July 16, 2014

The Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera Is Now $500 Cheaper (This Summer Only)

Blackmagic Pocket Cinema CameraOf the myriad cinema-style cameras that have hit the market over the past year, none are as inexpensive or have as tiny of a form-factor as the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera. Add to that the camera's 13 stops of dynamic range and internal ProRes/CinemaDNG recording, and it seems like one hell of a bargain at $995. As most of you know, Blackmagic has a distinct history of reducing prices on their cinema cameras, and they've done it once again -- at least for the time being -- with the BMPCC. For the next month and a half, you'll be able to snag one of these little cameras for only $495.

First, here's a brief snippet from the Blackmagic Design press release that explains the price drop, and for how long you'll be able take advantage of the new price.

Blackmagic Design today announced an exciting Summer Special discount for the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera for the low price of US$495. With a normal recommended retail price of US$995, this Summer Special represents incredible value and is available for a limited time and will end on the 31st of August 2014. This Summer Special price is subject to limited availability, after which the price will return to the usual recommended retail price of US$995.

Ultimately, this is an absolutely tremendous deal for a camera with an impressive feature set. Even though the BMPCC was already the most affordable way to get into professional video codecs like ProRes and RAW, it's now so mind-blowingly inexpensive that now would be the perfect time to invest in one as a B-cam or crash cam for larger projects or as something small for when you're traveling.

You can take advantage of the new pricing at any of the Blackmagic resellers like B&H.

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Wow, awesome deal. Thanks for posting.

July 16, 2014 at 1:54PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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SOLD! Now I can afford to buy all the batteries and expensive SD cards that are required to work with it. I'd imagine the inventory will sell out really fast at this price.

July 16, 2014 at 1:58PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Julian

Yet another new camera at IBC then?

July 16, 2014 at 2:01PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Just shot a series of short travel documentaries in Finland/Norway & Iceland with the BMPCC such a great bit of gear. But I defiantly forked out a chunk of coin for the listless amount of accessories, this should make it alot more appealing knowing you can spend that extra 500 on the metabones booster

July 16, 2014 at 2:03PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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They doing this with UK resellers? I can't seem to find any under £600!

July 16, 2014 at 2:05PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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mike

http://www.videogear.co.uk/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=4789

Seems they are a bit slower than their American counterparts at updating the price.

July 16, 2014 at 2:14PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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CoolHandLuque

cheers :)

July 16, 2014 at 3:19PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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mike

Yeah CVP are doing it

July 19, 2014 at 1:50PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Debs Pursey

Thank you so much for this news!!!!

July 16, 2014 at 2:09PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Michal

Do you know any european reseller with such price now?

July 16, 2014 at 2:10PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Andrea

PhotoCineRent in Paris. I don't know if they do online sales, but they posted on their facebook page that they are doing the pricing.

July 16, 2014 at 3:32PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Pat

here in spain.... www.masquevideo.com they already posted this new price... 380 Euros + VAT (here is called IVA)

July 16, 2014 at 4:56PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Jesuan

Her is a list of resellers, no european resellers yet!

http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicpocketcinemacamera/ho...

July 16, 2014 at 2:16PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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David Anthony

Well, I just got a new camera.

July 16, 2014 at 2:22PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Bill

Just got mine. never intended to buy one, but for that price... it's silly

July 16, 2014 at 2:29PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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ivan noel

Here is a European reseller that has updated their prices:
http://www.photocineshop.com/fr/products/Blackmagic-Pocket-Cinema-Camera...

July 16, 2014 at 2:34PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Al

I am massively resisting buying this for the heck of it, I know I am being sold to with this deal. I'm very suspicious, it just seems to good to be true...

July 16, 2014 at 2:35PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Matt

I am a pro videomaker expanding into the dslr market... 1500 budget... Looking at the Canon 70d or the Blackmagic Cinema Pocket camera... Both have really good deals at the moment... Any insights are appreciated!

July 16, 2014 at 2:45PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Two things I would keep in mind are crop factor, and mount type. I've loved living in the world of M43 since the GH2, but I have to admit there are times I wish I could get full-frame wide shots. 70D isn't full frame, granted, but it's still wider than the crazy 2.8 crop of the BMPC. Of course, the flip side is that it's easier to achieve a telephoto FOV with cropped.

