July 18, 2013

New SliderPLUS V2 from edelkrone Improves on the Original Reinvented Slider

sliderplus-v2-mediumHow do you make a slider smaller and more portable without losing travel distance? That's exactly what edelkrone figured out how to do with their SliderPLUS, and they are now introducing a brand new version called the SliderPLUS V2 that aims to improve on many aspects of the original, while still providing small size and long travel. Check out some videos showing off the new V2 slider below, and if you order it or any other edelkrone items by today, there is free shipping worldwide.

Here are some test shots and the behind the scenes:

Here's what's new in the V2 version:

EASIER LOCKING MECHANISM
Moving with a slider setup on the set can be tricky (and even dangerous) so locking it has to be fast and simple. That's what we did with the new SliderPLUS.

MOUNTING BOUNDARY? NOT ANYMORE
The New SliderPLUS comes with 1/4'' to 3/8'' converters, providing changeable mounting options.Thus, you can now mount both types of tripods to SliderPLUS.

THE NEW DESIGN
The new SliderPLUS is designed with esthetics in mind. So it fits and looks better in your production environment. Color change, hidden wheels, more unified look...

EVEN MORE SILENT
Delrin wheels working on aluminum rails give more silent and smoother results which is crucial for many productions.

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The SliderPLUS V2 comes in two versions: small and medium. The small V2 is 1.3 feet long and will run you $500, while the medium V2 is 2 feet long and costs $600. There isn't another slider on the market quite like this design, and assuming they've worked out some of the kinks from the original design, this should be another interesting option to add to your kit.

Again, if you order by today, edelkrone will ship worldwide completely free. You can read more about the slider over on their website, and also check out all of the other gear they make.

Link: SliderPLUS V2 -- edelkrone

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41 Comments

What the hell Edelkrone! Where is the XL version with 3 ft? I was considering buying one before this version and it had a longer travel range.

July 18, 2013 at 2:33PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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I did buy one.. about 3 weeks before they made the announcement and now I'de prefer the upgrade..

July 19, 2013 at 12:38PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Brenton

I was watching a cinematography video on YouTube and the "instructor" just placed a camera on a pile of books and moved it across the table. That's your practical slider.

July 18, 2013 at 2:35PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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DLD

That's why I bring a table and a pile of books with you everywhere I shoot.

July 18, 2013 at 3:08PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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steve

Ruler and eraser are recommended for optimum results.

July 18, 2013 at 3:39PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Edgar

Cute but, as I have mentioned in a different comment, you can buy a 36 foot rubber track and a light tripod dolly for about $350 on eBay and have a far greater range of movement for your shoot without sacrificing the desired portability.

Something like this : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Portable-Camera-Dolly-36ft-Rubber-Flex-Track-crane-/111107215594?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19de8190ea

And, if/when you don't need 15-20 feet of movement, you can just pack a shorter track. You'd still have more options for a lot less. Major outlets sell basically the same type of a device for more but it's still a rubber hose and a tripod dolly.

July 18, 2013 at 7:41PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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DLD

You're missing the point of this product.

July 19, 2013 at 7:17PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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steve

Paying for this just seems ridiculous. I have a 20' dolly track with a cart and handles for an operator to push that I had built for $300, and most of that was labor that I was charged.. You can build your own slider with some skateboard wheels, screws, and pvc pipe for under $50 that's extendable and collapsible. Part of me thinks that companies that make stuff this expensive are half con artists/half fools, but I know there are people who are thoughtless enough to buy these.

July 18, 2013 at 3:05PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Angelo

Yes, either thoughtless people or working professionals who appreciate well designed and compact tools that allow them to get more shots in less time, thus making considerably more money than the cost of said products.

