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See the Slider PLUS+, Edelkrone's Reinvented Slider, in Action

12.22.12 @ 7:06PM Tags : , ,

Filmmaking equipment maker edelkrone recently unveiled their reinvented slider, the Slider PLUS+, and they showed off a brief animated clip giving you a sense of what it could do. Now we’ve got a real-life video of the slider in action with a DSLR, and the results are impressive for such a tiny device. Click through to check out the video.

First, here is the introduction video if you missed it:

The Slider PLUS+ in real life:

I don’t think there is a question now that it does exactly what they said it would do, and it looks like the movements are as smooth as any other slider out there. Unless you’ve got a truly miserable tripod, this looks like it will be very steady, even on something like a slightly more heavy-duty photography tripod. Some people were wondering what the point of such a small slider is when the tripod they are using is so big, but really, this applies to any piece of gear. Anything that can be smaller and lighter and still provide the same functionality makes sense.

Right now the Slider PLUS+ is $500, and the first limited shipment will begin on January 4th, with more after that.

What do you think of the Slider PLUS+ now after seeing more than just a CGI model?

Link: edelkrone Slider PLUS+

[via DSLR News Shooter]

Disclosure: edelkrone is a NoFilmSchool advertiser.


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  • This product had me confused and still does, but it does look like its going to turn out rather awesome. The way it functions seems to add a degree of smoothness into the shots that a normal slider doesn’t.

  • Simon Falkentorp on 12.22.12 @ 7:14PM

    I wonder how stable it is in its outer positions.

  • The CGI made it look bigger than it is. This latest video shows that it’s small and the entire unit slides, laterally extending beyond its physical limitations. Small is good, should be OK with the Three Legged Thing. Shipping and insurance brings the price up significantly. Looks like it comes directly from Turkey.

  • They do have the SHIP-MY-EDELKRONE christmas promotion code and you can knock of that shipping cost. I saved around $110.

  • Assuming a rock-steady tripod, I wonder how it will perform with anything more than a camera and tiny monitor on top of it — are there any weight limitations that the company is citing?

    • Someone commented in the other post that the weight limit is 10 pounds, but I haven’t confirmed that myself.

    • DSLR News Shooter reported a weight limit of 7.25 kg (15.9 lbs).
      The product itself weighs 1.7 kg (3.7 lbs), the same as a Blackmagic Cinema Camera.

      • I was on the lookout for a short slider I could attach to a tripod almost permanently, this is probably not it then.. I assume my rig is over 10 pounds and I definitely want a little reserve there..

  • The slider seems pricy when compared to other sliders that are much longer. But it does have impressive engineering… I just received my FocusOne last week and I am really damned impressed by it. I took it with me on a shoot and the DP quickly tossed the Zacuto (that cost $1000 more) aside and said he preferred the Edelkrone by a lot.

    I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt with this one.

  • I’m not concerned about weight as long term cameras are becoming lighter and smaller. A sturdy tripod like a Miller will be important. I agree it’s a great deal especially with free shipping if you order now. Edelkrone are producing awesome well made video equipment.

  • Love the design and their products look very good. Posted on the YT video as well – does anyone else see a ramp up in speed in every move? Speed looks fairly constant and about as smooth as other sliders, but then I see a kick in speed towards the end of the move. Might just be me…

  • I like to see the stops and starts on slider reels. Cut in late and get out early and I feel like I’m not seeing the true performance. Especially on the outer limits of the extension with a model like this. But I think it’s a nifty piece of kit and really love of you can get confirmation on that weight limit Joe?

  • Anybody know what song that is in the video?

    • Two Door Cinema Club – Something Good Can Work (The Twelves Remix)

      You definitely want to listen to the remix version, as used in the video, as the original song sounds pretty awful (to me at least).

  • Why do people keep saying this is expensive? Considering the only slider that works as it should (from my experience) are the Ronford heavy duty ones, for which the day-rate is close to the purchase price for this.

    Of it works, it’s amazing value in my book.

  • I was cautiously optimistic but unconvinced by the intro – but this footage is very impressive to me. Seems to work, and on a not-too-big tripod.

    Edelkrone is definitely producing the most interestingly-engineered gear on the market right now. It’s good to see someone innovating.

  • for me personally, i’ve found with all sliders, my hands really aren’t as steady as id like.. especially when you begin to put on heavier rigs so i’m really waiting to see how the motor works as an add on attachment :)

  • DIYFilmSchool on 12.24.12 @ 8:17AM

    The factor that makes this far more versatile than other sliders is that it virtually removes the human element when doing the actual move.

    It may be the techno-nerd in me, but aside from its motorization and lack of actual personal involvement, I would say use something else. I’ll probably end up buying it when the time is right. $500 is a bit of money to devote to this piece of gear, especially since my cinematic style rarely requires slides.

  • to me, the slider looks promising!
    for run and gunners, the smaller form factor that can still slide a good length is WIN WIN!
    only thing is, do you need a tripod all the time if you were to use it?