Another thing to keep in mind with BMPC specifically, is that there's no formatting of the card on-camera (yet), and you have to use a very specific sandisk (64g 95mbs extreme I think) to shoot raw.

All that said, the BMPC is pretty incredible, and I think I'm jumping on getting another at this crazy price. First time buyers (especially those who own Canon glass) should consider throwing in the Metabones EF to BMPC adapter with the savings on this deal.

July 16, 2014 at 2:57PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Benjamin Dewhurst
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Please provide a link to the Metabones EF to MFT adapter. Thanks!

July 16, 2014 at 3:18PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Ah, the Speed Booster, got it.

July 16, 2014 at 3:28PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Hi Benjamin,

Will a Speedbooster that works on the GH2 work on the BMPCC?

July 16, 2014 at 5:26PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Sathya

yes, because both use a MFT mount, it will work. The BMPCC version just happens to boost more

July 16, 2014 at 6:31PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Chris

Not just that, the BMCC/BMPCC speedboosters also address to the sensor stack difference issues the regular MFT speedbooster had in BM cameras.

July 17, 2014 at 5:55AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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MiguelFranco

Gah! I JUST bought a used BMPCC for 860.00. This is the kind of news that really stings, sometimes... On the bright side, this likely means a new BMPCC is being announced soon. Crossing my fingers for 4K.

July 16, 2014 at 2:53PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Yeah, I know. I just got mine last month. :-/

July 16, 2014 at 4:36PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Rodrigo Molinsky

Get a refund from your seller, im getting a second BMPCC now because of this...

July 16, 2014 at 8:16PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Alex

Maybe its silly question but do you think there will still be some bmpcc at the end of august for this price? I hope its just dont "sold out". What do you think?

July 16, 2014 at 2:57PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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marekm.

I am pretty sure B&H will be sold out tonight.
This happened last time around when they had a crazy sale on the 2.5 classic last summer.
Almost around the same time if I think about it ...

July 16, 2014 at 3:44PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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16

Yes, but they can Re-stock, no? Anyway BH are not only one sellers

July 16, 2014 at 3:50PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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marekm.

Already out of stock at B&H. I'm sure they'll restock soon.

July 16, 2014 at 6:04PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Alex

Adorama is backordered as well. Luckily I got my order in before that !!!

July 16, 2014 at 8:26PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Pat

So glad i just sold mine and replaced it with a gh4. Id be SO SO fucking pissed if they did this before i was able to get rid of it for closer to full price! It was barely used!

July 16, 2014 at 3:51PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Jeremy D

You probably sold yours to Darren! LOL

July 16, 2014 at 7:45PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Ian

Ahahaha would not be suprised!

July 17, 2014 at 6:52AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Jeremy D

Thanks to the Panasonic GH4 everyone is dropping there prices, I don't blame them the GH4 is a monster camera for $1700, thank you panasonic.....

July 16, 2014 at 4:02PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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max

+1

July 16, 2014 at 4:09PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Archie

Eventhough BMD has a track record of dropping the price of their cameras (from $3,000 to $2,000 for the original BMCC) ... I'm pretty sure whatever pricing BMD has is completely independent of what Panasonic is doing.

July 16, 2014 at 4:18PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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CoolHandLuque

You dont think companys concider the competition when pricing products?

July 18, 2014 at 1:50AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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M

it shoots compressed 8 bit video, its not in the same league as a blackmagic

have fun shooting weddings you little scrub

July 16, 2014 at 5:17PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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john jeffries

The Panasonic GH4 can do 10bit 4:2:2 and it's A LOT sharper and free of moiré and aliasing. Yes, it's not in the same league as the BMPCC – it's better. I own both of them...

July 16, 2014 at 5:26PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Godspeed

10bit 4:2:2 externally is not 12 bit RAW internally

i guess its a good camera if you have a lazy workflow and your clients don't really demand anything cinematic or compelling

July 16, 2014 at 5:38PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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john jeffries

Tell me more about how only 12 bit raw can be cinematic and compelling, you obviously have far surpassed my meager knowledge of framing and composition and story. I had no idea the only way to make my story compelling was to shoot raw, all these years I've wasted on light and script redrafting and all those other unnecessary sideshows to the real meaning of true cinema.