July 18, 2013 at 6:55PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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+1

July 19, 2013 at 3:11AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Frank

Their stuff is not cheap but they are Steve Jobs-like with their innovation and approach to quality. Too expensive for me so, yeah, I'd have to settle for a cheaper option like the hose and dolly, etc. But I'm glad guys like this are doing what they do because they're actually improving technology and that will eventually filter through to the lower price ranges in some form. And if I'm more successful in the future then I'd snap up some of this cool gear. And I'd certainly hire this stuff from a rental house.

July 26, 2013 at 4:31AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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ADC

you can also drill a hole in a shoe box and put one pulley on each side with a rubber chain on the middle (connected to a bike crank). then you can tape together 50 rolls of 35mm film (do it in a dark room)*, stick it inside the box, plug it into the rubber chain using paper clips and make sure you line up the film with the hole you drilled. There you go... The-50$-35mm-pinhole-variable frame rate-in your face ARRI-film camera...

next DIY will cover DIT, Telecine, Editing and Color Grading on the cheap (using just a tupperware, bleach, tape and scissors and a Commodore Amiga)

* - for a cheap "dark room" I suggest closing the door and turning off the lights in a regular bathroom.

July 19, 2013 at 5:56AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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best reply I think I've ever read

July 19, 2013 at 12:41PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Brenton

LOL !!
I like it when things get a bit humourous over here

July 20, 2013 at 8:31AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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pask

That was hilarious, my thoughts exactly on all the "you could just do THIS though!"

WHY THE HECK WOULD YOU SPEND $150 ON WINDOWS? USING SOME C++ YOU CAN JUST DESIGN YOUR OWN WINDOWS 7 FOR FREE!!

July 25, 2013 at 3:40PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Andrew

The minimalistic design of this slider will allow for quick portability in the wedding business. Speaking from experience, you have to be all over the place, having a huge slider to lug around is a hassle, but something like this is practical and convenient. Any PVC slider made at home, will not only look unprofessional but also waste a lot of time with set up and break down.

The sliderplus is a bit expensive, but for someone who needs a good slider that is small and unobtrusive, this is the perfect slider for that. I'd buy it.

July 18, 2013 at 3:13PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Ray

I've tried the DIY dolly and it works well (my friend is very good at building stuff). It works for certain shoots but you need more crew, not just someone to push/pull but someone else to be on the lookout for people walking by (on micro productions) etc. I bought a slider from amazon and it works well but is bulky and is definitely a pain at weddings with tons of people and children running around. I could see paying for something like this if its smooth and easy to use. Being compact is a major major plus!

DIY stuff is fun for experiments and personal projects but when I'm being paid to capture live events that I can't retake I need somewhat pro tools I can rely on when things don't go according to plan.

July 18, 2013 at 8:43PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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KingAtRock

You can build a slider that works just like this for very little and that doesn't require much if any in the way of setup. You can build it to almost the exact same specs as this.

Enjoy spending thousands of dollars on dollies and sliders. I prefer the thing where you can problem solve so that you can focus more on technology you need and improving your videos.

Actually, I'm selling sliders just like this, but for $400. Interested in buying one?

July 18, 2013 at 4:13PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Angelo

Yes I am, please provide information

July 18, 2013 at 4:20PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Ziggy

Why are you even complaining about this? This is clearly not for you. You obviously value cost over quality, reliability or context. This is clearly aimed at videographers who have to travel light and it more than pays for itself assuming it works well. I really don't get some of the posters on this blog - like little children whining about things that aren't meant for them.

July 18, 2013 at 4:24PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Space Captain

I don't have to lose any reliability or portability with a home built slider or dolly. Some quality, yes, in that the pvc pipes can probably break more easily, but guess how much pvc pipe costs? I could probably by 1000 feet of pvc pipe for less than what this slider costs. Skateboard wheels are going to be your most expensive item.