    • Interesting point — I don’t see any feet on it, so I wonder if you could put it on the ground/floor if you needed to? Actually, judging by the way it seems to work, I think the answer is an obvious “no” — you would almost certainly need to mount it on something. Hmmm . . . that would make it a little less versatile than I first thought.

  • this video is not available in germany.

  • Ok, I’ve been using this slider for about a month now. In case it’s of use to anyone, I thought I might point out some of its deficiencies.

    But firstly it’s plusses: it does what it says on the box. It’s compact. You can stow it in a laptop bag when you’re travelling by plane (airlines generally allow you one piece of carry-on, and one laptop bag or handbag). It does most jobs fine. And to some extent it allows you to do straight dolly ins and dolly outs (but, after you have the ability, do you really want to use it? Don’t slider moves look more interesting when there’s a little bit of an angle?).

    Now, some minuses:

    (1) the rollers rust. I’ve taken it outside, into seaside areas, but haven’t subjected it much to the elements at all. I’ve sprayed some WD40 on it, trying to remove the rust, but haven’t been entirely successful. A friend suggests the rollers were pre-made parts that Edelkrone purchased from somewhere and were designed for different conditions, not for taking into the open air.

    (2) There is a slight bump as the slider travels over the centre. I’m uncertain as yet why… Possibly something to do with the belt.

    (3) It’s unsuitable for placing on grass; the grass blades interfere too much with the slider action; maybe legs could be designed to lift the slider further off the ground? You can place it on concrete or any flat surface of course.

    (4) The locking mechanism is: you push up a bit of metal that sits between two rollers and physically prevents the slider from moving on the track. This is irritating for two reasons. Firstly, you can only lock the movement when the sliding part is dead centre, but I often find I want to lock the slider in other positions along the track as well. Secondly, it’s very easy to push the lock all the way up, or all the way down, touching the tripod. In either case, it’s very hard to get your finger into the gap to move the lock again. You need to wedge a piece of metal or a key in there to move it.

    (5) This is something not everyone will care about, but I sometimes attach straps to my sliders (I have a Cinevate and Konova slider also) so I can sling them from my shoulder while my hands are busy with something else. I do a lot of event shooting. But with the SliderPlus, there are no holes on the ends of the slider to which you can attach a strap or a rope, etc.

    • By the way, I’ve also posted these comments to Edelkrone, so hopefully the next iteration of the slider will be improved in these respects.

      • Do you think the design of the Edelkrone slider is better? If they made these design improvements, would you prefer it over the Konova and Cinevate sliders?

        • Hey Sathya, the design is very ingenious. And I should also say that it doesn’t see-saw when centre-mounted on a tripod — no more than any other slider I’ve used, though I was worried it might. The build is robust. The future accessories that, if I understand rightly, Edelkrone has planned for this are very interesting also, including the target module. I think the Edelkrone slider is well worth the price for the advantage of being compact — which not only means it’s more portable, but if you’re shooting an event there’s less chance of hitting innocent people!

          I do own a Cinevate and Konova slider as well (never used Kessler or any other brand). The Cinevate is a basic model. Compared to those… Well, they have some problems as well. My Cinevate currently has problems with the rollers not gripping the track properly, so that one direction rolls smoothly but there’s friction going the other way. I’ve taken it apart and tweaked the tightening screws, and this seems to solve the problem in the short run, but I haven’t yet worked out how to do it permanently. It also is more difficult to put on/take off the fluid head than the Edelkrone. Not sure why; something to do with the screw. Konova definitely seems less robust than Cinevate and Edelkrone. For instance, if I remember properly, there’s little cushioning feet stuck to the ends, and these can easily fall off.

          Edelkrone offers more features than my other sliders. For instance, apart from the main receding track feature, you can adjust the resistance of the slide. Costs a little more than the others also. The Konova allegedly can be used in a vertical configuration, but I’ve done this about once. Steadicam or crane are much more straightforward tools for this purpose.

          In terms of the sliding action… Not sure how to compare. When they work, they’re probably more or less equally smooth. Just that slight bump in the middle of the Edelkrone slide that worries me. Need to investigate and work out why this is…

        • The short reply is “yes”. I would prefer it over my other sliders if the design were improved slightly. At the moment I rarely use my Konova, and for most jobs use either Edelkrone or Cinevate, depending on how portable I want to be, and if there is any need to place the slider on the ground.

        • By the way, that “bump” in the middle seems to have got worse over time. Was fighting the slider all morning today when I was shooting an event, and eventually gave up on it.

          Did a quick net search, and it seems I’m not the only one to have found a bump: ‘Concerning the operation of the unit, I also discerned a noticeable bump when the carriage moved over the center of the slider. With the help of a friend I learned that holding the handle of the fluid head firmly while sliding rather than merely pushing the camera side to side practically eliminated any “bump”. The unevenness was more pronounced when moving the camera toward the subject than side to side.’ —

          Another issue I want to mention about the slider, in addition to the ones above — it’s quite easy to lose the feet that come with it. They fairly easily unscrew and fall out.