July 16, 2014 at 6:20PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Jp

The beautiful color science and extra color bit-depth brings a prestige of quality reminiscent to film that 8 bit lacks with its empty skin tones and banding.

You can tell a story on anything, no argument there. I'll just wish your story was shot on something better than a gh4.

July 16, 2014 at 7:03PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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vincegortho

Whoah! When he was like...

"The beautiful color science yadda prestige of quality reminiscent to film yadda empty skin tones and banding."

I was all yeah, banding, and prestige of quality like film. I don't want your empty, 8-bit Super Mario Bros. skin tones. Even the Sega Genesis was 16 bit, what is this, like 1997?

But then, he was like...

"I’ll just wish your story was shot on something better than a gh4."

And I was like, You did not just go there, oh no, you didn't. You did NOT just go there.

I can't wait to see what the other guy says back! LAWZ :P

July 17, 2014 at 2:01AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Derek

Me too!

July 17, 2014 at 2:48AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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VinceGortho

Best comment ever.

July 18, 2014 at 1:53AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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M

You have a gift...

July 18, 2014 at 2:42AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Steve

If you we're after the prize for rudeness, you got it.

July 16, 2014 at 7:16PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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How is a gh4 better. Less color bit depth. Less dynamic range. Lower performing low-light. And a video looking color science. .... but it's got 4k, right!

July 16, 2014 at 6:55PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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vincegortho

LOL, that was fun to hear.

July 16, 2014 at 9:45PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Paul

The panasonic gh4 can hdmi output 10bit 422 4k and do 4k internally in 8bit. Your right, not even the same league...blackmagic has some work to do

July 27, 2014 at 4:09PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Jeremy D

That price just sealed the deal for me! Just order one from EVS in CA. They don't have them in stock yet, they said that their expecting a large shipment this week and expect to ship by Friday.

July 16, 2014 at 4:09PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Just bought Mine! :D

July 16, 2014 at 4:12PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Z-Axis

I am sold. Even if I'll use it as an extra angle someday somewhere!

July 16, 2014 at 4:13PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Saadawi

This is no doubt an amazing deal, but I still can't help but suspect that this is a closeout for a higher spec'd model. Either way, you really can't go wrong at this price.

July 16, 2014 at 4:19PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Marc B

Keep in mind a year or so ago when the 2.5K BMCC dropped in price there was speculation that a version 2 would be coming out shortly there after. After a year, there is still no BMCC mark2. I honestly believe BMD are just insane individuals who are trying to get the highest quality out into the hands of the public at a truly affordable price.

July 16, 2014 at 4:25PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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CoolHandLuque

:)

July 16, 2014 at 4:41PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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alex

holly shittt i want one..

July 16, 2014 at 4:33PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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seba

Well, I just ordered it. Pretty stoked to learn this gear...and just in time for some travels in the fall!

July 16, 2014 at 4:41PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Pat

Had anyone tested the AF on pocket camera with firmware 1.8? Has it improved a lot? Can be useful when shooting casually without the need to manual focus while walking along a market or something on vacation?

July 16, 2014 at 4:50PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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kai

If you use a Panasonic Lumix lens, then yes, the AF is OK. With the latest 1.8 firmware, stabilisation works on any OIS lens, not just ones with a switch, so handheld is now actually OK and not a mad jitterfest.

The new FCP X update adds optional, automatic LUTs to correct for BMD Film (and a softer BMD Film 4K) too, so grading has never been easier.

July 16, 2014 at 7:37PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Bought mine at lunch today, did a quick bit of shooting back at the office, and did some grading in Lightroom. I seriously love this camera! I love the control I have with my raw photos, and to now have that for video is freaking amazing!

It definitely needs to be kitted up for proper shooting, at least stuck on a tripod. I shot completely bare handheld, and it was very wobbly in that lightweight-camera amateur video way (shooting with my EF 28mm f1.8). It's a little better at the wide end with the 24-105 f/4. I've got some Redrock Micro parts laying around, so I'll probably play around with rigging something up tonight.

