 50mm, and 85mm. We'll see at some point if these mount upgrades get into the hands of non-Kickstarter backers, but I imagine that will happen eventually.

If you want to try them out, there are places like LensProToGo that have them in stock.

For more, check out the links below.

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Another reason it would have been cool if the Panasonic DVX-200 had interchangeable lenses. I like what the Gh4 does, but I refuse to buy a stills camera for video work, I simply refuse. I would like a proper video camera for shooting proper video. Still waiting on af-102

August 17, 2015 at 2:36AM

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I am hoping that a DVX200 with a Micro 4/3 lens mount will be announced next year when the GH5 is announced.

August 17, 2015 at 10:26AM

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Guy McLoughlin
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So will this work on my Blackmagic pocket cinema camera with my Cmount for it?! That works be epic!

August 17, 2015 at 3:48AM

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Nathan Baldassero
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Or you could mount them natively with their original m4/3 mount, which makes WAY more sense.

August 17, 2015 at 4:21AM

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Alex Mitchell
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True lol, but I guess I just assumed that the cmount version might be cheaper than the m4/3.

August 17, 2015 at 10:21AM

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Nathan Baldassero
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The big issue I have with buying M43 lenses is that they won't work with any other cameras. I have a gh2 and a pocket camera. I bought the Voightlander 17.5, 42.5 lenses and while I really like them, I kind of regret it because now I'm stuck with a very limited choice of cameras.

I'm fine with this setup as something to use for situations where there's no budget to rent gear and I really like how compact everything is. But, in the end I just don't want to spend anymore money on lenses that I can't use on other cameras I might upgrade to in the future.

If I'm spending $1,000-$2,000 on a lens, I'd rather buy an adaptor so I can use it with different cameras.

August 17, 2015 at 4:07PM

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Julian Faras
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A camera is often a brief affair but a lens can be a long term relationship.

August 18, 2015 at 2:41AM

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Julian Richards
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Larger format lenses would cost a lot more and would not be as fast at the same focal lengths. Unless you plan on giving up on the Micro 4/3 format, why does it matter that your lenses won't fit other formats ?

If I bought the Sony A7S Full Frame camera I would be using different focal lengths that would not work with my GH4 camera, so I would still have to buy two sets of lenses in the end. One set for my GH4 and another set for the A7S. Sure there would be some over-lap with the longer focal length lenses, but the wide angle lenses would need to be native to the Micro 4/3 format.

August 18, 2015 at 7:34AM

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Guy McLoughlin
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Here is a short doc that Magnanimous Media shot with GH4 and Veydra Primes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uyZWWY9gMw

August 17, 2015 at 10:13AM, Edited August 17, 10:13AM

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Thanks for sharing that, I'm actually the one who edited it. We (Magnanimous) have a second Veydra/GH4 video as well if anyone is interested. (Not sure what link posting etiquette is like here, so I'll just say you can find it on our YT page if you want).

August 17, 2015 at 6:01PM

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Trevor Betts
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curious to see how much vignetting there is on the S35 coverage....

August 17, 2015 at 11:29AM, Edited August 17, 11:29AM

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seanmclennan
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