July 18, 2013 at 4:39PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Angelo

I also don't get those types of comments. These types of tools are investments that I can earn back in 1 wedding and have better footage than before for all future shoots! And I can carry it easily on top of all my other gear. PVC warps in the hot sun and the tracks sometimes don't align right, you need more space to carry them around and extra crew. Impossible to use at a wedding or a run and gun situation. That's the target audience and I think $600 for quality and reliability is a deal.

July 18, 2013 at 8:48PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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KingAtRock

You can build a slider that has twice the travel distance of its length and operates from a single tripod with motion control and auto panning modules from PVC and skateboard wheels? I've got to see this. Please share.

July 18, 2013 at 7:01PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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July 18, 2013 at 6:12PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Fresno Bob

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July 18, 2013 at 8:19PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Ramaatis

I bought their v1 2 months ago. Can you image the bearings get rusty in the humidity of Hong Kong? Not so good investment to me.

July 18, 2013 at 9:16PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Jason

I received my V1 4 weeks ago and dealing with "wobble" defect. Now Edelkrone wants another $100 dollars to exchange it for the newer design that resolves the "wobble" or "bump" issue. They have lost me as a customer.

July 18, 2013 at 9:45PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Dan Barr

I've left a lot of comments in the Nofilmschool post about version 1.

Among the defects of version 1:
-- the rollers rust
-- there is a small bump in the middle (I believe Edelkrone are aware of this issue).

I'm very hesitant to purchase version 2 unless I know these problems are resolved. The bump is particularly worrisome. Certainly usable, even with the bump, but still frustrating.

What's the main thing you want from any slider? A smooth ride, right?

July 19, 2013 at 2:08AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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I would have thought that purchases of the flawed V1 should be able to trade in for this one?
If not, it's not to good for Eldekrone's cred

July 19, 2013 at 3:21AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Fresno Bob

Another thought... and I've posted this comment on the DSLR News Shooter site... but I'm definitely a bit grumpy with Edelkrone at the moment.

Main dissatisfaction is that, in my opinion (feel free to disagree, anyone), version 1 was not fully baked before they took it out of the oven. (This just goes to show, by the way, that companies like Red, Black Magic and Zacuto are probably right in choosing to make people wait for their products rather than release something that's not quite ready for prime time.)

The rusty rollers, the inconvenient locking mechanism, the lack of usability on grass, and, especially, basic defects like the bump in middle of the slide, or, in the case of my slider, one roller not even gripping the track properly -- I think these are all issues that a reasonable person would expect would have been resolved before first release, especially for something of this price range and from a company this well established.

Slider is certainly usable, as I keep saying. And it's beautifully portable -- I've flown with it, and it does what it says on the box. But I think that, collectively, the problems with version 1 amounted to serious enough defects that people quite likely would not have purchased the slider had they known about the issues.

While I'm on a rant, there are design defects in the DSLR pocket rig as well, though I think it's pretty cool. Things like the screws that you loosen/tighten to extend the bracing arm -- it's not the best long-term solution, is it? Mine keep slipping at any rate. The brace on the end of the arm has fallen off and had to be screwed on, after a month of use. The screws that you undo to extend the rods are a somewhat silly system -- should you really need a handtool each time you want to take out the rods or securely put them back?

July 19, 2013 at 6:25AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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This is really helpful feedback. I was eyeing version 1 for a while but didn't pull the trigger. Now I'm anxious to see how these issues get addressed.

July 19, 2013 at 11:32AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Just writing to take back some of what I've written.

Okay, for the record, Edelkrone has a number of videos on their site in the support area that discuss how to address the problems with slider smoothness -- including the bump, the wobble, and any general lack of smoothness. Tips include: using a 3mm allen key to loosen and adjust/tighten the two trolleys; making sure tracks are clean; using a little bit of resistance for a smoother ride; making the camera a little front heavy rather than balanced for a smoother ride.

An important note: the wobble is supposed to be there for optimum performance.

In terms of upgrading, Fresno Bob is correct -- if you email them asking about a trade-in, they'll let you trade in the shorter sliderplus if you pay the shipping charges and another $100, and the sliderplus xl for $200.