The crop factor is definitely going to take some getting used to. I primarily shoot with a 5DIII, so going from the crazy wide full frame (actually too wide for video for my taste; I much prefer super 35) is definitely a challenge. Also having no electronic control of my canon lenses (for the time being) will also take a little getting used to.

The metabones speed booster is going to be a must-have for this camera, I think.

But wow do I love the footage I've shot with the camera already! Just my completely unplanned run & gun shots look great, especially after having real grading control!

July 16, 2014 at 5:01PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Curious to know why you would use the BMPCC to shoot raw rather than your 5DIII? Thanks

July 17, 2014 at 5:18PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Andrew

Assuming you run magic lantern on your 5D that is..

July 17, 2014 at 5:20PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Andrew

I don't run magic lantern. The 5DIII belongs to the organization I work for, not me, so I'm not going to mess with the camera's firmware.

July 22, 2014 at 2:56PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Those of you who own a BMPCC: would this camera be usable by an "amateur" in a run-and-gun situation? I ask because I seriously need to replace my DVX100B which I use for special corporate events where employees make their own fake commercials (I have other cameras for Pro work). The DVX has been dead simple for most people to operate, just wondering if the BMPCC is easy enough to use and has decent autofocus and exposure settings -- or would I most likely wind up with a lot of blurry, shaky, underexposed footage?

July 16, 2014 at 5:10PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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John K.

Not the best camera for run-and-gun due to rolling shutter and limited battery life. Best for situations where it can be on a tripod w/ house power, though that defeats it's portability. The camera is definitely easy to use. The reason why I use it is its incredible latitude and dynamic range in post.

July 16, 2014 at 5:39PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Film Scientist

you can rig it out to be perfect for handheld work. it is light years ahead of that ancient camcorder you're using

auto exposure and focus is available on active M43 lenses (which are very good and very cheap). it also has focus peaking. And it can be set to record 10 bit 422 prores with a 709 lut pre-applied, so you can drop the files straight into your NLE and they will look great. tweaking them slightly will make it even better

July 16, 2014 at 5:41PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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john jeffries

You mentioned AF. I'm keen to know how good the AF performs on the new firmware 1.8 for run-and-gun shooting? Please share your experience. Thank you!

July 16, 2014 at 5:50PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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kai

i think it depends on the lens.
I had a shoot the other day that had a fast turnaround time and we were running around on venice beach shooting street interviews, and I really didnt have time to focus so I used the AF a lot. It got the job done.
My 14mm 2.5 (the only one I have that is electronic, the rest of the lenses I use are cine style) is fairly slow at AF but its functional. I imagine the higher end lenses (olympus 12mm 2.0 or panasonic 12-35, etc) are faster.

July 16, 2014 at 9:28PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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john jeffries

This camera is completely unusable by an amateur. You will end up with terrible over exposed out of focus images. In the hands of a pro/semi pro I think it has to be in the running for most innovative camera ever. Amazing film like image in a tiny package.

July 16, 2014 at 5:44PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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mobiledivide

It has zebras and focus peaking to avoid overexposure and out of focus shots. Have you ever used one?

July 16, 2014 at 6:47PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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NMA

zebra is very useful, but the peaking is not so as you may be confident to get at least 85% to 90% perfect focus images but quite hard to get 95% to 100% perfect focus image, especially with its really bad LCD screen.

July 17, 2014 at 6:20AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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kai

I shot recent project (music video of cavemen) 99% hand held on a diy shoulder rig. It need ssupport but can be done. Spent 3 batteries a day, but I was being cautious off turning the cam off everytime when not shooting. See the footage at vimeo.com/joelkalsi

August 2, 2014 at 5:15PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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So does this mean a new 4K model is close on the horizon?

July 16, 2014 at 5:20PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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grantly0711

Whaaaaaat? But I bought mine yesterday!!!!

Or at least this is what someone else is yelling on the other side of the planet.

July 16, 2014 at 5:45PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Edgar

get a refund... or ask for a second one.

July 16, 2014 at 8:17PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Alex

While not the same kind of camera, B&H just dropped the price of the Sony NEX FS-100U by $1,500 to $2,499. And B&H even throws in an adaptor to fit Canon lenses to it.

It doesn't shoot raw, but it's great in low light and has a super-35mm sensor. It doesn't take a lot of accessories to "kit it up."

July 16, 2014 at 6:36PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Rob

I replace mine when it got stolen with a Pocket. LOL

July 17, 2014 at 2:04PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Mr.Floppy

Has anyone used the Metabones adapter with the BMPCC and manual lenses like Rokinon Cine Lenses?

July 16, 2014 at 7:43PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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yes and yes. Looks beautiful. But the Rokis can be a pain in my butt sometimes, so im still on the fence whether or not i like them. But i love this little camera with the adapter.

July 16, 2014 at 8:19PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Alex

This comment section is highly laughable, to those on the lower-end of the 'Intelligence-Spectrum'; you're all a bunch of hacks. Go measure your dicks somewhere else, and find a better spot for you pissing contests.

July 16, 2014 at 8:39PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Interesting

I have this, using it with Metabones Nikon adapter and Sigma 18-35. Amazing camera, my next purchase is if they ever come out with 4k version of this.

July 16, 2014 at 9:25PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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vishnu

As an owner of a Pocket Cam since november I feel that a lot of people on here are like "awesome! Its only 500 dollars!" but the fact of the matter is that you need to seriously rig this camera up to really be able to use it. I paid 1000 for it, but I've probably spent another 2,000 just for a lens and a rig and battery and screen. I mean I can't say I don't totally love it, but I can't use it easily for videography work (how I make most of my money) because it takes time to get the image looking good and the file sizes are tremendous. To the people who don't know much about this awesome but seriously flawed camera, I suggest looking to reviews and forums.

Heres a list of problems I've encountered:
-Grid in the flares (fixed in the new firmware, but yikes)
-Can't really properly monitor audio without it being saved to something like an Atomos where you can see the levels that the camera is recording. Duel system is a must, but sometimes people don't want that.
-Camera doesn't always turn on when you first press the button. Screen sometimes flickers
-About a gig a minute for prores footage, RAW is more.
-Battery life is really frustrating.
-Color temp settings for Prores are too far apart, being able to dial in would be better.
-Very difficult to pull focus from the relatively lowres screen.

My suggestions:
-Get a rig.
-Don't get the camera without a Panasonic 12-35 2.8. The OIS basically allows it to be handheld and a moderately wide image
-You NEED a Variable ND filter.

-Look into the Anker Pro 2 battery solution. Its an external laptop battery, but with a simple adapter can charge the pocket for 20 hours...and its only about 100 bucks.

-A screen/recorder like the Atomos Blade (I only have a ninja 2 and the screen quality isnt great) is a life saver as you can get cheap hard drives and save ProRes HQ to them.

-If you plan on working with it professionally, get a cage. Both to protect it, and to make the camera look less tiny.

-Expose to the right when you can but don't let anything blow out.

-Read up on Resolve because you're not going to be using the camera to its fullest without it. Speedgrade doesn't really accept the Blackmagic to Rec709 lut without crashing in my experience.

Sorry that was so long, but I don't want anyone going into this camera from DSLRs and expecting it to be the same. Go for a GH4 if you're looking for video capabilities in a DSLR like package. The Pocket Cam really is a "Cinema Camera" and must be treated like one.

July 16, 2014 at 9:28PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Steve

Some great thoughts right there, thanks! NoFilmSchool really needs to adopt Disqus so that I can +1 you :)

July 16, 2014 at 11:37PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Ben

Thanks, Ben! It's the thought that counts haha

July 17, 2014 at 12:52AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Steve

Thank you for your comment.
Last night when I read about the Summer Sale I've ordered one. I consider the BMPCC as a step up in quality compared to my current camera (Sony NEX VG10, which I really like despite its shortcomings) and now I will get the chance to become familiar with a different workflow. Your remarks are useful for the latter, and I will look into the stuff you mentioned.

July 17, 2014 at 7:19AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Jérôme

For real! Nice Rundown man ;-) Kudos

July 18, 2014 at 1:00AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Z-Axis

Thanks Ben, for sharing your experience!