July 21, 2013 at 3:32PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Apparently, if you email them you get this back:

Upgrade to SliderPLUS V2 Small and Medium: Free + Return Charges

SliderPLUS+ owners are responsible for the return charges to our return point below;

Yigit Sener (Please do not state as edelkrone or something else, please state only as Yigit Sener for the receiver)

Brezinova 451/21
Praha-8 Karlin 186 00
Prague / Czech Republic

Trade-in products are shipped within maximum 90 days. When we are ready for the shipment of your product, we will inform you via email.

Then you can return your sliderPLUS to our return point and provide us tracking ID.
When we receive the tracking ID, we will ship your new product.

Once shipped, you will be provided your tracking ID via email. It takes 2-3 days for DHL to deliver the product worldwide.

July 19, 2013 at 7:50AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Fresno Bob

Bob, thanks very much for the info. I'll look into it and post back here my experiences, and some comments on the version 2 (if they allow a trade in... and assuming the NFS mods don't delete my comments... grr!).

July 19, 2013 at 8:50PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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This company is genius.

I am all about portability and quick setup. These sliders blow anything by Kessler Crane out of the water.
The "Pocket Rig" is also incredible.

July 19, 2013 at 11:32AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Ian

I bought v1 two months ago. Loved it on the first shoot. Hated it on the second shoot when I found rust all over the bearings (I'm in humid Singapore) and the bump in the middle and the bearings had gotten loose just from using it. I was really very pissed off. Then I was even more pissed off when I saw they had come out with an upgrade right after I bought mine. So I contacted them. They are giving me a free upgrade if I pay shipping of the old one to them. I think that's fair. I'm still upset that such a nice v1 product got screwed up and I have high hopes for v2. I do find their products really well thought out and very well built, but with design flaws that cause problems. I have problems with my FocusOne and my ShoulderRig. They are still great, but require some patience. let's see if they've fixed all the bugs with slider v2. I love the portability and the short length but long ride. Great for hotels where you don't want to see the slider in the shot for dolly in moves. Love that.

July 25, 2013 at 3:28PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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I ordered the long version of the slider and after two weeks decided not to keep it. Every time the camera goes over the middle part of the slider I was able to notice a bump not smooth pass. Also the one screw on the middle of the slider did not allow me to position the cemara on any angles that I was looking for. This product was not for me.

July 25, 2013 at 4:22PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Hi Al , Alex and Paper_bag,

We highly value your feedback regarding our products and services.

We wholeheartedly apologise for any inconvenience for any issues relating to your purchased edelkrone products. As a main company policy we are always standing by our products and any issues relating to them. We would be glad to provide assistance and resolve any issues relating to our products.

Please feel free to contact our sales team via info@edelkrone.com and we will get back to you as soon as possible.

Best Regards

edelkrone Team

October 12, 2013 at 3:39AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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I ordered the long version of the slider and after two weeks decided not to keep it. Every time the camera goes over the middle part of the slider I was able to notice a bump not smooth pass. Also the one screw on the middle of the slider did not allow me to position the camera on any angles that I was looking for. This product was not for me.

July 25, 2013 at 4:23PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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I also had rusty wheels and a change of resistance going over the central portion of the slider. I tried everything in their instructional videos to resolve the issues but to no avail. They are nice and fairly responsive over email. I finally shipped the product back to me and they are in the process of shipping me v2 for free as promised. Since it cost $100 to ship the old one back, let's hope that I didn't just throw away more money on a defective product. I'll report back here. Hopefully I'll be happy!

August 7, 2013 at 4:13AM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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Mine v2 slider (small) is finally shipping. Unfortunately I won't be able to see it till August 17th because I'm out of town. Look forward to trying it out! Anyone else get it yet?

August 7, 2013 at 3:16PM, Edited September 4, 11:21AM

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