July 18, 2014 at 6:27AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Gerhard

Canon is discounting. Sony is discounting. OMD is discounting. BMD is discounting. A good sign that a bunch of new cameras are on their way.

July 16, 2014 at 10:53PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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DLD

I would've wish that most country are doing this price! As in Malaysia !!!

July 17, 2014 at 12:54AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Venzy

SHIT,, I was just about to put mine up for sale. I guess not anymore, wont get anything for it.

July 17, 2014 at 1:46AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Yeah Josh, that's true. You won't get anything for it now. It's pretty much a doorstop. Listen, I have an idea. Why not just send it to me and I'll take it off your hands. I mean, that workflow. That's too much trouble for you. You're far too busy.

July 17, 2014 at 2:09AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Derek

Hahaha...

July 17, 2014 at 12:51PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Stefan Antonescu

i wont buy it now. good thing is now the price is dropped so you can get a used one even cheaper in some months. i dont need the cam but the price/value is so good.

July 17, 2014 at 3:58AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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toni time

I have had one since November and just bought a second one due to the price drop. i have the speedbooster and 18-35mm, movcam cage and all the bits to make this work as my a cam. External battery means i never have to worry about power. SD cards are now £60 quid for the super fast sandisk 64gig. My second one will have an adapted 16-50mm so be more telephoto. Trying to grade dslr footage next to the bmpcc footage is not fun! Once you lean how to grade the bmpcc footage it really does look beautiful. I feel the dynamic range is more important than the resolution. As the online codecs for video improve the resolution will become less important as 1080 will be much better than it is now. These cams are super easy to shoot with focus peaking and zebras and simple menu system. Also with the speedbooster and native asa 800 the low light performance is awesome.

July 17, 2014 at 4:21AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Vortex

File size really isn't an issue anymore! With the newest firmware we get prores 422, 422 lt and 422 proxy. This is tremendous for aspiring filmmakers. Well done blackmagic design!

July 17, 2014 at 7:40AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Robert

Agreed! An approved 64GB SD card can now record 100 min of Prores 422 LT!! ... absolutely unbelievable month of July BMD is having. Almost enough for people to forgive them when the Ursa misses the July ship date ;)

Also, remember around NAB when the internet hordes descended on every article about Blackmagic screaming that the existing cameras were no longer being supported and that BMD didn't care about their customers? Where are those people now? Oh well, I for one am glad not to be reading their pathetic posts.

July 17, 2014 at 7:54AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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CoolHandLuque

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David Anthony

Do the GH4 and BMPCC use the same lens mount type, i.e. could I attach the Lumix 12-35 to both of them without adapter?

Also, is there an active adapter from EF to MFT out there? I know there is a speedbooster but that only seems to go on the BMPCC and not any other MFT camera.

Thanks!

July 17, 2014 at 9:32AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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MP

Yes and it will work on both.

Wasting money on canon lenses is a very bad idea for the future, invest instead in Nikon F lenses for maximal versatility.

Is what I have done with my m4/3 camera collection.

July 17, 2014 at 12:03PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Thanks!

I've got some canon glass already unfortunately but I'm not majorly invested yet. Would you choose Nikon F lenses over MFT lenses? I'm also thinking in terms of the ability to use the lenses on a FF body in future or who knows what's next...

July 17, 2014 at 12:13PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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MP

Nikon AI and AI-S manual lenses have full-frame coverage so you can use them on pretty much any size sensor up to full-frame. MFT lenses only cover MFT sensors.

July 17, 2014 at 12:21PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Pat

I think it is about hitting the right mix of Nikon F mount and native mount (whatever it is that your current camera body is, be it Panasonic, or Sony, or whatever).

Invest in Nikon F mount for the long term future, as you move from one camera body to another. And could change systems in the process.

But get a few native mount lenses to exploit the benefits the system might have (for instance Micro Four third lenses are all very very tiny and lightweight, and some have OIS).

I'm fine with buying a few APS-C sized lenses (such as the Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8, an UWA zoom which I purchased recently). Because they're often cheaper and smaller, and can go wider (such as that Tokina).

Plus Super 35mm (which is the same size as APS-C) has been the standard for filmmaking for a very very long time. And even if I did get a "full frame" camera (such as the Sony A7s), they've got options for shooting in APS-C too if I absolutely need to.

Going back to the BMPCC, two very popular lenses which are used on it that are both the same price is the Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 and the Panasonic 12-35mm f/2.8

Which is best? Up to you! Ideally get both!

The Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 has the benefit of being able to be on a focal reducer to have an event faster f-stop (plus you'll be able to use it on many other cameras in the future, other than just the Panasonic), while the Panasonic has OIS, AF, and is lighter.

Personally, I'm going to go a cheaper path....

My existing collection should have me very well covered, I've got a large collection of Nikon F mount glass, but these three will probably be my favorites:
Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8
Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8
Nikon 50mm f/1.8D

They'll be used together with an RJ Lens Turbo which I have:
http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/9086/rj-lens-turbo-m43-ada...
Is very well reviewed (nearly twenty pages of comments there!) and rather cheap (you can buy it via the link I just gave. Is how I got mine).

I'll probably buy a Panasonic 14mm f/2.5 pancake lens as well, for when I want to really make it a *pocket* camera.

July 22, 2014 at 11:27PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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So now that they're backordered everywhere, how long do you think it will take for them to fill all the orders?

July 17, 2014 at 11:08AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Pat

I am passing on this for now. I just bought a GH4. If i see someone selling theirs for even less then I might be tempted as for now my GH4 is working good. I am afraid the pocket isnt so suited for run and gun work as the GH4 is.

July 17, 2014 at 1:36PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Everyone looking to sell a BMPCC is just going to wait until the price goes back up.

July 17, 2014 at 2:40PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Pat

Which is not gonna happen pobablyl...
There will be a 4K enabled MII, same price though.
Yeah, total speculation, but NO way the price is gonna go up again.
Maybe if it was a 100$ cashback like Canon does it once in a while.
The BMC4K price drop was permanent too (although to be fair, it wasn`t a "summer promotion").

July 17, 2014 at 3:20PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Berlin

Second that, The price will probably never go up again.

July 17, 2014 at 3:40PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Their press release says pretty plainly that the price will be going back up end of August. If there is an MII, they're probably doing stock liquidation first and will sell the new model at $995, but again, Blackmagic themselves were explicit that this isn't permanent.

July 17, 2014 at 8:43PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Pat

Even if they announce a new one, with black magics history it probably wouldn't be out until who knows when..

Being a Canon shooter, if you ever shop for refurbished cameras or even new ones you'll notice that they often do price drops to sell a bunch of cameras and the prices go back up for a while.

July 18, 2014 at 12:51PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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They are not backordered quite everywhere.

Newegg.com still shows stock with a free 32gb sd card.

July 17, 2014 at 3:29PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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slatr

...and they've got 0 days returns/refunds. That's weird.

July 17, 2014 at 8:46PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Pat

So this basically pays for MetaBones' new Canon EF mount SpeedBooster for the BMPCC. *sold*

July 17, 2014 at 3:35PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Timothy McClanahan

I work in education and we purchased 6 of these. 4 had to be returned out of the box:

2 had hot pixels on sensor
1 had mysterious black smudge on sensor
1 had faulty lens mount, lens did not click into place and was out of focus, unusable.
80% failure!

We got 4 more and:
1 had same kind of faulty lens mount, unusable
2 did not offer RAW shooting in menu (this might be simple firmware update, but come on!)

I have not even been able to test whether there are hot pixels or not.

I think that while the camera has great potential, Black Magic needs to re-think their quality control. No wonder it's 50% off!

July 17, 2014 at 4:07PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Mark

Aside from the hot pixels (which go away over time), all of those "faults" are just user error

July 17, 2014 at 4:19PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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john jeffries

No user error here, I gaarohnteee it!

July 20, 2014 at 11:27PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Mark

RAW for the BMPCC was in the 1.8 firmware release, that won't be out of the box.

July 17, 2014 at 8:48PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Pat

I find the 'no wonder it's 50% off' argument a bit odd - I mean, if it's broke it goes back until you get one that works or it just goes back, I very much doubt they are banking on a bunch of people going 'awww its just a few pixels in my image I can live with that'

July 17, 2014 at 6:58PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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This is by far the best deal of the Century Wow... Already own a BMPCC and I love it, now I'm getting a second one as a "B" Cam. I think people should really learn the camera and craft before they talk negative about it that's all I'm saying. BlackMagic thank you & keep bringing great and Low cost products to the market.

July 17, 2014 at 8:32PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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I have a 70D that I love for the video autofocus, but I want to try out the BMPCC.

Since I have the rest of the essential video kit (L-glass, slider, tripods & fluid head, stabilizer, portable LEDs, and filters) I would like to know what my total cost of purchase would be for the BMPCC.

What will I need in addition to the camera?

I suspect:

- EF to M43 adapter;
- Batteries;
- Cards (my current class-10 ones with under 95mB/s wont do it);
- ? (what am I missing if any)

Also, would any of the ATOMOS products work with the BMPCC? I hope these could act as hustle-free storage and a flip-out screen.

Thanks in advance for your help!!!

July 17, 2014 at 9:26PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Firef1y

How fast are your cards? If you just want to do ProRes they may well be fast enough.

July 22, 2014 at 11:35PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Joe, could we please have an article on what maybe coming next from BM?It would he handy to know what is conning up after August before we buy this.

It could be that a full HD or 2.5k p50/60 version with the issues worked out is coming, maybe even 4k. ;). What new low energy low priced sensors their suppliers have, and deleted present sensors, might reveal what they might use next. As well as their processing chip suppliers.

I agree that the Panasonic GH4 is just too much of a camera too close to this, and now they have a 4k zd1000 lumix at $899. The 1080p30 spec looks old. The Panasonic has been performing very well, beyond expectations, with good sensor, and the Sony website are leaping ahead. I imagine even the 4k camera is feeling the pinch. I don't think there is not enough cinema pure sales to sustain everybody, and they have to address the GH4 and video camera competition

July 17, 2014 at 11:48PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Wayne Morellini

Their last major announcement was URSA at the NAB and it hasn't shipped yet. And until the next major announcement, let's see what URSA delivers.

July 18, 2014 at 12:00AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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DLD

Its not about, that. There is always somebody trying to shut down progress just so they can get their equipment faster. BM should have been all over these minor firmware usages from the beginning. Hire more people on a temporary contract to fill in the gaps Leaves a very bad taste, to have to wait so long for minor fixes so the privileged can get their newer cameras faster. I could have had two BM's by now.

Now, it is worth getting an idea what you might be missing out on this year to make a decision. Like those who just bought a camera, it is worth some notice of a big discount coming, and offer them a bonus in the meantime ($500 software bonus).

July 18, 2014 at 10:58AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Wayne Morellini

If you keep waiting for ten next big thing you're going to miss out on everything.

July 23, 2014 at 8:52PM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Joao

;)

Nope, just a minimum 50p spec for sports/action. For everybody else, it is useful to know where ever to buy this or to buy next in a few months. Don't moan if what you want is available in two months but you wanted to buy now on fancy rather than ask (and you have what has become an extra paper weight in your kit to get rid). Look, for a number of happy people 24p;25/30 seems enough, for some others they see the need.

I'd prefer 100, 200fps even a thousand at 4k or 8k 16+ stop in a handheld, you could do some great stuff with that, but 4Kp50 is enough for me (with 16 stop+ HDR). There is just a lack of will. Panasonic is shipping a 50mb/s 4k POV action camera (maybe it us a compromise for battery life over 80-100Mb/s). How come Panasonic doesn't have a 100 mb/s p50/60 4k mode, they have one for p30? If we back up, we see that 100mb/s p50 equates to two of the Panasonic action cameras, or a Nikon J1 with ssd port for 4k raw recording for $400. Surely there must be some Chinese or Indian manufacturer that would do a camera yo do this for recording to a powered external ssd drive. Does anybody know where the old Canon 720p pocket camera came from, HD1 I think? Looks like an Indian like design.

July 25, 2014 at 4:02AM, Edited September 4, 11:56AM

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Wayne Morellini

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